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    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 29th Oct 12, 10:28 PM
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    • 29th Oct 12, 10:28 PM
    Welcome! Many people don't recommend training with pads at all, just taking the puppy out every hour which is much more MSE. It's worth running an advanced search, some of the regulars here know loads about training and have written some really long helpful posts.

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    • krlyr
    • By krlyr 29th Oct 12, 10:33 PM
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    • 29th Oct 12, 10:33 PM
    Use incontinence bed/chair pads designed for humans instead. Very similar, a lot cheaper, and often available in bigger sizes if needed.
    http://www.incontinencechoice.co.uk/

    However, I think puppy training pads send mixed messages to puppies. I had a lot of success simply giving the puppy plenty of opportunities to go outside. This meant toilet breaks every 2 hours, even through the night, but it doesn't take long before you can stretch this to 3, 4, 5, etc. hours and IMO is much more effective than letting a dog pee indoors on a pad then expecting it to suddenly realise it should only be toileting outdoors.
  • Frugal 5 years
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    • 29th Oct 12, 10:34 PM
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    • 29th Oct 12, 10:34 PM
    Oh right . Im a first time dog owner and was told by a neighbour that i wasnt to take my dog out for loo breaks untill he has his injections and to stick to puppy pads. My dog starts his puppy package at the vets tomorrow so i wonder if they can advise me further

    thanks for the reply
    • krlyr
    • By krlyr 29th Oct 12, 10:36 PM
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    • 29th Oct 12, 10:36 PM
    You'll be fine to take him out into your own garden, it's public spaces that other (possibly unvaccinated) dogs have had access to that presents a small risk.
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 29th Oct 12, 11:12 PM
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    • 29th Oct 12, 11:12 PM
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    • 29th Oct 12, 11:12 PM
    Oh right . Im a first time dog owner and was told by a neighbour that i wasnt to take my dog out for loo breaks untill he has his injections and to stick to puppy pads. My dog starts his puppy package at the vets tomorrow so i wonder if they can advise me further

    thanks for the reply
    Originally posted by Frugal 5 years
    As long as you have a fenced in garden which isnt shared you are fine to take your pup out into it

    Even without that, id not use pads.I toilet trained a pup when I lived in a first floor flat with a shared open garden and managed just fine on papers. Soon as he was free to go out, I took a week off work and took him out everytime he looked like he needed to go - was clean within a week

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    • 29th Oct 12, 11:23 PM
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    We didn't bother with the training pads either. If you use them you are training the dog to go inside, then you have to start all over again training the puppy that it's outside it's meant to go. It just confuses the puppy in my opinion.

    Save the expense of buying the pads and the hassle and start to toilet outside is what I would do personally.

    We have an enclosed garden and our puppy was allowed out there from the first day we brought him home and he was fully toilet trained by 11 weeks. Though it will mean taking the puppy outside very regular to start off with.

    Our vets was pleased that we weren't bothering with the pad route with toilet training as she never recommends using them to anyone.
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    • con1888
    • By con1888 30th Oct 12, 11:38 PM
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    Another vote for the outdoors method, we have the odd accident but at 16 weeks he is pretty much trained.

    Have heard from some using the pads that once trained to go on the pad you then need to retrain to go outside so it can take longer than the outdoor method.

    Good luck with your puppy <3
    • lisawood78
    • By lisawood78 31st Oct 12, 10:50 AM
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    The only thing that ever happened when we tried (failed) to use pads was they got thrown about and chewed up.
    As others have said, out into the garden very regularly, after waking, playing, eating, drinking and ever hour or so just on principle, make sure pup 'performs' and then back inside with loads of praise.
    Set an alarm throughout the night just to quickly pop pup outside, no playing or fuss just out, toilet, back to bed. Yes it is very tiring for you but much better than the aftermath of cleaning each morning and it will speed things up so much.
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    • trolleyrun
    • By trolleyrun 31st Oct 12, 6:55 PM
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    My dog was semi toilet trained when I got her, but I never considered using pads. What I did do though, was teach her the word "wee wee". It works a treat, especially in the morning. I tell her "have a wee wee" and she does - it's like magic I've had her 5 weeks now, and the accidents are few and far between. Good luck!
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