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    debeast
    Internet Security and Saving
    • #1
    • 7th Apr 04, 6:09 PM
    Internet Security and Saving 7th Apr 04 at 6:09 PM
    Hi All
    I thought i'd grace you all with my vast wisdom ! on the area of internet security. It is a good money saving tip if you can avoid those nasty dialers, cut down on stupid ads and basically enjoy the freedom of the internet and its fruits (such as this site)

    There are 4 main programs you need for complete security and peace of mind.

    1:- A Firewall
    I use Kerio (http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_home.html) as its free for home use and doesn't contain loads of spyware like ZoneAlarm. Windows XP firewall is no good DO NOT rely on it you have been warned

    2:- A trojan/Dialer/Spyware Detector
    I use Spybot (http://download.com.com/3000-2144-10194058.html?!!!!!lst-0-1) for this. It's a little more advanced than just a dector it actually can activly prevent malicious scripts from running on web pages and much more.

    3:- A virus Checker
    Sound obvious i know but worth having. I use Grisoft (http://www.grisoft.com) as its free and easy to use with regular updates.

    4:- An Ad scanner
    Lots of programs have hidden adware/spyware which can be annoying to say the least. You can remove the ads by using a program like Ad-Aware (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/) This is a lot like Spy bot and between them NOTHING gets left behind.

    All the programs i use are FREE and if you keep them up to date you will never have a problem. The advice is offered free of charge and in good faith, i accept no responcibility for the programs themselves and am in no way connected with any of them

    Hope this helps

    Debeastie

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  • trafalgar
    • #2
    • 7th Apr 04, 6:27 PM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #2
    • 7th Apr 04, 6:27 PM
    Interesting reading
    Cheers ;D
    • MSE Martin
    • By MSE Martin 7th Apr 04, 7:31 PM
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    MSE Martin
    • #3
    • 7th Apr 04, 7:31 PM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #3
    • 7th Apr 04, 7:31 PM
    Yes very interesting - i think i shall 'tip-it' after easter
  • debeast
    • #4
    • 7th Apr 04, 7:59 PM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #4
    • 7th Apr 04, 7:59 PM
    oooh my First Tip placing

    Thank you very much
    I'd like to thank my agent, my parents, my wife, and the magic donkey.


    On a more serious note if you need any help with these apps then drop me a PM

    Debeastie
  • thespacecowboy
    • #5
    • 8th Apr 04, 1:42 AM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #5
    • 8th Apr 04, 1:42 AM

    Another program to add to this is

    SpywareBlaster

    http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html

    This is freeware, and will protect
    Internet Explorer
    Mozilla Firefox/Bird

    from dodgy diallers, bad cookies and other nasty stuff.
    The good thing is it doesn't take up any system resources, you can run it, set protection and then forget it. You do need to update the definitions on it though (simple).

    As debeast said, it is IMPERITIVE that you keep all these programs up to date.
    Maybe set a reminder in your calendar each week to check them.

    Especially with the virus scanner, I would recommend having it download the updates automatically.

    Windows Update

    www.windowsupdate.com

    You should also visit this page every week to make sure you have the latest critical microsoft patches, which can provide a strong defence against new viruses, trojans and worms.
    On that page, you can also set up automatic updates (set it and forget it) which is recommended.

    Incidentally, Windows XP Service Pack 2 (which is officially released soon, on beta at the moment) has automatic updates set as default.

    • Fran
    • By Fran 8th Apr 04, 4:32 PM
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    Fran
    • #6
    • 8th Apr 04, 4:32 PM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #6
    • 8th Apr 04, 4:32 PM
    Debeast -

    I currently use Zonealarm (which is fine) but reading about Kerio I am interested in changing to that. However, they state it is more complicated than Zonealarm. The stuff they talk about on the website is beyond my knowledge - do you think Kerio is only suitable for advanced users or would I be able to work it out with some limited knowledge?

    Also, if I decide to change, can I install it before removing Zonealarm or would I have to uninstall it first?
    • sra
    • By sra 10th Apr 04, 3:30 AM
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    sra
    • #7
    • 10th Apr 04, 3:30 AM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #7
    • 10th Apr 04, 3:30 AM
    Hi

    I was looking for months for the best free protection

    I started with ad-aware
    then spybot
    then spywareblaster
    then Grisoft (AVG)

    AbsoluteShield (does very little but means you can delete cookies from a toolbar button)

    Now I'll try Kerio

    It took ages of searching to find good stuff without spyware and since I'm seeing these names over and over again I'm pleased I seem to have got the best

    p.s. when I looked on the AOL page about spyware even they recomend ad-aware
  • raeble
    • #8
    • 11th Apr 04, 2:37 AM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #8
    • 11th Apr 04, 2:37 AM
    1:- A Firewall
    I use Kerio (http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_home.html) as its free for home use and doesn't contain loads of spyware like ZoneAlarm. Windows XP firewall is no good DO NOT rely on it you have been warned
    Where did you hear that Zone Alarm was full of spyware?

    If you want to stop pop ups you need to change your browser. I currently use mozilla. I don't get any pop ups at all. It's much more secure than IE, it is also regularly updated so you need to keep checking. Also look at Opera
  • debeast
    • #9
    • 13th Apr 04, 7:24 PM
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    • #9
    • 13th Apr 04, 7:24 PM
    Hi All

    Kerio is for more advanced users but it is by no means too complicated.

    After the first install a lot of different programs will ask for access to the internet and other programs will need to be given access to each other, but it is all done by pop up s and is quite simple.

    One golden rule is:
    If in doubt just click No on kerios pop up, and if your program doesn't work then click it again and click yes on kerio's pop up

    I heard via astalavista.box.sk about zone alarm and it does seems to be bloated up with modules that are doing something to the packets other than filtering them.

    BTW the astalavista link is a hackers link and MAY contain pornographic pop-ups so you have been warned. It also happens to be a very good place to get security advice

    Hope that helps
  • Taffy_Boy
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    Once you have your Firewall installed I recommend using the following site to test it

    http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/firewall-test.asp

    It gives you great advice on if your Firewall is protecting your PC correctly and what you can do to address any issues raised, also has some good links to other utilities for protection.

    I would also recommend using an Internet Eraser tool to ensure that any traces of your browsing are removed and not able to be accessed the next time you browse the Web, this deletes Cookies, Information you fill in on forms, etc and stops them being read by other sites. I use advanced Internet Eraser but if anyone has other suggestions I am all ears!!
  • englebert
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    Try http://www.wilders.org/free_tools.htm for a list of free fire walls etc with ratings.

    I also use Kerio, all be it an older version which has a slightly different range of facilities which are no longer in the "free" version.
  • Spikey
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    Hi Guys,

    This thread makes very interesting reading but still leaves me a little confused.

    I have a laptop running on XP with Norton System Works 2004 installed and also Adaware.

    I also have a PC running on ME but no other software installed (like antivirus at the moment)

    Any suggestions.

    Laptop I use mainly whilst PC used by kids.

    Thanx in advance everybody.

    Spikey
  • archived user
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    Hi,

    I use a program called Secretmaker which is free via Download.com. This has Spam/Worm hunter, Banner Blocker, Pop-up killer, Privacy Protector (sends phantoms), Cookie Eraser and History cleaners. It has regular updates, is easy to use and I've had it for about 4 months with no probs.
  • arjunanatha
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    > I use Kerio (http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_home.html) as its free for home use and doesn't contain loads of spyware like ZoneAlarm.

    I was astonished to read this accusation about ZoneAlarm. Indeed, a quick Google confirmed that not only is ZA Kosher, it is also rated the best firewall.

    If you want to check, just search on "zonelarm spyware" or see
    http://www.dslreports.com/faq/492

    http://www.hansenonline.net/Networking/zaspy.html

    http://www.grc.com/zonealarm.htm

    Arjuna
    • TRAVELMAN
    • By TRAVELMAN 15th Apr 04, 10:54 AM
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    TRAVELMAN
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    Fao Debeast!

    Hello....the travel bit is my 'home' so new to this forum.....

    Do you know of any freeware that i can download that is a history eraser-ESPECIALLY the search items put in to say google. I've tried various free progs but none seem to erase the entries on google...ie if I'm searching for Malta & I've previously searched for 'maria from coronation street' (I am sad!) then the 'maria' search entry 'drops' down for all to see!

    Also...as I work from home my company sometimes 'dial-in' & I don't particularly want them to know what I've searched for ...etc-any ideas?

    Chris
  • archived user
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    TRAVELMAN - You don't need any special software. Select tools>Internet Options on your toolbar and you can turn off the Autocomplete which is trying to "guess" what you are entering.
  • debeast
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    Hi there

    Google Fix
    ------------------------------------------
    Not sure of any software that automatically clears the autotext field in google but you can turn it off and stop it remembering by going to
    tools/internet options
    then Content
    then hit autocomplete
    then untick the forms box


    ZoneAlarm
    -------------------------------------------
    In response to the zone alarm query, all i'm saying is that ZA is doing something odd to the packets which are passing through it and it also uploads something to it's server. Read the articals on security at the link i've provided.

    Just remember everyone thought worldcom was a reputable company. Just because the majority of ppl believe it doesn't make it true and vise versa

    thats it.
    hope this helps

    Debeastie
    • TRAVELMAN
    • By TRAVELMAN 15th Apr 04, 11:35 AM
    • 841 Posts
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    TRAVELMAN
    Re: Internet Security and Saving


    Talk about quick response!!!

    Cheers guys!

    Just done the autocomplete bit!

    Can either of you recomend a free history erazer (apparently there is some file in windows that is a system file & can't ever be deleted...but some of the erasers 'overwrite' with a string of 'oooooo's' or useless info?!).

    As said before...our base units sometimes have to go back to have noew software put on ...etc..& one girl who's left the company is convinced that the rumour that she 'swings both ways' (!) was found from this file by the techincal bods when they 'cleared' her computer when it was sent back!

    Cheap holidays for answers (!!)
    Chris
  • archived user
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    Debeast -

    I currently use Zonealarm (which is fine) but reading about Kerio I am interested in changing to that. However, they state it is more complicated than Zonealarm. The stuff they talk about on the website is beyond my knowledge - do you think Kerio is only suitable for advanced users or would I be able to work it out with some limited knowledge?

    Also, if I decide to change, can I install it before removing Zonealarm or would I have to uninstall it first?
    You can easily use Kerio even with limited knowledge.
    For helpful guidance on using Kerio, see:

    http://www.geocities.com/yosponge/firewall.html
    (this is the site for newcomers)

    http://www.blarp.com/faq/faqmanager.cgi?toc=kerio
    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/kerio
    (these sites are for reference or more advanced users)

    I thoroughly recommend Sponge's site, quoted above:
    http://www.geocities.com/yosponge/
    (everyone should read this!)
  • archived user
    Re: Internet Security and Saving
    To Debeast.

    Fairly new at this. ;D Used computers in office but never like this. Only limited knowledge on them but give me Word and I am a wizz!! Have been stung with national numbers while I am surfing and have decided to take your advice. Many thanks. Have downloaded the lot. Hopefully this will keep me safe and promise, I will update regularly!!! [glow=red,2,300][/glow]

    Again, interesting reading and this is my first ever text message on Martin's message board and hopefully not the last.

    Flossy
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