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    • 1trainer1
    • By 1trainer1 16th Mar 13, 10:26 AM
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    Oak Windows or Wood grain finish on Plastic
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:26 AM
    Oak Windows or Wood grain finish on Plastic 16th Mar 13 at 10:26 AM
    I am in the process of getting my full house double glazed and we are looking for a wooden effect on our windows as our property is an old property

    We are thinking of Oak window frames but have been told by quite a few people that they are very expensive and we can do a Wood grain finish on plastic double glazing to get the same effect.

    I was wondering if anyone has done on either of these and what their experience is
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  • pka
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:31 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:31 AM
    I personally can't stand wood effect on plastic, I think it looks carp. If you want it to look like oak, go for oak.
    • thebaldwindowfitter
    • By thebaldwindowfitter 16th Mar 13, 10:32 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:32 AM
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    please do not paint your frames buy oak upvc frames they dont cost that much more
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    • thebaldwindowfitter
    • By thebaldwindowfitter 16th Mar 13, 10:35 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:35 AM
    I personally can't stand wood effect on plastic, I think it looks carp. If you want it to look like oak, go for oak.
    Originally posted by pka
    why is it that this forum is now becoming a forum where people feel the need to put other peoples ideas down
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:38 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:38 AM
    why is it that this forum is now becoming a forum where people feel the need to put other peoples ideas down
    Originally posted by thebaldwindowfitter
    They are asking what other peoples experiences are. In my experience(opinion), wood effect PVC doesn't look very nice. I would rather just have plain PVC if i couldn't afford the proper Oak. Not putting their idea down, just offering my opinion
    • 1trainer1
    • By 1trainer1 16th Mar 13, 10:46 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:46 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:46 AM
    I have had 3 people come round so far to give me a quote on replacing windows, no doors as we want to keep the original doors.

    All have said to me oak would be an expensice job, we have got 10 windows that need to be replaced including a bay window which has 3 sides and is 4 windows in total

    Height of the windows varies from 1.80m upstairs to 2.20m downstairs (very big windows)

    none have come back to me with a price as of yet but they are getting back to me in the next few days with quotes but all of them said Oak would be an expensive job so I just got wondering
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:52 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 10:52 AM
    Ask the guys that are giving you quotes if there are any properties near by which they have fitted the Oak effect UPVC in. That way you can do a drive by and decide whether or not you like them or if you think the extra outlay for the actual Oak frames will be worth it
    • thebaldwindowfitter
    • By thebaldwindowfitter 16th Mar 13, 11:10 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 11:10 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 11:10 AM
    the op asks for the opinion on oak upvc or painting to look like oak not whether you think oak upvc looks crap which was your response
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    • 16th Mar 13, 11:17 AM
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    • 16th Mar 13, 11:17 AM
    the op asks for the opinion on oak upvc or painting to look like oak not whether you think oak upvc looks crap which was your response
    Originally posted by thebaldwindowfitter
    No I think the OP asked whether to get oak frames or upvc oak effect when they get all their windows changed to double glazed units. I think the oak would be the better option if they can afford it and this is what i meant by my original response
    • 1trainer1
    • By 1trainer1 16th Mar 13, 11:19 AM
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    Oops
    just realised myself that my question was worded wrong, I meant either OAK upvc windows or OAK windows

    I would definately not be painting the frames as that would in my opinion make it look cheap, I was thinking more of the physical oak frames would be a lot more expensive and would require a lot more upkeep due to the wood and the weather

    Thanks for all your replies
    • Yorkie1
    • By Yorkie1 16th Mar 13, 11:33 AM
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    uPVC windows will always require less maintenance than wood, and will almost invariably be quite a bit less money than wood.

    When I came to replace my original windows with DG ones, I wanted wood, but couldn't afford it and didn't want the hassle of maintaining them. Briefly considered aluminium ones to give the colour effect I wanted through painting, but eventually went back to the uPVC choice.

    I completely agree with the poster who suggested that you look at a property where the oak effect uPVC have been installed. I have seen some which look really cheap and nasty, and not really like wood at all. If you have paid a lot of money for windows, you want to be sure that they look like what you expected.
    • thebaldwindowfitter
    • By thebaldwindowfitter 16th Mar 13, 11:33 AM
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    No I think the OP asked whether to get oak frames or upvc oak effect when they get all their windows changed to double glazed units. I think the oak would be the better option if they can afford it and this is what i meant by my original response
    Originally posted by pka
    yes i did mis understand what the op was refering too but your initial response and your opinion i feel is unwarranted .
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    • murphydog999
    • By murphydog999 16th Mar 13, 11:55 AM
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    We are going though a similar process, however we have 34 windows to replace so it makes a hell-of-a difference to what we choose.

    I know it's slightly different to you, (but you may want to consider it) I've seen painted wood and foil-backed painted uPVC windows side by side in a showroom, and looks-wise you cannot tell the difference.

    A lot of the 'plastic' wood effect doesn't look right. I drove past an old property yesterday that had, quite clearly, changed their windows to oak effect, plus oak effect front door, and even with it being set well back off the road, you could tell they were plastic. It ruined the look of a lovely old building.

    Some companies products are better than others, you need to see samples in the flesh, in my opinion the lighter wood effect tends to look more artificial than darker wood colours.

    We would prefer timber but I really can't see the budget taking it, if you haven't looked at foil-backed painted uPVC, it might be worth investigating?

    Here's a couple of links
    http://www.glasstecwindows.co.uk/products/window/25-coloured-windows
    http://www.rehauhome.com/colourselector.aspx
  • pka
    why is it that this forum is now becoming a forum where people feel the need to put other peoples ideas down
    Originally posted by thebaldwindowfitter
    your initial response and your opinion i feel is unwarranted .
    Originally posted by thebaldwindowfitter
    A little bit hypocritical there don't you think?
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    • By thebaldwindowfitter 16th Mar 13, 12:22 PM
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    A little bit hypocritical there don't you think?
    Originally posted by pka
    Not at all , your opinion in the first instance could of been worded better ie instead of you saying that one of the options the op has as being crap im sure as an educated person you could use other words .After all you found a different way of giving your opinion in your second post
    Last edited by thebaldwindowfitter; 16-03-2013 at 12:25 PM.
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  • ValHaller
    Not at all , your opinion in the first instance could of been worded better ie instead of you saying that one of the options the op has as being crap im sure as an educated person you could use other words .After all you found a different way of giving your opinion in your second post
    Originally posted by thebaldwindowfitter
    I don't think that the way in which the opinion was expressed is all that important.

    It is a valid opinion too. If I was buying a house, then wood effect uPVC would put me off big time. I think it looks naff, really naff. Now, if it has an effect on the possible resale of the property, it is right to mention it so that OP can take it into account in making their decision.

    Sorry to say, I think you doth protest too much. Is it the case that you have an interest in selling wood effect uPVC?
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
    • LEJC
    • By LEJC 16th Mar 13, 1:18 PM
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    Again I come into the thread having almost finished a total refurb on a house....
    I guess you have a total budget for all your work and what you need to do is fit something in keeping with that budget...
    Yes I agree with the others who say wood will be expensive and you say that tradesmen have also indicated this too ...but have you actually had anyone give you a price?
    I ask this because there is a diiference in peoples expectation of what is expensive and to be honest if you value the inclusion of solid wood windows then it could turn out to be the better..although more expensive option

    What you also need to make sure that doesnt happen is that your budget runs away with you...its very easy to upgrade things in the beginning of the project but you need to make sure that you have sufficient funding to finish everything to a comparable standard...again its lovely to have expensive windows but you also need to consider the price of a kitchen or bathroom etc.

    I would have loved to install wooden double glazed sash windows in our property but the reality of it was that it would have been at the expense of the kitchen...which is something we use on a more regular basis than the casings of the windows...

    just to put things in perspective for you we are renovating a 2 bed property completely and we are not far off finishing...its taken a year and we have had to do a little more work ourselves than we would have liked in order to stay on budget...but we should bring it all in at around 40k
    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 16th Mar 13, 6:38 PM
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    I think you got this 1 very wrong BWF, we all misread from time to time, best action is admit it and regain some credibility, made enough upcocks myself to know this.


    Oak window frames??, they are not, ask anyone who lives in a conservation area or in a listed building.

    The other issue is, even if you went with an oak window, is that after a year or so it takes on a silver colour that looks nothing like you mat think oak should look like.
    Oak isn't finished, by which I mean it ages naturally and loses it's golden brown colour, if you want it to look like new oak, then it has to be plastic.

    Edited to say;

    I absolutely love solid oak, have it everywhere internally, PVCu oak windows?, nah, not for me, they simply look artificial.

    Each to his/her own OP, you make your own decision.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.

    Always expect the unexpectedand then you won't be dissapointed
    • thebaldwindowfitter
    • By thebaldwindowfitter 18th Mar 13, 7:33 PM
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    I don't think that the way in which the opinion was expressed is all that important.

    It is a valid opinion too. If I was buying a house, then wood effect uPVC would put me off big time. I think it looks naff, really naff. Now, if it has an effect on the possible resale of the property, it is right to mention it so that OP can take it into account in making their decision.

    Sorry to say, I think you doth protest too much. Is it the case that you have an interest in selling wood effect uPVC?
    Originally posted by ValHaller
    i think youll find if you read my posts you will find i havent said to go for either what i have objected to is somebody calling one of the ops choice crap and i dont see the need you yourself give a similiar opinion naff you use though you have liked the posters comment because you agree with there view this is a public forum where people are asking opinions not to be bullied into having something because certain people call there second choice .I only buy a certain german brand of car but am not that blinkered that i cannot see the good in others
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    • thebaldwindowfitter
    • By thebaldwindowfitter 18th Mar 13, 7:38 PM
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    I think you got this 1 very wrong BWF, we all misread from time to time, best action is admit it and regain some credibility, made enough upcocks myself to know this.


    Oak window frames??, they are not, ask anyone who lives in a conservation area or in a listed building.

    The other issue is, even if you went with an oak window, is that after a year or so it takes on a silver colour that looks nothing like you mat think oak should look like.
    Oak isn't finished, by which I mean it ages naturally and loses it's golden brown colour, if you want it to look like new oak, then it has to be plastic.

    Edited to say;

    I absolutely love solid oak, have it everywhere internally, PVCu oak windows?, nah, not for me, they simply look artificial.

    Each to his/her own OP, you make your own decision.
    Originally posted by cyclonebri1
    i admitted i got the ops original post wrong on post 12 .what i dont agree to is to many people on here trying to bully people with there opinions
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