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    Rich67
    Overhead power line compensation.
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    • 25th Dec 11, 10:20 PM
    Overhead power line compensation. 25th Dec 11 at 10:20 PM
    Hi All,

    I had a letter a few days ago regarding compensation for power lines that cross over my house.

    This was from a company called PCC who claimed to have been acting for the previous owner and been very close to the end of the claim after the previous owner had an offer.

    I have since moved in around 3 months ago and they advise that I am entitled to this payment.

    First I phoned up the electric company direct who confirmed this was the case and after numerous callback I spoke to the man who was handiling the case and he advised the power company had offered £4173.

    He did advise that I would have an easement with the electric company and they would then have permission to run the power lines over the house he also added that the likly hood of getting the moved or removed was next to none.

    I then phoned PCC who advisd that they would charge £1000 for there services so I would get £3173 but the man at the electric compnay did advise I can apoint my own solicitor and they would pay reasonable costs meaning I would get the full amount.

    So my question is has anyone on here heard off or done this before and if yes what restrictions adds to your property.
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    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 4th Mar 18, 5:06 PM
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    Moneyineptitude
    Can anyone recommend a solicitor that might be able to help ?
    Originally posted by MC123
    Since any such recommendation would simply be advertising, the answer is no.

    I'd also beware of responding to any unsolicited private messages you may have received as a result of your request here on the forum.

    You could approach a local solicitor of your own choosing, but I doubt you'd get far because you'd be fighting an uphill battle trying to get the lines removed with the statutory powers the utility companies have.

    I'm certain any solicitor will therefore advise against submitting a compensation claim..
    Last edited by Moneyineptitude; 11-06-2018 at 11:28 PM.
    • xclare
    • By xclare 17th Apr 18, 10:11 PM
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    xclare
    Hi All,
    We have just purchased a property with a wooden electrical pole in the garden and 4 wires coming from it over our property. I have emailed uk power networks regarding claiming but I'm just wondering if people who have had pay-outs could give me a guide of the sort of money you can get ? Are we talking £10's or £1,000's? Thank you
    • selfhelp
    • By selfhelp 19th Apr 18, 9:02 AM
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    selfhelp
    I have a wooden pole at the top of my property and one at the bottom. The power cable runs diagonally across my property for around 60 metres. There was and is no wayleave agreement in place either with the previous owner who had lived there all her life (90 yrs) or myself (11yrs).

    I first contacted SSE around 2 and a half years ago and to date they've done nothing asides from sending 2 guys out who told me it was nothing to do with them. I've had a few mobile numbers given me but no one ever answers and I've advised SSE it's a magnet to wood pigeons and I'm continuously cleaning the mess especially from my vehicles, conservatory roof and so on. I also emailed on numerous occasions the legal dept at SSE, while they admit it's not good enough they also seem unable to motivate anyone to address the issue.

    I think the networks can just stick 2 fingers up to you as I see it there is no legal or ombudsman process in place that compels them to act and from experience another couldn't give a stuff corporate. Anyone had any experience of SSE and if so how did it pan out. I've discounted getting a lawyer involved due to cost and wondered whether a consumer or individual can obtain a court order and if so how do you go about it.
    • bims
    • By bims 22nd Apr 18, 12:26 PM
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    bims
    Update:
    So we have been offered 1% of their value of our property. They have valued it at 30% less than other local agents who say the fact the pole and line would roughly affect around a 5% or so loss of value doesn't really cut it. So I have no idea where they people get 2% - 5% from. In effect we've been offered 0.6%. So funny enough we've rejected it and they've said ok, we'll close the case then!
    How shitty of WPD is that. And of course our remaining options are. Erm, zilch.
    Remove pole. Not possible.
    Put underground. Not possible and our cost anyhow.
    Move pole to less intrusive part of garden. Our cost.
    Seems to me whether you use an agent or not they hold all the cards.
    • Nasqueron
    • By Nasqueron 22nd Apr 18, 1:33 PM
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    Nasqueron
    Update:
    So we have been offered 1% of their value of our property. They have valued it at 30% less than other local agents who say the fact the pole and line would roughly affect around a 5% or so loss of value doesn't really cut it. So I have no idea where they people get 2% - 5% from. In effect we've been offered 0.6%. So funny enough we've rejected it and they've said ok, we'll close the case then!
    How shitty of WPD is that. And of course our remaining options are. Erm, zilch.
    Remove pole. Not possible.
    Put underground. Not possible and our cost anyhow.
    Move pole to less intrusive part of garden. Our cost.
    Seems to me whether you use an agent or not they hold all the cards.
    Originally posted by bims
    Did you buy the house with the pole there?

    Did it reduce the value of the house vs houses that didn't have the pole?

    If so, why did you turn down the offer?
    • bims
    • By bims 22nd Apr 18, 1:40 PM
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    bims
    We bought the house with the pole already there.
    We turned it down as they valued the house at 33% less then 3 other agents.
    We know from talking to other people what they have been offered and this is way short of similar examples. So they are trying to stitch us up by going direct.
    Plus we didn't agree on the impact. We said it was severe as the pole is 6M from our new house we have built. They say it based on the older house which is 100M away.
    Either way based on other compensation claims their acting agent is wrong.
    I've not put in a complaint to WPD direct to see what they say.
    • fwor
    • By fwor 22nd Apr 18, 2:21 PM
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    fwor
    Plus we didn't agree on the impact. We said it was severe as the pole is 6M from our new house we have built. They say it based on the older house which is 100M away.
    Originally posted by bims
    I suspect you should have accepted their offer. If you built the new house in the knowledge of how close an existing pole is to it, I don't see any independent arbitrator accepting that as the basis for proximity.

    I should however declare a financial interest - I'm an electricity bill payer, and I'm not over-eager to have to pay extra on my bill so that my supplier can settle unreasonable/unrealistic compo claims!
    • ruthie52
    • By ruthie52 25th Apr 18, 4:28 PM
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    ruthie52
    Can anyone advise please?
    I contacted Western Power because there is a low voltage pole and stay on my land and had an immediate reply. It was confirmed that there was no wayleave and that I was entitled to apply. I was given the payment rates for annual payment, a 10 and 15 year payment and I was entitled to 6 years back payment. I have owned the land for 22 years.
    I further inquired about easement and was told that they do not do that for low voltage poles.
    I also queried the 6 years back-payment and was told that it was the maximum they pay out. I've read in one thread on this website that someone got 10 years back payment.
    Can anyone throw any light on this please?
    • M_Lloyd
    • By M_Lloyd 11th Jun 18, 4:41 PM
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    M_Lloyd
    Hi. Six years is the most you can back-date as it's the Statute of Limitations legal time period. I would be surprised if any longer is agreed. In any case like this you could seek advice from your local Chartered Surveyor or Land Agent.
    • gingerstark
    • By gingerstark 6th Aug 18, 11:07 AM
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    gingerstark
    Thomson Broadbent now charge 20% letter dated 07/2018
    • Grey2
    • By Grey2 18th Aug 18, 9:43 AM
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    Grey2
    Supply to my neighbour
    I have received numerous communications from Thomas Broadbent. I don't mind them taking their commission, but am a little wary of signing up to their Terms and Conditions. Is there any small print whereby I could finish up having to pay them more than I get, or with charges for anything in the event of a failed claim?

    I only have 1 power cable running across my property to my neighbours house, which is unsightly, but not the end of the world. is it worth pursuing?
    • lincslass69
    • By lincslass69 7th Sep 18, 7:59 PM
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    lincslass69
    Hi All,
    We have just purchased a property with a wooden electrical pole in the garden and 4 wires coming from it over our property. I have emailed uk power networks regarding claiming but I'm just wondering if people who have had pay-outs could give me a guide of the sort of money you can get ? Are we talking £10's or £1,000's? Thank you
    Originally posted by xclare
    Hi Clare

    I work for a electricity distribution company. I’d recommend contacting them directly and saying you’ve just bought the property. From what you’re describing I wouldn’t expect too much.
    • M_Lloyd
    • By M_Lloyd 11th Sep 18, 3:12 PM
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    M_Lloyd
    Clare. Your compensation entitlement will depend on what right you wish to give away to the electricity company. If you get a lump sum payout they will ask for a 99yr wayleave or permanent easement, thus sterilising the area covered by the pole and overhead lines. An annual payment will only be a couple of ££, but they take an annual wayleave in return. Consult with your local Chartered Surveyor or Land Agent.
    • redseadiver
    • By redseadiver 24th Sep 18, 9:51 AM
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    redseadiver
    Hi, advice please.
    I have just received one of the letters that many of you have so I am trying to understand quite what this is for.
    I have a couple of fields and I have wooden power lines in those and WPD pay me £100 a year for those. I understood this letter was suggesting I could renegotiate this rate, but reading this thread my inference is that this is nothing to do with the payment for the poles in my fields (which are separate from my house) but this may be because there is an electricity line crossing over my garden. Is this right?
    Currently the power company will trim the trees in my hedges to prevent damage to the power line - if I take the money then would I then be responsible for this prevention work?

    The company that contacted me is Sherwill Drake Forbes. They guarantee minimum payment of £1,250 AFTER their 20% fee is deducted.

    I am unlikely to use them there is some serious research to be done first, once I understand what it is they are offering to renegotiate for me.

    Thanks in advance!
    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 24th Sep 18, 10:28 AM
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    Moneyineptitude
    The company that contacted me is CMC..CMC CMC. They guarantee minimum payment of £1,250 AFTER their 20% fee is deducted.
    Originally posted by redseadiver
    None of these companies do anything you cannot do yourself alone and for free. Contact your electricity supplier and do your own "renegotiation". Don't be suckered into paying anyone to put a stamp on the envelope containing a complaint you can easily make yourself.
    • redseadiver
    • By redseadiver 24th Sep 18, 11:17 AM
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    redseadiver
    I'm not intending to get them to do anything I am trying atm to establish IF this is payable just for a power line crossing over my domestic garden or if this applies to the poles that I get a 6 monthly wayleave payment for in my fields or indeed both?
    • redseadiver
    • By redseadiver 24th Sep 18, 1:48 PM
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    redseadiver
    I contacted WPD and they said this claim could only be for the low power cable which crosses my garden. They offer £200 for a 15 year wayleave agreement and will pay £150 as an enhanced payment for the past 6 years because I could have been claiming this for the last 20 years. I thought they only paid if you had the poles in the land as in my fields - but these figures are hardly life changing I'll see if I can do any further digging into the claims of getting four figure settlements but it doesnt look like it. Still £350 is a nice bonus
    • M_Lloyd
    • By M_Lloyd 26th Sep 18, 11:41 AM
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    M_Lloyd
    Contact your local Land Agent (Chartered Surveyor), they will do all the hard negotiating for you. WPD will pay their fee. Land Agents have a wealth of experience in these cases and comparables to negotiate the best deal for you. You were originally contacted by the 'claims' companies who target localities from an electricity database of people of have apparatus on their land.
    • TwmSionCati
    • By TwmSionCati 1st Oct 18, 1:26 PM
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    TwmSionCati
    You were originally contacted by the 'claims' companies who target localities from an electricity database of people of have apparatus on their land.
    Yes, and by using a list of standard wayleave settlements they’re able to collect the cash without any negotiation at all in 90 per cent of cases.

    The other day I was contacted by Sherwill Drake Forbes, who said “eligible clients should receive a minimum of £1520 after our fee is deducted from the negotiated wayleave settlement”, their fee being 20% plus VAT — which means the settlement would have to be £2000. How could they be so precise? Simples! — the electricity database and the list.

    Just to check, I sent my DNO (Western Power Distribution) a two-line email asking if there’s a settlement in my case (a single pole-mounted transformer in a discreet corner of the garden and 50-odd yards of 11kV cable overflying). Within a few hours the emailed response was that there isn’t but I could have a 14-year one for £2000; or annual wayleave payments of £45 indefinitely plus 6 years’-worth of back-payments; or a ‘negotiated settlement’.

    Since my case is bog-standard the settlement obviously wouldn’t be any higher if negotiated; and £900 over 14 years didn’t seem nearly as attractive as £2000 instantly.

    More exactly: “within 14 days of completion of the agreement”; contrast SDF’s offer: “within 6-12 months from the time of instruction” — during all of which time my settlement would be racking up interest that I’ld never see!

    Contact your local Land Agent (Chartered Surveyor), they will do all the hard negotiating for you.
    Quite un-necessary in the vast majority of cases.


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    • Church9
    • By Church9 11th Oct 18, 4:06 PM
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    Church9
    I am in a similar situation to some of the other posters on here.

    I have a three wire overhead 11kV line running over about 95% of my property, including oversailing the house. There is also a pole and stay wire in my garden.

    I am currently negotiating with the agents acting on behalf of the DNO and they have offered 2.25% of the property value for a permanent easement.

    I feel that this figure is on the low side and would be interested to see what others have settled at for a similar situation.
    Originally posted by Mister G
    First this was an extremely informative thread so thanks to all who have contributed.

    Mister G did you ever settle your claim and if so would you be able to say at what percentage?
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