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    • fredsnail
    • By fredsnail 25th Oct 10, 11:43 PM
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    Lose Weight 31
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    Lose Weight 31 25th Oct 10 at 11:43 PM
    Welcome to our new thread

    Winter is on it's way with the party season fast approaching. Do you have a little black outfit you want to wear? Do you want to have more sparkle during the festive season?

    There is still time to become more stunning than you already are

    Welcome to the place where we encourage you not to save 's but to lose Lb's instead

    So you wanna lose weight? You've come to the right place! Need a chat, a shoulder, encouragement and advice perhaps or even some downright silliness??

    Pull up a chair and join in the chat, whatever plan you're following to lose weight, be it SW, WW, RC, or just plain old reducing what you eat and increasing the exercise, there'll be someone here that can help and advise, or offer moral support.

    There are plenty of regulars here who follow all types of plan and will be willing and able to help you out or at least point you in the right direction.

    During the course of the week, feel free to post your weekly loss, gain or no change, and see your results in a chart that's updated every Wednesday evening. To help us older folk quickly spot the losses, please post the loss as BOLD and Colourful as possible (Its helps those of us with bad eyes )

    The chart is currently maintained by me, so if you can post your result before 10pm on a Wednesday you will be included on the chart.

    Also you can take part in the 5lb monthly challenge - This is a fun mini motivational monthly challenge, in which the goal of losing 2lb per week, is spread out to 5lb per month. Next one has just about started so get your name down quick and post your name and start the new list. You could be Slimmer of the Week, or Slimmer of the Month!

    We also currently have a North v South challenge so if you want to join the Southern Stunners or the Buckfast Beauties it's not too late

    A few abbreviations:
    STS ~ Stay The Same (No change in weight)
    HHA ~ Half Hour Activity, 30 minutes of whatever activity you choose, as long as it gets you moving it's good for you!
    HHSS ~ Half Hour Sofa Slumping
    SOTW ~ Slimmer Of The Week
    SOTM ~ Slimmer Of The Month

    We have plenty of recipes to help you in the recipes thread (link below) and there are links to useful websites below.


    There are some friendly peoples 'Before and After' Pics on Lose Weight 19 and 20


    So come and join us, we're a friendly bunch! There are even one or two gentlemen hiding amongst us! You might even enjoy it
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    • Nile
    • By Nile 25th Oct 10, 11:51 PM
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    Thank you fredsnail...................are you any relation to Brian?








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    • fredsnail
    • By fredsnail 25th Oct 10, 11:51 PM
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    Thanks Nile - I'm sure I've a distant relation called Brian
    • puddings
    • By puddings 25th Oct 10, 11:56 PM
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    • 25th Oct 10, 11:56 PM
    i had a chicken ceaser sandwhich, ready salted crisps and a apple juice. Megs had the sausage roll. It was a toss up between that or an afternoon tea

    Hate pies, always have done. Mum likes the bentos whatever pies. I'd eat a pie if the ratio of filling and pastry was the same. It never is so i wont eat one
    Originally posted by vixarooni
    A sausage roll, mmm, genetically i reckon thats much closer to a meat pie than a cucumber sandwich.
    In "the mse food tour of Britain" I'd say therefore that Meg should represent somewhere probably just north of the midlands!
    Next door's cat is called Meg, she's a fussy eater too, I know this because although she likes tinned tuna, she wont touch wotsits, chocolate wafer biscuit or honey nut cheerios. Have never tested her on a sausage roll though, ... maybe I should wait for the neighbour to go out first
    Last edited by puddings; 26-10-2010 at 12:09 AM.
  • Eric Pisch
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    • 26th Oct 10, 6:22 AM
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    • 26th Oct 10, 6:22 AM
    (this needs a rewrite) Some quick tips from my copyrighted system of brilliant weight loss

    99% of all diets fail it's a terrifying fact. The reason why we keep failing is simple, if your overweight before you start to diet something is wrong your either getting too little exercise or eating too much or more than likely both. If you go on a Diet and lose weight and then when you are finished you go back to your old eating habits guess what you will put the weight back on. Most of us do this and we keep YoYo'ing because of it.

    Being overweight does not necessarily make you a piggy,
    to be 50lbs over weight at age 40 you only need to eat 25 cals a day (half an apple) to much every day starting when you are 20. Although many of us comfort eat through stress / depression in an ever downward circle of despair which is not helped by the addictive nature of some foods. Eating junk food can certainly add to feeling low and make a bad situation worse.

    To lose the weight and keep it off we are going to have to make permanent lifestyle changes, this means eating controlled amounts of food and taking regular exercise. Once you are at goal weight you will be able to eat more with the occasional bad thing but most of the time you will need to stay eating healthy foods and follow a reasonable exercise regime. It's important to accept we probably have eating issues and to resolve them we are going to have to make permanent lifestyle changes.

    There's no quick fixes, no magic tablets and no matter what you read no wonder combinations of food that will make the weight fall off. All the research to date has shown that no matter what dieting system you use it comes down to the basic laws of thermal dynamics. If energy eaten is less than energy used you lose weight.

    Before you even think about losing weight it's important to realise that weight loss is 90% in the mind. You have to really want it, if your only half committed then you will fail as we all have many times. You need to be in a good place mentally before you start as you will need to be focused on the task at hand most of the time. If you have external distractions and stresses it's going to make your journey very much harder, remember this is about you and that means most of the effort involved is going to have to come from you alone.

    So which diet system is best? The simple answer is they can all possibly work, the best way to go forward is to find a system that you can follow and fits in with your lifestyle be it calorie counting, WW, SW, the hardcombe diet etc. Try to avoid the dangerous diets that let you eat the dangerous fats (cholesterol and hydrogenated / trans fats) or diets that replace meals with a "shake" (which are ultra high refined sugar) or replacement "meals" with packets of dog knows what.... An important part of the journey is training yourself to learn what is the right amount to eat and when, and to literally relearn when we are actually hungry and not respond to stress, depression or addictive behaviour.

    Now here's the horrid bit your brain could be chemically making you crave "bad things" and working against you, the human brain is large and needs a lot of energy to feed it, and as a defensive message against starvation we have evolved to release hormones from the pleasure centre of the brain to reward the eating of high energy foods (sugars and fats). The downside is after a short "high" we feel a much longer "down" which can lead to eating just to crave the high again. We can kick this behavioural pattern no one is holding a gun to our heads saying eat these bad foods, we need to look in that mirror be truthful to ourselves and let our own will power and determination just say no! After a week or two of avoiding foods with addictive like properties most if not all cravings should go and weight loss should become much much easier. The tough bit thou is those first two weeks and avoiding the addictive type food but once "detoxed" there should no longer be cravings

    The addictive type foods are:

    Fatty foods - A difficult one since some fats/oils are very good for your health. Try to avoid any food with 3% or more saturated fat especially if the fat cannot be removed (and avoid totally hydrogenated / trans fats). It is however important to eat healthy fats / oils (polyunsaturated / mono-unsaturated) as they have a very positive affect on health and even lower cholesterol. Nuts and cold pressed extra virgin rapeseed oil are great sources as well as oily fish (plus you get omega oils!). However you need to be careful on the amounts you eat as they are very energy dense.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8673208.stm

    Refined sugars - nasty over processed stuff, not to be mixed up with natural sugar in fruit, etc. Avoid it, there's a reason that diabetes is reaching epidemic proportions and this stuff is it.

    Chocolate - really trips the old pleasure centre into overdrive, ultra energy dense with loaded fats and sugars. After two weeks you wont miss it, trust me.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8644016.stm

    Cheese - the surprise contender, again causes hormone release and many types contain opiates! No wonder I was a class one cheese junkie

    To also be considered

    Caffeine - causes a release of sugar from the liver (the energy kick) but you then get insulin production which could cause sugar cravings. Going cold turkey from caffeine causes most people headaches, there's a hint if ever one was needed.

    Alcohol - tasty and fun it maybe but it's just wasted calories with almost no nutritional benefit.

    The nasty E word Exercise, It's important, in fact it's extremely important to do at least 3 seasons of 30 mins a week of exercise or more if you can, you need to be working at a level where you are breathing heavyish (from the lower part of your lungs) but you can still talk. Warm up and down for 5 mins before and after, build up to this level slowly and see a Doc beforehand. Anything will do, jogging, bike, elliptical trainer, aerobics, wii fit etc. Make yourself build it into the natural part of the daily life, remember this is a lifestyle change forever, not a quick fix. Exercise not only burns calories whilst being done but also whilst you recover. Regular exercise will also speed up your metabolism and if some strength / resistance training is built into your regime it will increase the amount of calories you need each day, yummy we can eat more

    So how much should I eat, unfortunately we are all very different and have very different amounts of muscle and our activity levels change greatly. Here is one of many good websites that can give you a guide as to how much you need to eat a day. It should be noted it is critical not to eat too little, this just causes the metabolism to shut down and go into starvation mode (it can even start to consume your own muscle and organs!) and weight loss will become extremely hard.

    http://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html

    What to eat, where ever you can avoid processed food (and the nasty muck they put in it). Eat simple healthy natural foods (often called whole foods) with lots of fruit and veg, natural carbs and lean protein. Carbs can be good for you but generally we eat to many especially late at night when we do not really need the sustained energy they give. You should eat about 30%-40% of your diet as carbs, their best eaten before periods of heavy physical activity like exercise or physical work such as in the morning or at lunch. Bread /Wheat /Rye can be a problem for some people (gluten). Eat lots of lean meat as this acts as an appetite suppressant and don't forget those healthy oily fish. Avoid where you can energy dense high calorie foods, anything over 200 cals per 100g as these will be high fat and or high sugar which also means you get very little to eat. But don't forget to eat those healthy oils and fats, try to get 30% of your calories from them. Generally it's better to eat a large plate of fruit and veg than one small snack bar for the same calories and actually be full.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8688104.stm

    Where you can make your own food, this should not only be vastly healthier and you can control what's in it but it should also be cheaper and you use calories in the actual cooking process so its win, win, win . Where you can avoid putting salt in anything, we get more than enough.

    Some people like to give themselves little treats / rewards during the week. In my mind those treats, that night drinking, or that unhealthy meal out are just self defeating. Not only are they keeping the cravings alive but they are going to slow down your weight loss and may lead to weeks with no loss or even a gain which is just going to demotivate you and lead to more disappointing weeks and maybe even failure. I think it would be better to just to set yourself a realistic amount of weight to loose in a sensible amount of time and then in your mind commit 100% to eating healthy all the time. It may help to be honest to partners, friends, family and work colleagues for the next X weeks please do not tempt me with bad things ... Staying focused on your goal will help keep the losses coming in which in turn keep you focused on the task in hand.

    When it comes to weighing yourself always use the same method. That is the same place, the same time, the same scales. ONLY ONCE A WEEK !! as its easy to become demotivated with the natural gains your body can make over the week. The ideal time is first thing in the morning after your ablutions, naked and before you drink (a mug of tea can add 0.6 lbs!!) but however you do it always use the same system.

    And finally there are no quick fixes no magic tablets / drinks that will work (or everyone would be super slim) I am afraid it's down to basic physics, if calories used are less than calories eaten you will lose weight. Accept this is going to be a permanent lifestyle change, "detox" from the addictive foods, eat normal healthy unprocessed food, take that exercise and look forward to enjoying the new healthier you



    Gadgets and software that can help

    The wii fit has had some great comments by some of our members although I have not used one as I prefer my treadmill.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wii-Fit-Plus...9331702&sr=8-1

    Actifry, my saviour makes ultra healthy chips / wedges (use cold pressed extra virgin rapeseed oil (which is so yummy)), mines 18 months old and gets used like a work horse, also can do other healthy meals.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tefal-ActiFr...9330573&sr=8-1


    VidaoneOne Diet and Fitness, is ideal for anyone who does not want to join a club but wants to accurately monitor calories and exercise (it also does points)

    http://www.vidaone.com/vodf_win.htm

    MyPersonalDiet, my second saviour, allows for accurate monitoring of calories and exercise on your phone!!! Available on several phone formats and syncs with the Diet and Fitness desktop software for printing charts etc. The ultimate aid for the truely geeky dieter

    http://www.vidaone.com/impd.htm

    Body fat calculating scales, The standard BMI calculation is very inaccurate, with these types of scales when used as directed will give you a far more accurate idea of how much fat and how much muscle you have. This will allow you to set your goal much more accurately.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Omron-BF508-...d_i=B001N064JW

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Omron-BF508-...6498953&sr=8-2


    Disclaimer: I am not a doctor / scientist, I am just an above avg IQ nerd who reads far too much, I have no affiliations or links with anyone or any company mentioned, Always seek medical advice before undertaking anything, never run with scissors. We accept no liability if you lose too much weight, fail to lose weight, put on weight, remain ugly, your leg falls off, aliens invade your house and kidnap your cats, your lottery tickets do not win, you die or any other bad thing happens to you, copyright Eric Pisch 2010
    My Weight Loss Journey
    - Phase 1 2010
    - 180.8lbs in 47 Weeks
    - Phase 2 2011 - 51.6lbs Week 37 Fat Git 2 5K - 27.16's
    - Lean Muscle Gained - 4.0lbs
    - Total Loss - 236.4lbs
    This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.
  • neilersmc
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    • 26th Oct 10, 8:34 AM
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    • 26th Oct 10, 8:34 AM
    Morning Folks

    Just a pish -1/2 lb this week -

    Gutted with all the effort I have put in exercise wise. Plan this week is to keep a food diary and see if anything has crept back in.

    One thing I will be doing is ditching bread this week - porridge instead of toast for brekkie. Have discovered it tastes so much nicer with a wee bit of cinnamon added

    Incidently how do you make text bigger when posting weight loss?
  • victory
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    • 26th Oct 10, 9:05 AM
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    Click on the sizes in the box where it says 2 above this writing it has a drop down bar and it goes from 1 to seven pick the size you want and put it in bold and colour so fred can see it easy
    [QUOTE=misspiggy;51404641]I'm sure you're an angel in disguise Victory
    • Funnelly
    • By Funnelly 26th Oct 10, 9:17 AM
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    • 26th Oct 10, 9:17 AM
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    My scales are playing up at the moment. 4 times I got on them yesterday and they just said "error". Tried a couple of times this morning and got such different results I dont know what to believe.

    Tonight is the first of the Big Girl Fitness class I've signed up to. Going on my own but I know its a small class. Hopefully I'll be able to manage it.
  • Sweetie_here
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    • 26th Oct 10, 9:45 AM
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    3.5lbs off this week got my stone award and was also SOTW.

    Not bad going considering the cream bun and sausage roll on Friday.

    Walking up a mountain and superspeed soup seem to have helped. I am still feeling it in the thighs and butt! lol
    • de1amo
    • By de1amo 26th Oct 10, 9:52 AM
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    that was a swift change of thread--i was waiting til the end of month to change to winter time!!--i wonder if the clock change will cause any change in total weight loss in this exciting north/south battle!!??--we could start a whole new theory to go along with the millions of others!!
    i am just watching the scales to keep where i am now--73,3kgs--i have given up cheese by default--my wife no longer makes me breakfast because she has read tomatoes are out of season and not to be eaten now--we always had salad with cheese for breakfast!!--so its special k from now on!!
    mfw'11 No68- 55k mortgage İO--little to nothing saved! i must do better.
  • Eric Pisch
    read this fascinating article

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1323758/Can-cutting-Carbohydrates-diet-make-live-longer.html

    her diet is a near mirror match of mine, except i worked mine out from reading dozens of bits of research and trial and error
    My Weight Loss Journey
    - Phase 1 2010
    - 180.8lbs in 47 Weeks
    - Phase 2 2011 - 51.6lbs Week 37 Fat Git 2 5K - 27.16's
    - Lean Muscle Gained - 4.0lbs
    - Total Loss - 236.4lbs
    This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.
    • beanielou
    • By beanielou 26th Oct 10, 12:41 PM
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    Happy shiney new thread
    Thanks fred
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    • de1amo
    • By de1amo 26th Oct 10, 12:52 PM
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    its quite interesting because my mother is a celiac and at 80 years old she is very youthful in her ways--her brothers and sisters who led a 'northern' life with lots of drinking and poor diets died before the age of 50!--she cut out all flour products as prescribed in the article--she has never drunk alcohol--she could pass for in her 60s and has no real ailments!
    mfw'11 No68- 55k mortgage İO--little to nothing saved! i must do better.
  • bettyB
    Chocolate - really trips the old pleasure centre into overdrive, ultra energy dense with loaded fats and sugars. After two weeks you wont miss it, trust me.
    Originally posted by Eric Pisch
    This is so true. I have given up choc numerous times and not missed it after 2 weeks. But then when I eat it again I become instantly addicted again.

    Love the disclaimer by the way! but i fully intend to blame you if i remain ugly!

    3.5lbs off this week got my stone award and was also SOTW.

    Not bad going considering the cream bun and sausage roll on Friday.

    Walking up a mountain and superspeed soup seem to have helped. I am still feeling it in the thighs and butt! lol
    Originally posted by Sweetie_here
    Well done!

    Argh when do the clocks change?????? I always forget and end up late/early to everything the next day

    Thanks for the new thread Fred
    Betty B: The Eternal Procrastinator....
    Why Put Off Until Tomorrow What You Can Do Today?
    • puddings
    • By puddings 26th Oct 10, 1:38 PM
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    Argh when do the clocks change?????? I always forget and end up late/early to everything the next day
    Originally posted by bettyB
    i think they change this coming sunday at 2am, pretty sure we put them back an hour at this time of year but does that mean it feels like we have an extra hour in bed or an hour less in bed? i always struggle to work that one out, especially as i often dont get to bed until about 2 anyway
    • safesound
    • By safesound 26th Oct 10, 7:16 PM
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    Fall back, spring forward so it feels like an extra hour. I love this time of year
    • vixarooni
    • By vixarooni 26th Oct 10, 9:07 PM
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    Do they not have schools up north ted? muhaha!! I know youre a bright lad really, im sure you can hit me harder than i can hit you so i wont say anything else

    Talking of northern....im going to see take me out being filmed on sunday!! For those who arent clued up its this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSG42_oln6o and paddy is one of my northern crushes.
  • Eric Pisch
    a respectable 2.7lb loss this week
    My Weight Loss Journey
    - Phase 1 2010
    - 180.8lbs in 47 Weeks
    - Phase 2 2011 - 51.6lbs Week 37 Fat Git 2 5K - 27.16's
    - Lean Muscle Gained - 4.0lbs
    - Total Loss - 236.4lbs
    This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.
  • mazza111
    Was a +1lb for me this week. I actually made it a +2 but according to the chart I'd forgotten to put a -1 down somewhere. So I'm exactly the same weight as I was at the start of the last challenge. Pretty sure TOTM is looming. + made donuts and pancakes the other night. I couldn't resist the donuts, although I was good and didn't even have a taster of the pancakes. Been naughty at work too eating crisps and chocolate from the machine. Maybe it's time to leave my purse in the car again!!!!

    So onwards and upwards!!!or downwards I hope
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter
    • Funnelly
    • By Funnelly 27th Oct 10, 9:14 AM
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    My scales appear to be back working properly again and gave me the same reading 3 times so it must be right! Its a -1lb for me this week, which isnt bad. Slowly slowly catchy monkey!

    I wasnt kidding when I said the Big Girls Fitness class was going to be small. There was only 2 of us there! Really really enjoyed it though and have signed up to go next week already. The only downside is that its 10 a go, but if I wasnt there I would be spending that 10 in the pub.
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