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    • applegrass
    • By applegrass 9th Jan 12, 10:41 AM
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    applegrass
    Alternatives to Microsoft Money/Quicken?
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    • 9th Jan 12, 10:41 AM
    Alternatives to Microsoft Money/Quicken? 9th Jan 12 at 10:41 AM
    For the last few years I've been doing my personal finance accounts in either Quicken or Microsoft Money. However, they're both starting to give up the ghost and since they're no longer being developed, I can't just get the latest version.

    So I'm looking for an alternative piece of software that lets me personally input data, and still download statements from UK banks to reconcile them.

    Got any recommendations?
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    • colsten
    • By colsten 16th May 17, 7:20 AM
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    colsten
    I use AceMoney, albeit on Windows, and love it. They do also have have a Mac version http://www.mechcad.net/products/acemoney/personal-finance-software-quicken-alternative.shtml
    • bandaj
    • By bandaj 23rd Jun 17, 4:16 PM
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    bandaj
    Update from Quicken 4 !!
    ,Hi All,
    I've been using Quicken 4 since 1996, and with about 30 accounts, in GBP and Euros.
    It all works fine on an old Windows ME machine, and WIN XP with a few quirks.
    I also have Quicken 2000, which imports the data OK, but I found the display awful, with no colours.
    I'd like to migrate to windows 10 on my new PC, and am looking to get a copy of Quicken 2017 or similar. I doubt I can import from Quicken 4, but hoping Quicken 2000 will work.
    I don't download from the bank, just enter everything manually and reconcile each month, so don't need all the bells and whistles. Any suggestions appreciated.
    • msallen
    • By msallen 20th Aug 17, 6:54 PM
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    msallen
    Thanks for that George.

    Interesting that you opened a brand new account to resurrect a thread that hadn't been posted on for two months to plug a piece of unknown software never before mentioned anywhere on MSE.

    Seems this isn't the only place you've suddenly decided to open a new account and started posting positive reviews either...

    https://www.buzz50.com/forum/224-computers-the-internet/1528504-personal-finance-management-software
    https://investorjunkie.com/45433/quicken-2017-review/
    • eskbanker
    • By eskbanker 20th Aug 17, 7:26 PM
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    eskbanker
    Also many other suspiciously similarly-worded shillpositive posts from one or more Georges on other sites too, anyone would think the CEO of Moneyspire is called George!

    https://www.supermoney.com/reviews/money-management/moneyspire
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/uAQgs7p5yU4/M80_O_TmCgAJ
    https://thetimelessfamily.com/get-rid-of-that-old-school-check-register/
    • TrustyOven
    • By TrustyOven 20th Aug 17, 8:22 PM
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    TrustyOven
    I'm dubious about Moneyspire - they won't even let you see the source code.

    At least the program I use, you can get the code for.

    And Moneyspire won't work on my computer.
    Goals
    Save 12k in 2017 #016 (4212.06 / 10k) (42.12%)
    Save 12k in 2016 #041 (4558.28 / 6k) (75.97%)
    Save 12k in 2014 #192 (4115.62 / 5k) (82.3%)
    • doc rich
    • By doc rich 3rd Feb 18, 8:36 PM
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    doc rich
    Hi All,
    I've been using Quicken 2000 for ever and installed it successfully on a new PC 5 years ago running Win 8 and upgraded to Win 10 with no problems until this last week..
    This week there was an update installed WIN 10 version 1709.
    Coinciding with this update, but i can't say due to it, I now have some corrupt data. A number of Accounts have lost their details and show up as N/A, some Payees show up as N/A on transactions and some Categories are now showing as N/A. All transactions remain & are numerically correct but a lot of "memo" details have gone showing only as N/A.
    My first thought was to restore from my Backup file but found this was no different. I thought that I must have dumbly backed up after the data was corrupted.
    I hoped that this was just a transient problem so set about re-entering the lost details. Having spent a lot of time doing this and finding there was still many transaction still to do I decided to Backup to a new Backup file.
    Now we come to the most troubling part. Having completed the Backup I noticed that all of the changes I had manually made had disappeared. So then I restored from my new Backup file to find once again that none of the manual changes were there.
    I have no idea what could be causing this. All transactions remain; the vast majority of the data is unaffected; but certain details have been corrupted and can be corrected but not saved.
    I very much regret not moving away from Quicken 5 years ago when I stopped using a Win XP PC because I now have corrupt data.
    Has anyone else had a similar experience or has any suggestions how to resolve this.
    Regards
    Dave
    • No_6
    • By No_6 3rd Feb 18, 9:47 PM
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    No_6
    Have to go HERE...again...sorry peeps !

    MS money still works for those on a PC or laptop.
    I could never run all our multiple accounts for CC's, savings
    and interest paying currents accounts without IT
    • Malchester
    • By Malchester 4th Feb 18, 8:02 AM
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    Malchester
    MSMoney all the time. Tried others but none come anywhere near MSMoney even though it is not supported anymore. As long as it works I will use it
    • Deneb
    • By Deneb 4th Feb 18, 11:49 AM
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    Deneb
    It appears from your post that you only kept a single backup file. Quicken has the option to append time and date to your backup so that you create a new backup file each time you back up. If you use that, you can then go back to the last good backup. I keep the last 3 months on a separate drive, also backed up to a NAS and have Quicken configured to create a backup every time I close it.

    As this happened in conjunction with a Win 10 update though, it does suggest a possible incompatibility between the update and your old version of Quicken, so there may be nothing actually wrong with your data file unless you have saved it since the problem occurred.

    You could try running Quicken in a Win XP virtual machine on Win 10. Depending on your version of Win 10, you may already have HyperV installed or available under Windows features.

    If that's not an option, have a look at VMWare.

    I still run Q2004XG UK on a Win XP VM for historical reasons, although my current file in in Q2016 US.
    • usernamenobodyhas
    • By usernamenobodyhas 10th Aug 18, 8:56 AM
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    usernamenobodyhas
    Bump! - Still the same
    It's years on and we're still in the same boat. YNAB importing playing up as they don't officially support the UK. Quicken looks great, as do some others but not in the UK.

    There are now a great number of apps that will very easily and reliably download my transactions and tag them but are useless as money management and budgeting tools. There is software, similar to Microsoft money which are completely manual. I've tried loads now, trying to find something like YNAB or Quicken that works. The closest I came was PocketSmith, based in New Zealand. They won't let me have one for business and one for personal, like YNAB. Their trial doesn't allow me to try out bank connections. They are also very expensive, and I don't find it easy to take in the information on the screen. It's a bit like when my satnav goes into night mode. Perhaps I could get used to it. I also don't find it intuitive. YNAB and Quicken are clean and uncluttered. If only YNAB would import with the same reliability as Yolt. Even Emma, which is a new app, supports PayPal connections. My PayPal connection hasn't worked in YNAB for at least a full year. There still seems to be nothing for us in the UK and no UK alternatives either.

    If I must continue to do everything manually, I'm temped to get a couple of Starling accounts going. That way, at least most transactions go through instantly and I'm not playing the game of manually entering half cleared transactions and wondering why the damn thing won't reconcile. There are no such troubles with bank feeds. It's always just spot on.
    • SevenIron
    • By SevenIron 26th Oct 18, 9:48 PM
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    SevenIron
    Hi usernamenobodyhas

    I am using the newest and officially registered Quicken in the the UK without any issues, it updates when a new version is released, I pay yearly for the licence so it can be done, it works fine for me, not sure about Bank statement downloads as I don't use that function.

    Regards

    Mark
    • Fellwalker
    • By Fellwalker 27th Oct 18, 9:04 AM
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    Fellwalker
    I bought Quicken up until they abandoned the UK in 2015, and until a year ago used the XG legacy version, with increasing frustration as it stopped stock updates and then became more difficult to keep working with Windows 10. I became disenchanted because new Quicken wouldn't support UK taxation, and I would have had to buy or acquire interim versions to be able to convert what I had to run on the latest version.

    I am still very happy that I moved completely to MoneyDance. It imported EVERYTHING (since 1997 - 20 years of data) from Quicken, though some transfers between accounts duplicated, and it took 3 months off and on to clear out the duplicates in old accounts. It is flexible enough to cope with current, savings, loans, credit cards, stocks and shares, and ISAs.

    A recent add-on gets up to date investment prices from Yahoo or FT, after Yahoo broke the previous one.
    It accepts downloads from my bank and offers automatic reconciliation.

    It is still being actively developed by a small team.
    Last edited by Fellwalker; 27-10-2018 at 9:12 AM. Reason: pressed shift enter and sent it too soon!
    • Deneb
    • By Deneb 27th Oct 18, 9:15 AM
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    Deneb
    Hi usernamenobodyhas

    I am using the newest and officially registered Quicken in the the UK without any issues, it updates when a new version is released, I pay yearly for the licence so it can be done, it works fine for me, not sure about Bank statement downloads as I don't use that function.

    Regards

    Mark
    Originally posted by SevenIron
    Quicken US won't do financial downloads in the UK, but as a manual account register it works fine, as you say.

    I am still using Q2016 US and likely to continue with it for the foreseeable future. It is stable and relatively bug free, with no ongoing costs unlike the more recent versions which have gone to a subscription model with continuous licensing, although they will also continue to work fine as a manual ledger if you stop paying the subscription, albeit you won't get any further updates.
    • Keith_F
    • By Keith_F 17th Nov 18, 6:00 PM
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    Keith_F
    Getting rapidly fed up with AceMoney, it’s not native to Mac OSX and keeps getting buggy.
    Shame because when it works it’s perfect for me.
    But every OSX update causes problems.

    Thinking very seriously of switching to Moneydance, reviews seem to suggest its works well on a Mac and it seems simple enough to use.
    • No_6
    • By No_6 17th Nov 18, 9:26 PM
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    No_6
    You know what I am going to say

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    • eskbanker
    • By eskbanker 18th Nov 18, 12:12 AM
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    eskbanker
    You know what I am going to say

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    Originally posted by No_6
    Something tediously predictable but utterly irrelevant to Mac users by any chance (such as a rerun of posts #77 to #79 above)?
    • No_6
    • By No_6 18th Nov 18, 9:51 PM
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    No_6
    but they could always bye a lap or pc
    then enter data to KNOW what they spend !
    • eskbanker
    • By eskbanker 19th Nov 18, 12:27 AM
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    eskbanker
    but they could always bye a lap or pc
    then enter data to KNOW what they spend !
    Originally posted by No_6
    Riiiiiiiggghhht, so in a thread specifically seeking alternatives to MS Money, you're just going to continue to blindly promote MS Money, even to the ludicrous extent of advising people on whose equipment it won't run to buy something else? Is there a responsible adult nearby who can stop laughing for long enough to help you?
    • No_6
    • By No_6 19th Nov 18, 10:29 PM
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    No_6
    We just keep going …
    don't ... WE

    we must get out for a meet ????

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    • No_6
    • By No_6 20th Nov 18, 9:16 PM
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    No_6
    Still waiting ? what part of the UK in ?
    North London for me.
    Would be nice to meet for a chat
    re MS Money

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