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    Interhacker
    Please help, is this job offer a scam?
    • #1
    • 24th Aug 10, 11:36 PM
    Please help, is this job offer a scam? 24th Aug 10 at 11:36 PM
    I have used Computers every day of my life i have seen scams done to others and i have been employed to stop scams, yet this email (Job offer) seems to dodgey to comprehend.

    The worst part being i cant see where they could be scamming me, something just isn`t right.

    Datatec UK

    Dear Bryn

    Here is a further update in respect of your application.

    You have sent us your CV and applied for the position of E-Marketing Representative. This is a Home Based role, with a basic Salary of
    20-25,000 pa + Commission with an OTE of 40,000 pa.

    We are currently reviewing all applications and are pleased to offer you the opportunity of progressing to the next stage, therefore please read the following instructions carefully and complete these within the time scale we have allocated.

    Our company is growing rapidly and we will shortly be introducing a number of new Digital Products and Services to our existing portfolio which will make us a market leader in our industry so there has never been a better or more exciting time to join us.

    We have been advertising on a National basis and have a substantial number of vacancies that we would like to fill as quickly as possible. We have both Full Time and Part Time vacancies available.

    To help us in the selection process you will need to complete the following exercise as quickly and efficiently as possible. During this process we will be observing a number of factors that are key to you becoming a successful E-Marketing Representative and we stress therefore that it is important to your application that you complete everything thoroughly and as quickly as possible and no later than the cut off date which we will provide you.

    You will find the exercise we have set you both interesting and fun and it is based around a new and revolutionary FREE download available to both the general public and business's alike, which was launched into the UK & Ireland by our parent company,
    Momentum-Group just a few weeks ago. You need to do the following:

    1) Go to the following link *{Website that im not allowed to post}*
    2) We recommend you watch all of the Video's on this page
    3) Complete your First & Second name in the registration box together with your email address and send (we will be notified when you have done this)
    4) You will get a confirmation email confirming your registration which will also provide the download link, click on this and
    5) This will take you to the download page - download the FREE application (again we will be notified when you have done this)
    6) Once you have downloaded the application, thoroughly familiarise yourself with it - this is important.
    7) Once you are happy that you understand how it works please answer the following questions:

    (a) How do you set the Genie so that it knows where you are?
    (b) What are the key features of this FREE download?
    (c) What would be a key benefit to an individual using this download?
    (d) What would be a key benefit to a business using this download?
    (e) How would you market this product if you were on a fairly tight budget?

    This should not take you very long to complete but do consider your answers carefully and reply to us by email. Your target time and date is 6.00pm this Thursday 26th August or sooner but absolutely no later than 6.00pm on the 31st August 2010.

    Once we have received your responses we will be short listing for interview so you should here back from us by the end of next week.

    Many thanks for your continued interest in our company and these exciting positions.

    Kind Regards




    Recruitment Support Team

    Datatec Group


    DatatecUK
    Market House
    2 Marlborough Road
    SWINDON
    SN3 1QY
    UK
    t. +44 (0)1367 709385 f. +44 (0)1793 300 215

    DatatecUSA
    Suite 901
    315 Madison Avenue
    NEW YORK
    NY10017
    USA
    t. +1 646 797 3101 f. +1 914 462 3473
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  • bookguy
    • #2
    • 24th Aug 10, 11:50 PM
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    • 24th Aug 10, 11:50 PM
    Hm, I've had the same email, and it doesn't seem quite right to me either. I think they're looking for SEO grinders - which is OK if you're actually getting paid 20 000 for it, plus the stated OTE, but I bet it won't work out that way.

    It's possible the clickthrough from the email itself is to garner cash, I don't know. I applied for it from the direct.gov jobs website, so I'll enquire with them and feed back.
  • bookguy
    • #3
    • 24th Aug 10, 11:57 PM
    • #3
    • 24th Aug 10, 11:57 PM
    Update - I've just tried the phone number they put as their "international" one, and it seems to go to some Swindon bloke's voicemail, no company ID/Switchboard, nothing.

    I think it's a scam, unfortunately.

    Their website and the poor punctuation on their job offer seems to bear this out.

    edit:

    Also, if you goolemap the postcode, it's just some cottage on Euro road, Swindon.
    Last edited by bookguy; 25-08-2010 at 12:09 AM.
    • shaven-monkey
    • By shaven-monkey 25th Aug 10, 12:17 AM
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    shaven-monkey
    • #4
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:17 AM
    • #4
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:17 AM
    Harvesting personal info.
    Getting you to install a rootkit on your own computer.

    Aside from that I'm sure it's totally legit.
    "Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves." - Norm Franz
  • Interhacker
    • #5
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:23 AM
    • #5
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:23 AM
    I sent them my CV when applying for the position it contained my DOB, Address , Phone Number, ect , looks like im getting some fun mail though the post then lol.



    Cheers guys!
    • shaven-monkey
    • By shaven-monkey 25th Aug 10, 12:26 AM
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    shaven-monkey
    • #6
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:26 AM
    • #6
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:26 AM
    Just my opinion.
    I have no knowledge of the job or product other than what you posted, I'm just extremely ... cynical.
    "Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves." - Norm Franz
  • bookguy
    • #7
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:28 AM
    • #7
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:28 AM
    Shaven-Monkey, you're right. I'm going to report this guy to the direct.gov people tomorrow.
  • Interhacker
    • #8
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:34 AM
    • #8
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:34 AM
    Just my opinion.
    I have no knowledge of the job or product other than what you posted, I'm just extremely ... cynical.
    Originally posted by shaven-monkey
    Cynical is my middle name, cheers mate
  • fubar1010
    • #9
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:48 AM
    • #9
    • 25th Aug 10, 12:48 AM
    I recieved the exact same email about 2hours ago!

    I was simply just googling info about how to market things etc
    and ended up here on this thread...

    I applied for this job through my Local Jobcentre..
    So i this is a scam then they have pulled the wool over everyones eyes...
  • Interhacker
    I recieved the exact same email about 2hours ago!

    I was simply just googling info about how to market things etc
    and ended up here on this thread...

    I applied for this job through my Local Jobcentre..
    So i this is a scam then they have pulled the wool over everyones eyes...
    Originally posted by fubar1010

    Glad my topic spread light on it for you, there was no info about this in google.

    Hopefully people will see this topic in google and no one will fall for it.
    • cmw1212
    • By cmw1212 25th Aug 10, 1:07 AM
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    cmw1212
    Update - I've just tried the phone number they put as their "international" one, and it seems to go to some Swindon bloke's voicemail, no company ID/Switchboard, nothing.

    I think it's a scam, unfortunately.

    Their website and the poor punctuation on their job offer seems to bear this out.

    edit:

    Also, if you goolemap the postcode, it's just some cottage on Euro road, Swindon.
    Originally posted by bookguy
    I don't see how that proves anything lots of businesses run from small premises- I had an interview once for a company based in an old church!
    Also their MD is on linkedin, TBH his profile doesn't make him look like a scammer- I know nothing about this kind of thing mind. I imagine people who work in IT get so many dodgy job offers they have to be really careful.
  • whinging hamster
    Had exactly the same email today, and alarm bells a ringing. I'm not sure why though lol
  • sugargrass
    Personally, I'd go by this rule of thumb...

    If you aren't desperate and you really couldn't care either way, just leave it.

    Better safe than sorry!
    • hartcjhart
    • By hartcjhart 25th Aug 10, 1:59 PM
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    hartcjhart
    so you complete the task and an email comes back
    well done we are delighted to offer you the job starting on blah blah date,

    please fill in the attatched form and send back to our payroll department asap,any delay in processing your bank details could delay your wages being transferred
  • chavless
    I felt like a detective cat, so i did some digging around.

    I started from the VAT number, which i was quite suripised to be registered to a DOUGLAS GRAY with his company DATATEC - DATA UK.

    It turns out that Douglas used to be a
    surveyor and can speak good arabic. (weblink, i am a new user so add http) uk.linkedin.com/pub/douglas-gray/9/65b/7b0. It seems his profile is just a front, as he now lives in new york city, running this business from there.

    He also runs this company (anotherweblink...)Best4USA.com.

    There is only one business called Datatec Ltd, but why would a company not inculde registered details on a website?

    The address is also linked to Elite Cars (Again, add http) elitecarsuk.co.uk.

    Also, this is not very healthy... his company is selling 5,000 email addresses (inculding mine more then likely) for 69. (Add address)business-box.co.uk/order.html)

    This utterly !!!!es me off, as this tosser has my CV and my Uni Email address... think i will think twice about applying for jobs though the job center in the future....
    Last edited by chavless; 25-08-2010 at 5:34 PM.
    • dacouch
    • By dacouch 25th Aug 10, 5:29 PM
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    dacouch
    Good work chavless, welcome to MSE
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 25th Aug 10, 6:29 PM
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    PasturesNew
    This is the Shopping Genie "opportunity". Check it out here: http://www.articlesbase.com/business-opportunities-articles/my-shopping-genie-toolbar-a-shopping-tool-to-save-money-make-money-or-market-yourself-2238603.html

    If he can get 10,000 people to get that far, then he's got 10,000 people he's potentially earning from ... and I think the salary must be b0ll0x.

    I'll stand corrected.... but that's what my money's on.

    All those people who installed it and sacked it off, will forget it's running on their PC and if they buy the right stuff he'll pocket a few pence per time.

    I'd expect there to be some reason you don't get the job, but if you reach the end of the process, you're also on a list of "people who will follow whatever I say ....." - a valuable list.

    Maybe the 'job' will be withdrawn and they'll then be able to convince you to give it away, to earn money.

    It'll be all about him, anyway, not for your benefit.
  • fubar1010
    I just remembered aswell something...


    The email goes on about "we have recieved your c.v" blah blah "we offer you the oppurtunity to progress" blah blah

    I never sent my c.v to them!!

    So they are offering me oppurtunitys to progress after reviewing my c.v etc
    but they don't even have mine
  • bitzyboo
    thinks you are all wrong
    Well I to have applied for the same position and I am through to the final stages awaiting a face to face interview, I came across this thread when I was researching everything about the company incase I get the interview.

    I was alarmed to read the comments here so I called the UK number I mean I don't know why no one tried that yet! and a very nice chap answered the phone and when I told him about this thread he was quite stunned and annoyed he said it is a legitimate job offer and people should research the company more before applying for the job anyway.......and if they didnt like the recruitment process they didnt need to be part of it.

    I Called this number 0)1367 709385 he really did sound very legit, said douglas was the MD and he couldnt understand why people would come up with 1+1 and get 3.
    • OldGreyFox
    • By OldGreyFox 6th Sep 10, 3:35 AM
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    OldGreyFox
    This is the Shopping Genie "opportunity".
    Originally posted by PasturesNew
    MSG

    See: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=36355481#post36355481
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