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    JMurph
    Outdoor Pizza Oven!
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    • 22nd May 12, 9:21 PM
    Outdoor Pizza Oven! 22nd May 12 at 9:21 PM
    Here's one for you

    Anyone ever built or even seen a domestic outdoor pizza oven? I saw one on a Jamie Oliver show a while back and has been working in my head for a bit, have found a few "how to" videos online and a couple of websites devoted to them (just to prove there is a site for EVERYTHING!) but haven't quite made my mind up about it.

    I'd love to hear if anyone has any experiences of such a thing. I do make home made pizza, and think cooked outdoor in a wood-fired oven would be amazing!

    Thanks in advance
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  • Pugwash69
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    • 22nd May 12, 9:27 PM
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    • 22nd May 12, 9:27 PM
    Well just check out the Spanish I think they call them paellaro and are very popular.
  • SUESMITH
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    • 22nd May 12, 10:31 PM
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    • 22nd May 12, 10:31 PM
    there are a few articles about this on the guardian website
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/gallery/2011/may/04/building-cob-pizza-oven-pictures?INTCMP=SRCH
    'We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time
    • Biggles
    • By Biggles 23rd May 12, 8:39 AM
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    Biggles
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    • 23rd May 12, 8:39 AM
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    • 23rd May 12, 8:39 AM
    Loads come up if you just google the phrase.
  • JMurph
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    • 23rd May 12, 10:06 AM
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    • 23rd May 12, 10:06 AM
    Thanks, I tried paellaro but didn't get anywhere other than a collection of spices for paella! I'll have a look on guardian link, thanks Sue. Biggles, thanks, I did google and found a fair few sites, but I was asking on here to hear if anyone had first hand experience. I've read many websites saying particular diy jobs are easy, but that turn out to be easy if you have a City and Guilds in it, but for the average joe (like me) isn't actually so easy!
    • aylesby
    • By aylesby 23rd May 12, 10:33 AM
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    • 23rd May 12, 10:33 AM
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    • 23rd May 12, 10:33 AM
    There is a metal freestanding one sold out of germany on ebay. Search on charcoal BBQ smoker if the link fails.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Smoker-BBQ-Charcoal-Barbecue-Pizza-Oven-NEW-/200763683475?pt=UK_Home_Garden_BBQ_s_Accessories_L E&hash=item2ebe72b293
    • Trumpeter
    • By Trumpeter 23rd May 12, 10:56 AM
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    Trumpeter
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    • 23rd May 12, 10:56 AM
    UK Pizza Oven Forum
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    • 23rd May 12, 10:56 AM
    You need to be looking here http://ukwoodfiredovenforum.proboards.com/ Very helpful bunch of guys. Picked up no end of good advice. You can either buy a kit or build from scratch. If you look through some of the pics, there's everything from the most "rustic" to some that look like designer built bungalows. Another good site is http://www.traditionaloven.com/ run by an Australian guy called Rado & again it's full of good ideas & advice.
  • JMurph
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    • 23rd May 12, 12:45 PM
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    • 23rd May 12, 12:45 PM
    Thank you all. Trumpeter, have you built one? Use it much? Pizzas amazing?!
  • Avoriaz
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    • 23rd May 12, 1:37 PM
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    • 23rd May 12, 1:37 PM
    Would tin foil and a normal kettle style BBQ not suffice?

    Put tin foil or a metal plate under the pizza to prevent burning and place it on the grill of a BBQ with a lid.

    You could add woodchips to the charcoal if necessary.

    You can buy round kettle BBQs very cheaply.


    PS: I'm feeling hungry now and it is ages until dinner time.
    • pinkteapot
    • By pinkteapot 23rd May 12, 1:50 PM
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    pinkteapot
    I'd also recommend using a decent BBQ. I would imagine it would get far more use (unless your household eats pizza for dinner unusually often!).

    We have a Weber charcoal BBQ and it's the dogs proverbials. They make a pizza stone for it:

    http://www.weberbbq.co.uk/accessories/all-round-accessories/original-round-pizza-stone/

    For baking pizza I'd go for a BBQ that comes with a lid. The heat in ours is incredible compared to a traditional 'open' BBQ (lots of burnt sausages and burgers before we realised that!). I think you'd need that heat for baking.
  • JMurph
    We are pretty mad for pizza, plus I'm just getting an old oil tank removed, leaving a pretty sturdy base that I think would be ideal for a pizza oven. I don't think a barbeque would get up to the temperatures required for proper wood-fired oven pizzas, not impart the same flavour, but I'd need a taste test to confirm!
    • aarchk
    • By aarchk 23rd May 12, 6:54 PM
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    aarchk
    My in laws have one. It was built for them by some friends of theirs. Uses lots of wood and takes a while to fire up but the pizzas cook very quickly. They constructed it using instructions on the internet.
    • Trumpeter
    • By Trumpeter 23rd May 12, 7:24 PM
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    Trumpeter
    JMurph, Yes, I built one last year, It hasn't had as much use as I had hoped but that's mainly down to the weather & work commitments. And yes, the pizzas are amazing. As you surmised, a barbie doesn't really get up to the right temperatures & it also doesn't give the all round heat that an oven does. With regards to the "must like pizzas" bit, you can cook anything in it that you can in a normal oven. It just takes a bit of planning. When you get used to firing it right you can do steaks, casseroles, roast chickens even bread (mind you, a home built tandoor for nann bread & tandori chicken might be the next project). I'll drop you a PM & show you some photos from the build. In my (humble) opinion, it's sort of in the middle between the really rough builds & the ultra professional jobs. Before I started, I'd never laid a brick in my life so I don't think it's turned out too badly.
    Last edited by Trumpeter; 23-05-2012 at 7:35 PM.
  • Avoriaz
    .. As you surmised, a barbie doesn't really get up to the right temperatures & it also doesn't give the all round heat that an oven does.
    Originally posted by Trumpeter
    What temperature is required for the best Pizzas?

    My gas fired BBQ has a lid and gets very hot on maximum.

    The heat is also presumably "all round" with the lid closed as it is rising from the base and circulating with convection.

    Maybe I will try cooking a pizza in it and report back on the results.
    • Trumpeter
    • By Trumpeter 24th May 12, 10:35 AM
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    Trumpeter
    What temperature is required for the best Pizzas?

    My gas fired BBQ has a lid and gets very hot on maximum.

    The heat is also presumably "all round" with the lid closed as it is rising from the base and circulating with convection.

    Maybe I will try cooking a pizza in it and report back on the results.
    Originally posted by Avoriaz
    Hi Avoriaz, I wasn't completely dismissing the barbeque idea, just suggesting that if the OP wanted a pizza oven, then the "specialist" item would be best. I fire mine to between 450 - 500 C for pizza (checked against an IR thermometer from China via Ebay!) The all round heat bit refers to the fact that the fire is at the back of the oven & heats the brickwork of the floor & the dome by convection. Unlike a barbie, there is no heat directly from underneath so the base does not burn before the toppings are heated through. Having said that, we find that the best results come when using smaller amounts of toppings than you would usually find on a commercial pizza. Also, after you've finished with pizzas, you can cook many other things as the ovens cools. If you get the insulation right, you can cook a full leg of lamb overnight or cook fresh bread next morning. If the OP (or anyone else who's considering building) has any doubts as to whether or not it's worth doing, I would suggest that they see if they can find a pizza restaurant that uses a wood fired oven &, as they say, Taste the Difference.
    • 1jim
    • By 1jim 24th May 12, 3:21 PM
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    1jim
    We cook pizza on a weber BBQ , air vents open fully top and bottom, lots of charcoal, air bricks on the rack, pizza cooked directly on the air bricks, mmmm.

    There was a YouTube clip somewhere..... Will see if I can find it


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVeQBHludGs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
    Complete with comedy voice :-)
    Last edited by 1jim; 24-05-2012 at 3:25 PM.
  • JMurph
    Right, oil tank has been removed so now I've three wee supports and a gap in the hedge ready for some pizza oven action!

    The supports are a bit low though, so I'm going to have to build them up a bit. If I get round to it, I'll post pics as I go, though I hope you're patient - I'm not known for getting these sorts of projects done quickly!
  • JMurph
    OK, I'm no quantity surveyor, but so far I've worked out I need "some" clay or "plenty" of refractive cement in order to adequately insulate my oven. Or failing that some other sort of insultating material. Any ideas what's best, and where I could procure them? I think if I went to B7Q I'd probably get, but I'd also have to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.

    Many thanks
    • aarchk
    • By aarchk 31st May 12, 3:36 PM
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    aarchk
    My in laws oven is built of firebricks with concrete over then standard bricks. There is an open area below for storing wood. I'm afraid I didnt pay much attention during the construction. The firebricks were ordered online from a specialist company.

    Glad you didnt go for the BBQ idea. Im sure it cooks fine on a gas BBQ but its more of an experience with a pizza oven, plus makes a handy bomb shelter. We have just stocked the in laws up with wood ready for the first pizza party of the year (its a late start this year due to family illness). We each make our own and put toppings on, the kids love it.
    • pldd4
    • By pldd4 2nd Jan 13, 5:29 PM
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    pldd4
    I've used a Weber Pizza Stone quite a few times, it always gives good results. I'm hoping to invest in a Weber Pizza Oven when they come out and i save up!
    From BBQs 2u www. bbqs2u .co.uk/284-weber-charcoal-pizza-oven-6520.html
    Last edited by pldd4; 25-04-2013 at 2:03 PM.
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