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    flashy01
    Beware - People's Postcode Lottery!
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    • 15th Feb 12, 6:05 PM
    Beware - People's Postcode Lottery! 15th Feb 12 at 6:05 PM
    Since subscribing to this in summer of last year, I have won the princely sum of 4 (twice winning 2). However, I have yet to ever receive either payment which I was told by e-mail would be paid into my bank within 28 days(the sub is paid by direct debit).

    I finally phoned today to ask what was going on and was told that this happens often and that they need bank account details to pay the cash in. I take it from this, the only way you're likely to receive any winnings is if they are presented in the form of a gigantic novelty cheque. I know it only amounts to 4, but what if it was two wins of 100?

    I urge anyone who subscribes to PPL, to please ensure that they are actually receiving the payments for any money they win as I feel this is a somewhat fraudulent practice. I'm awaiting an e-mail from them as I asked them to contact me to provide a full explanation before I cancel my subscription.
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    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 3rd Apr 18, 12:08 PM
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    ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    This thread makes me despair.

    Of course some people win, and of course the vast majority of people don't. That's the point.

    Lots of people give them money and they give some of it back to a few of those people. That's it. The norm is to lose. If the norm wasn't to lose, there wouldn't be a business.

    They are not cheating. It is not worth the risk. They would be caught, and when your business is as simple as this there is no point in cheating.
    • maninthestreet
    • By maninthestreet 3rd Apr 18, 9:35 PM
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    maninthestreet
    I won 20 last week. I'm still waiting for the 'big one'...
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
    • MollyR
    • By MollyR 5th Apr 18, 10:30 AM
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    MollyR
    You might also like to check out the freepostcodelottery.com
    No charge for this lottery, this clever lad has got his advertisers to pay for the monetary prizes.
    Originally posted by fridae
    And now, after he has, over the course of seven years or so, paid out thousands of pounds to people who have never had to pay him a penny for a ticket, he is apparently being bullied and threatened by the People's Postcode Lottery who say that he is trying to pass himself off as them! He has even offered to change the name from Free Postcode Lottery to something different, but they won't accept that - they still want him put out of business. To my mind, that just shows that the PPL are most certainly not in it for anything other than their own profit!
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 5th Apr 18, 12:50 PM
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    ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    To my mind, that just shows that the PPL are most certainly not in it for anything other than their own profit!
    Originally posted by MollyR
    Well of course they are not. What else would they be in it for? What do you think Camelot are in the lottery business for?
    • Oopsiedaisy
    • By Oopsiedaisy 16th Apr 18, 6:20 AM
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    Proper dodgy
    There are about 17million postcodes in the UK. The postcode lottery says that your chance of winning is approx 1 in 162,000. ...... Eh?? I think some clarification is required to explain how the odds have been slashed from 17million to 1, down to a meagre 0.16million to 1...... Perhaps they're not referring to the jackpot, but saying that the chances of getting even the lowest of prizes is 1 in 162,000?? In which case, it's the crappiest lottery ever
    • badmemory
    • By badmemory 16th Apr 18, 10:32 AM
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    They also of course suing the Free Postcode Lottery. They seem to think that people can mistake the word people for the word free. So not just crappy - nasty big bully boy.
    • maninthestreet
    • By maninthestreet 16th Apr 18, 10:51 PM
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    maninthestreet
    There are about 17million postcodes in the UK. The postcode lottery says that your chance of winning is approx 1 in 162,000. ...... Eh?? I think some clarification is required to explain how the odds have been slashed from 17million to 1, down to a meagre 0.16million to 1...... Perhaps they're not referring to the jackpot, but saying that the chances of getting even the lowest of prizes is 1 in 162,000?? In which case, it's the crappiest lottery ever
    Originally posted by Oopsiedaisy
    Only postcodes where tickets have been bought are entered into the lottery draw.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
    • jonesMUFCforever
    • By jonesMUFCforever 18th Apr 18, 12:49 AM
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    jonesMUFCforever
    They also of course suing the Free Postcode Lottery. They seem to think that people can mistake the word people for the word free. So not just crappy - nasty big bully boy.
    Originally posted by badmemory
    Do you know what makes me angry about this - they are using monies that ordinary punters pay them - so instead of concentrating on giving to good causes some of the money will go to fund this case.

    Well I have cancelled my D/D to them and sent them an email to say why. I have not had a reply.
    What goes around - comes around
    give lots and you will always receive lots
    • SnowTiger
    • By SnowTiger 18th Apr 18, 3:32 AM
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    Do you know what makes me angry about this - they are using monies that ordinary punters pay them - so instead of concentrating on giving to good causes some of the money will go to fund this case.

    Well I have cancelled my D/D to them and sent them an email to say why. I have not had a reply.
    Originally posted by jonesMUFCforever
    According to their 2016 annual report:

    Income: 229,884,000
    Prizes: 91,954,000 (40%)
    Operating costs (including profit): 71,581,000 (31.1%)
    Money to charity: 66,349,000 (28.9%)

    In comparison, 50% of the National Lottery's ticket price goes on prizes, with only 28% going to (so-called) good causes.

    Why don't you donate money directly to good causes?
    • ELTRICE
    • By ELTRICE 26th Apr 18, 5:45 PM
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    Distinctly clear
    I forget the exact numbers, but there are rules about costs associated with running a lottery, percentage of price outs and how much MUST be used for the associated charity.
    I'd need to look it up, but I think it about 40% must be used for the charity. About 40% in prizes and 20% for costs.
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 27th Apr 18, 10:13 AM
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    I forget the exact numbers, but there are rules about costs associated with running a lottery, percentage of price outs and how much MUST be used for the associated charity.
    I'd need to look it up, but I think it about 40% must be used for the charity. About 40% in prizes and 20% for costs.
    Originally posted by ELTRICE
    Well that is clearly wrong because it is about 25% for the National Lottery. The "Health Lottery" is about 20%. It's nowhere near 40%.
    • steviebuk
    • By steviebuk 20th Jun 18, 8:01 PM
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    What annoys me, and this is the same with the Gala Bingo advert, is they are exploiting the hope of the working class. Notice on the Postcode Lottery advert, everyone appears to be working class. And on the Gala Bingo advert, they have what looks like a handy man in the background looking all cheerful for being in the advert.


    That's what annoys me. Even if the odds are poor, even knowing it's a lottery and it's pot luck, that is what annoys me the most, is just the advert clearly attempting to exploit the working class.
    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 20th Jun 18, 8:51 PM
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    What annoys me, and this is the same with the Gala Bingo advert, is they are exploiting the hope of the working class. Notice on the Postcode Lottery advert, everyone appears to be working class. And on the Gala Bingo advert, they have what looks like a handy man in the background looking all cheerful for being in the advert.


    That's what annoys me. Even if the odds are poor, even knowing it's a lottery and it's pot luck, that is what annoys me the most, is just the advert clearly attempting to exploit the working class.
    Originally posted by steviebuk
    Isn't that aiming at a target market though, the same as any other business advert? I'm not saying it's right but all adverts are aimed at a market, being those funeral care plans showing only retired people not wanting to lumber their families with funeral debt when they shuffle off, or happy young carefree folk enjoying a bottle of coke. Advertising and marketing is always aimed at a specific audience to promote and encourage aspirations through products.
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    • steviebuk
    • By steviebuk 20th Jun 18, 11:23 PM
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    Isn't that aiming at a target market though, the same as any other business advert? I'm not saying it's right but all adverts are aimed at a market, being those funeral care plans showing only retired people not wanting to lumber their families with funeral debt when they shuffle off, or happy young carefree folk enjoying a bottle of coke. Advertising and marketing is always aimed at a specific audience to promote and encourage aspirations through products.
    Originally posted by kerri gt

    True but I think the fact they are essentially saying "Are you working class? Do you long for lots of money? Look at these working class people that played our game and won. This could be you. It probably won't be but we're not going to tell you that. And we're not going to tell you this is probably money you can't really afford to throw away. We're just going to make you believe you'll win. Because you're working class, we wrongly believe you are incapable of doing research because we believe in the sterotype that you are gullible and supersitious. We prey/exploit your dream of getting away from the poverty line".
    • Malthusian
    • By Malthusian 21st Jun 18, 11:44 AM
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    Malthusian
    If the People's Postcode Lottery are incorrect in their belief that the working class are incapable of working out that their lottery is a waste of money, then their adverts won't work, nobody will play their lottery and they'll shut down before too long. Problem solved.

    Why watch adverts if they annoy you? Mute them and read a book, or record and fast-forward.
    • Madbags
    • By Madbags 21st Jun 18, 4:37 PM
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    How can they be "working" class people in the Postcode Lottery adverts... they're always home to answer the door
    • steviebuk
    • By steviebuk 1st Jul 18, 6:07 PM
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    It's on more and more these days.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 1st Jul 18, 6:17 PM
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    Cornucopia
    How can they be "working" class people in the Postcode Lottery adverts... they're always home to answer the door
    Originally posted by Madbags
    Maybe they don't film the ones where no one's at home?
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    • PhylPho
    • By PhylPho 1st Jul 18, 7:27 PM
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    Nothing unusual about target marketing. We live in what was the Border ITV region and you'd be amazed (or not) at the number of national advertisers who don't bother with air-time oop here. This is because their media buyers, many of whom have traveled no further Watford, consider the North to be full of clog-clicking cobble-walkers. Upside of this is that we're spared, every Christmas, the kind of TV advertising dross which we're told is being debated by the brain-dead on social meeja elsewhere in the UK but of whose actual existence we oop here haven't a clue: the junk simply isn't on our screens. Aren't we the lucky ones though . . .
    • Beyond Repair
    • By Beyond Repair 16th Jul 18, 12:27 PM
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    Free Postcode Lottery
    And now, after he has, over the course of seven years or so, paid out thousands of pounds to people who have never had to pay him a penny for a ticket, he is apparently being bullied and threatened by the People's Postcode Lottery who say that he is trying to pass himself off as them! He has even offered to change the name from Free Postcode Lottery to something different, but they won't accept that - they still want him put out of business. To my mind, that just shows that the PPL are most certainly not in it for anything other than their own profit!
    Originally posted by MollyR
    Name now changed to Pick My Postcode (pickmypostcode dot com)
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