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    • Choccyholic
    • By Choccyholic 9th May 07, 12:18 PM
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    • #2
    • 9th May 07, 12:18 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 12:18 PM
    He should give the pharmacy his custom if he wants their advice. He doesn't have to buy all his pharmacitucals from there though.
    Nuts just take up space where chocolate ought to be.
  • Tam Lin
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    • 9th May 07, 12:21 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 12:21 PM
    If he wants it to stay open to give him advice, then he ought to do what he can within the constraints of his budget to help support it.
    Nelly's other Mr. Hyde
  • Drama_Queen
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    • 9th May 07, 1:10 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 1:10 PM
    My husband would go to the supermarket, because he's careful with money - and that's why he has thousands in the bank and I only just survive until payday. Victor should take a leaf from my hubby's book!
    • Alias_Omega
    • By Alias_Omega 9th May 07, 1:31 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 1:31 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 1:31 PM
    This is one of them things that is going on as we speak, i had this out with a butcher in grimsby who i went in to the shop to ask if he had any bones for the dog. We were not from that end of the town, but he sure did give us a lecture about shopping for our meat at asda, when he could apparently provide a better choice, and quality.

    We did not tell him that we dont really buy fresh meat apart from bacon, for which we rarely buy anyway. You could say the family is turning vegiterian (spelling.?).

    With all the large supermarkets moving into every little city / town, and with the expansion of the tesco extra stores, the little independant shop will be out priced by the firm who buys products in the millions, compared to the local shop owner who purchases stock in the 50-60's per month.

    Tbh, the pharmacist at the superstore would have probably worked in a local chemist in the past, therefore you probably would find they would be educated to the same level, just one may have more hands on experience than the other.

    My option would be to try the large supermarket pharmacist, see what they come up with. He does not have to buy, but can take the information. Chances are he probably shops there already, just a 2 min chat other the counter and you could save you a few 1p's.

    • icecoolbabe
    • By icecoolbabe 9th May 07, 2:20 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 2:20 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 2:20 PM
    By the time he gets to the supermarket he would have (presumably) had to have spent some money in actually getting there?

    If he gets there for free - i.e on the bus using a free bus pass - there is still cost to the enviroment in terms of carbon output to consider?

    If he walks - the only cost to him will be his time.

    On all of the above - using the local pharmacy wins - providing they stock what he needs.

    As an aside - I went to my local post office to buy car tax rather than sit indoors and conveniently buy it online - only to find they dont do car tax!

    So much for supporting my village post office.
    If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
  • siber
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    • 9th May 07, 3:23 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 3:23 PM
    If he's getting specialist drugs on the NHS, it doesn't matter. Use the local pharmacy. If Victor's after generic non-prescription drugs, eg. Paracetamol, Asprin, etc, and really tight for cash, he should use the cheaper supermarket. If he normally buys branded drugs, he could continue to use the pharmacist, but buy generic drugs at the price of the brands in the supermarket, thus keeping his business with the pharmacist, but his budget within limits. Especially as the local pharmacist is likely to have more time to advise which generic and branded drugs are equivelent!
  • jinky67
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    • 9th May 07, 4:10 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 4:10 PM
    If Victor lives in Scotland he could sign up for the NHS minor ailment scheme, then he wouldn't have to pay anyway.
    Once a Flylady, always a Flylady
    • sexyboy
    • By sexyboy 9th May 07, 5:34 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 5:34 PM
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    • 9th May 07, 5:34 PM
    i make a point of always buying my loaf and milk in my local shop, even though i can buy them cheaper in the supermarket. i like my local shop i don't mind paying a premium to ensure its survival.

    the world will be a poorer place if supermarkets are allowed to dominate the landscape
  • racey2racey
    Victor should support his local Pharmacy as it offers him invaluable advice. What will Victor do when he is unable to drive to the supermarket in a few years time? Common quote "Use it or Lose it"
    • tallgirld
    • By tallgirld 9th May 07, 6:44 PM
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    The local pharmacist should drop his prices then he might get more punters!!!!
  • hulltrucker
    I suffer from exactly thsi dilema - I have a local pharmacy and a Sainsburys both within a similar distance of where I live. I like to support the pharmacy as they are great for advice so what I do is get all of my prescriptions from the pharmacy (as I don't pay for them, but I assume they get money from the NHS for them) and use sainsburys for generic medicines like paracetamol
  • RedStar
    Personally, I'd use the small local pharmacy and pay a bit more. Even if it was easy enough for me to get to the supermarket, I'd want the pharmacy to stay open for local people who might struggle to get all the way to the supermarket and have to use small local stores. Plus, pharmacists in local shops are the unsung heroes of our healthcare system. They can usually give excellent advice about minor ailments and recommend a course of action or appropriate treatment.

    Similarly, I always buy fresh fish from the fishmonger's stall at my local food market, even though it's more expensive than the supermarket. The guys who run the stall really know their stuff, are passionate about what they do and can give all sorts of advice and recipe tips that you wouldn't get from some spotty youth working in Asda. Plus, they will source more unusual produce for you.

    No doubt there are people reading this who are saving more money than me but I'd rather be a bit skint and support small local businesses when I can.
  • moneysaving pharmacist
    I am assuming the supermarket has a pharmacy on the premises. If it doesn't then definitely use the local pharmacy - you won't get any advice from the checkout girls. And just because a medicine can be purchased from a supermarket or wilkinsons doesn't mean it's 100% safe. Especially not for elderly patients on multiple medicines - these patients need expert advice.

    Cost is not the only issue to consider here. The quality of advice should be the same from both pharmacists, however the local pharmacist obviously knows Victor well which is a great benefit. It is, however, difficult to give advice without knowing a person's full medication history. The independent pharmacy is obviously very quiet if it is threatened with closure. The pharmacist there would therefore have more time to spend speaking to Victor.

    Independent pharmacies are more likely to offer services to help vulnerable people. Does the supermarket pharmacy offer, for example, a delivery service, a NOMAD/dosette box service, free emergency hormonal contraception or supervised methadone consumption? And what about those people who are less mobile and can't get to the supermarket pharmacy?

    Pharmacies are often important social hubs for the whole community. The staff who work there often live in the area and know the patients well. A pharmacy closing can have the same social and economic effects as a post office closing.

    A final point: my advice is free of charge and I am available without appointment. I do not mind giving advice to people who are not buying products or getting prescriptions dispensed. In fact I quite often refuse to sell products when it is not appropriate and send people off to their GPs. However, if you live locally and regularly seek advice but don't purchase anything or bring your prescriptions to me I will get a bit irritated.

    Disclaimer: I work in a pharmacy that is part of an independent group (80 pharmacies). I have also worked for Boots. I know which one I prefer, and which one I consider lets me give the best service to my patients.
    Last edited by moneysaving pharmacist; 09-05-2007 at 7:35 PM.
  • moneysaving pharmacist
    I suffer from exactly thsi dilema - I have a local pharmacy and a Sainsburys both within a similar distance of where I live. I like to support the pharmacy as they are great for advice so what I do is get all of my prescriptions from the pharmacy (as I don't pay for them, but I assume they get money from the NHS for them) and use sainsburys for generic medicines like paracetamol
    Originally posted by hulltrucker
    Yes, pharmacies get paid by the NHS for dispensing NHS prescriptions. In simple terms, we get paid a set price for the drug (and if we can get from a wholesaler for less than the tariff price then great), and in addition we get paid fees that come to around 1 per drug (a dispensing fee, a DDA payment, a container fee and practice allowances). The average cost per drug on a prescription is around 10. The prescription charge of 6.85 bears no relation to the cost of the drug - it is the same whether you have a prescription for 1.50 worth of bendroflumethizide or for 1500 worth of Glivec. The charges collected are kept by the pharmacy, but they are deducted from the payment made by the NHS.

    Although NHS prescriptions account for the vast majority of pharmacy turnover, the profit margins are higher on over the counter medicines - but is anyone surprised?
    • gibby
    • By gibby 9th May 07, 7:48 PM
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    its a big question

    our local chemists is part of a bigger chain so I see no difference to using it or the supermarket

    we have found we can get nicer products at the supermarket
    i.e. - medicines without artificial sweeteners, e numbers, gelatine & other nasties
    but our local chemists had limited medicines that were unsuitable for vegetarians, vegans, buddhists, muslisms, hindus etc

    never take advice from broke or unsuccessful people

    Jim Rohn
  • Liney
    I think he should shop local if he likes it best, its nice for people to have someone to chat to and you tend to get to know local shopkeepers and staff I can honestly say I don't know anyone from the supermarket but since I tried not going so often I now know my local corner shop owner, deli owner, newsagent and milkman - much nicer for a community I think.
    Remember its nice to be nice and its good to share!

    Those that mind don't matter, and those that matter don't mind!

    Before printing, think about the environment!
  • heather38
    i work in a tesco pharmacy and have previously worked in an independant pharmacy. both have merits.
    the independant was great for locality and also knowing patients and their medical history but it was very busy and often we didn't have time to chat to people for long plus we had fewer staff on duty per shift
    the tesco pharmacy has more staff which means that we have more time to talk to patients and our store has built up a good reputation and i am on first name terms with many customers. but many people have the perception that it isn't a real chemist and that they are taking advice of a checkout girl even though i have done the same training (if not more) than the same person working in an independant pharmacy.
    i would take prescriptions to a local chemist and buy medicine from the supermarket, then he has the best of both worlds.

    • Middlestitch
    • By Middlestitch 9th May 07, 10:58 PM
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    Buy some stuff from the local pharmacist (presumably they have other products for sale) if you want their advice!
  • fififofum
    Personally I dont find this to be the case, my 3 local pharmacies compete with each other on price and always have a much larger stock of items than Sainsburys, who doesnt have a pharmacist. Support local businesses, when the Supermarkets have taken over there will be no going back - look at most large high streets now, they all look the same.
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