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Results: When are you Going to Las Vegas ?

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    • trets77
    • By trets77 2nd Jul 09, 3:10 PM
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    Las Vegas thread and MSE guide 2009 part 2
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    Las Vegas thread and MSE guide 2009 part 2 2nd Jul 09 at 3:10 PM

    .. is not like other places you might have been, where the Hotels are near to the attractions . in Vegas the Hotels are the attractions. most have a huge casino attached , but if you think thats all there is to the place , you are sorely mistaken .

    in a Family Fortunes style question if you asked 100 people something they associate with Las Vegas , I'd bet you my house the top answer would be "gambling". yet there is so much more.

    This page cannot hope to cover everything , but hopefully should point you towards some good money saving tips

    How to get there

    Las Vegas is 5235 miles from London , with flight times in the region of 10 hours +

    you could book a package from pretty much any online or high street travel agent that would include flights and hotels. however this is a money saving site so we try to beat those prices by booking things separately .Thats not to say a package deal might not be a cheaper option . it's easy to work out if a deal you have been quoted is value for money . If the price of the package (X) is more than the price of the flight via the Airline (A) + the Price of the Resort ( or similar quality resort) listed in the deal links below (B) then why not save money and book things separately .

    so please before you post the question " is this a good deal ? " please work out the following is X>A+B ? . if you are booking in advance there might not be a deal for your hotel yet , but you should be able to get a reasonable idea of prices by looking at current deals, but be sure to factor in any holidays / sporting events / big conventions ect.

    only three airlines at the time of writing operate direct flights to Las Vegas .BMI have now ceased direct flights from Manchester , But BA are starting a daily service out of Heathrow from Oct 2009 .

    Virgin fly everyday from Gatwick airport .however be warned this flight is poor quality IMO. the planes used (747's) are old , with cramped uncomfortable seats arranged in a bad configuration ,

    Virgin's new Airbus A340's planes and service are excellent but they are not on the Las Vegas route !!!

    Make sure you take the Quidco cashback available if you book with Virgin

    Thomas Cook (AKA My travel )fly Wednesdays and Saturdays in summer and Wednesdays only in Winter , again from Manchester. Max jet was operating flights but went bust xmas 2007

    (a note about Thomas Cook flights , the baggage allowance is a very poor 15kg ( upgradeable to 20kg) , and the flights in June + July may well see your flight stopping off at Belfast or Glasgow to pick passengers up , making them not much better than indirect flights that connect in a American city . prices for these flights often get lower the nearer to your dates except in summer ..i.e June till September )

    IMPORTANT UPDATE: British Aiwrays have announced they will start a direct daily flight from Heathrow from October 2009

    should you consider flying indirect there are many choices available , and far too many to cover here, but please be sure you know what you are letting yourself in for . flying times direct are 10 hours plus . you can probably add a few hours on top of that flying indirect .

    Getting a good fare is not straightforward . Factors that can see you getting that good fare are
    be prepared to travel mid week not at the weekends like everyone else.
    look into you flight upto 11 months before you fly if you can.
    Time of year
    most Brits like to take holidays June till September .
    asking advice to regular posters on this site .
    Airline Sales and Offers
    airlines know when people start thinking about booking trips , keeping very regular tabs on the airlines websites for sales and fare reductions is a good idea. also some airlines offer reduced fares for frequent flyer's and members of there flying clubs.MSE members have found good fares by booking before Xmas for the following year , when Xmas is over lots of people start planning their holidays.
    great fares can be had if you a prepared to wait till very close to your chosen dates with My travel .

    before booking you should check that you qualify for entry to the USA under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) . Also from January 2009 you will need to obtain a ESTA ( Electronic System for Travel Authorization ) to board a flight to the USA . you can find info on ESTA here . you can apply for one here

    Where to stay

    The Strip is where most visitors tend to stay , a few casinos worth staying at are slightly off strip and usually have a free shuttle bus to and from the strip.the other main area is called Downtown, where the standard of accommodation is lower ( and cheaper ) than most of the strip.

    if your a first time visitor you really should try to stay on the strip if your budget allows . you can then check out the other areas to see if you would consider them on a return visit.

    A common posted question on the old Las Vegas thread was "where is nice but reasonably priced ". It is a hard question to answer. none of the main strip hotels are likely to make it on to a " Hotels from Hell" show on ITV, but you do get what you pay for. a good starting place is to look at the following link

    anything with a Four star rating is unlikely to displease the Vast majority of people . but a fair few people will probably be happy with something in the Three star bracket and consider the hotel to be nice.

    A word of warning about using Tripadvisor to pick your hotel. there are nearly 300 hotels reviewed on the site meaning good hotels can end up way down the list in the 30's 40's and below . Also the site lists hotels that are in the Las Vegas area , but no where near the strip. South point for example is listed as 8th best reviewed hotel , and is on Las Vegas Boulevard but it is about a 15 min car ride to the heart of strip and is not walkable in any circumstances .

    The Hotels on the strip to be most wary about are unsurprisingly the cheapest. They are Circus Circus , The Stratosphere , The Rivera , Sahara , The IP , Excalibur ,Hooters and The Tropicanna . post for some advice before booking

    There is no set price for the majority of hotel rooms . it's a myth that rooms are given away for next to nothing. rooms are priced on a supply and demand basis . if the hotel is selling rooms at a high price why discount? but if they are not then there is no money to be made from empty rooms.

    prices for your hotel room can vary day to day , let alone week to week. Normal Friday and Saturday night prices are always more expensive than normal weekday prices ( upto 3 times as expensive is not unusual) . other things that can have a big impact on the price you pay to stay at your preferred location are.

    Big sporting events
    Super bowl weekend in January for example or the Rodeo finals at the start of December, March Madness basketball which starts on the 20th in 2008.. also Big Boxing matches

    Large Conventions
    Events like the The Consumer electronics show , can have 150,000 attending . here is a calendar to try to avoid large convention dates

    USA public holidays
    19 Jan Martin Luther King Day.
    16 Feb Presidents' Day.
    25 May Memorial Day.
    4 Jul Independence Day.
    7 Sep Labor Day.
    12 Oct Columbus Day.
    11 Nov Veterans' Day.
    26 Nov Thanksgiving Day

    also special events like Halloween etc can push prices up.

    Popular times
    a lot of this has to do with the weather . July and August are often disliked because of the intense heat. January and December are also quite months ( pools often close down in October till March ) . That said Las Vegas is a year round destination. Many consider the best months to visit as April, May , Sept , and October . Prices for UK flights in traditional UK holiday months of June to Early Sept always seem to much more expensive than April or May ( excluding bank holidays and Easter of course) , yet April and May are better times to visit . By not going in the Traditional UK holiday season , you could save a considerable amount of money on your flight, meaning more money to spend on your hotel.

    finding a good deal on a room usually only requires a small amount of searching. Booking through the Hotels direct has BIG advantages . first you are cutting out the middleman . second all of the hotels operate the same booking policy, that you only need to pay your first nights rate as a deposit and the deposit is 100% refundable if you cancel upto 72 hours before you stay. this is generally the rule with all hotel offers but there are exceptions . Some Luxor offers and other MGM group owned casinos ,offers have recently have been NO REFUND offers and The Rivera charges a small cancellation fee at the time of writing. be sure to check all terms and Conditions before you book to be sure .Offers can become available any time , but generally start appearing 12 weeks before your dates

    There are several websites that list offers and discounts for hotels. remember these sites simply list the deals that Casinos release so there is no need for a flashy website.Unless stated the offers usually take you to a direct booking with the Casino
    The first link you should check/bookmark is the Fatwallet Las Vegas deals thread .

    Other sites to check out are 3e&topic=57.90

    Also some hotels now have Facebook pages , that sometimes have deals on . see post 4

    please be careful about posting on these boards though as some are for the posting of deals only , not for questions on deals etc.

    some deals say they require you to be a member of the Players club to book. usually if you can book it without a players club ID, then they won't generally ask for it at check in.
    FAQ number 4 on the Fatwallet page ( covers this subject well. but the important thing is NOT to bombard the hotel with phone calls and e mails about honoring the booking without a players club card. otherwise they might pull the offer ect ( or tip them off to very thing you are concerned about) . people on this thread have done these type of bookings without being signed up members .. no problem .you can of course join the club before checking in if you want . personally i would not worry , but don't be tempted to call the hotel if you book it and you are worried

    when you have found and booked a hotel , it's a good idea to keep checking the new offers as they come in on the Fatwallet Thread as you might find a better deal for the same dates . If the better offer is for the same hotel , you can probably get the hotel to match the better price under your existing booking by calling them up ( don't forget to use the MSE International call checker !!) . Really good offers may not hang around if there is a lot of interest , so get in early if you see a new one thats a great deal .

    Moving hotels is also a good idea if you find great deals for different blocks of nights , and is not as much hassle as you might think.

    Some people ask if it is better to find a hotel when you arrive , this is most defiantly not a good idea. besides the fact that you need to have your 1st nights stay booked up , to enter the USA under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) , simply showing up at a casino without a booking will almost certainly mean you being charged "Rack Rate " for a room , which is pretty much the most you can end up paying.


    McCarren Airport is right next to the strip . Shuttle Buses operate to all the main casinos . A Taxi is by far the most popular way to get to your hotel though. you can find a good estimate of the fare to your Hotel here
    if your hiring a car you will find directions clearly posted at the airport.
    If you really want to arrive in style why not rent a Limo from the airport , they cost around $50 a hour. If you share with someone off your flight it may work out as much as a Taxi

    Check in
    you can check in from the airport at some Casinos.
    when you check in the clerk will will assign you a room . some rooms of the same class are more desirable than others. Strip Views are always more sought after , as are corner rooms or rooms overlooking a casino attraction ( the Bellagio fountains for example) . also try to get a room that is not situated directly next to a should try to do as much research on the rooms within your casino as possible to find out what to ask for
    Cash is King is Las Vegas.. the following sites give advice on how to try and obtain a upgrade or a better positioned room by tipping the check in clerk using The $20 Trick.This works more often than not , but you may find it harder to get a upgrade by doing this if you have a long stay, or if the hotel is fully booked .Also don't expect to get a Penthouse suite from a standard room booking , you will probably only get one or two steps up the luxury ladder
    note: The MGM Grand is known to be a difficult place to use the $20 trick

    regardless of if you tip of not , if your not happy with the room , complain and get one you are happy with.

    Getting around
    If hiring a car you will have the choice of parking it yourself at the hotel( usually free) or using the Valet service ( a tip is usually given for Valet). The strip is very busy at most times traffic wise .Hiring a car gives you the freedom to explore the many great places to visit around Las Vegas , Like Lake Mead and The Hoover Dam for example , while being able to hop around the strip easily and cheaply

    Taxis are good option for speed and convenience , but cost more than the other methods of getting around the strip. also you cannot flag them down either , you have to get them called for you from the Casino or designated pick up areas . fare guide here

    The Deuce is the local 24 hour bus service and is pretty reasonable.

    $7 is all it costs for a 24 hour pass up and down the strip. be warned though the buses fill up at popular mid strip locations and make it hard to get on at busy times.

    The Monorail runs from MGM Grand to The Sahara .

    full list of prices can be found here while it is certainly fast, clean and comfortable ,the downside is that you have to walk through which ever casino you get off at. Casinos are designed to be difficult places to escape , so it can be a trek to get back to the strip. if your going less than a mile your probably better off walking.

    Strip Trolleys are cheap at $2.50 a ride or $4.50 for a all day pass. however they don't run 24 hours , are not the most comfy ride , and tend to drop you at the back and sides of casinos

    There are also 2 free to ride Monorails . One connects The Mirage with Treasure Island. The Other one connects The Excalibur , Luxor and Mandalay Bay. This one has a interesting set up . If you catch it at The Excalibur it does not stop at the Luxor heading south. The Casino owners don't want you skipping Mandalay Bay , so it only stops at the Luxor on the return North journey .

    There are hundreds upon hundreds of places to eat in Las Vegas. It would be impossible to scratch the surface in terms of recommendations on this Post. however we have started to put together a list of threads in which we give opinions on popular places to eat ..please see post 4

    Las Vegas provides pretty much every price range of food , from practically every type of world cuisine. from headline super pricey Celebrity chefs to cheap pile em high buffets ( and everything in between ) , you will find it in Vegas. so where do you choose to eat ??
    Your casino will almost certainly have more than a few places to eat at. But bare in mind the casino has a captive market so in house restaurants are often more expensive than independent/ off site restaurants . a good resource for dining options is a well researched guide book . i recommend "The Unofficial Guide To Las Vegas " it gives great tips on dining. or you can also find info and deals on this site

    There are still great deals to be had on food if your prepared to search them out. although some deals come and go , a few have been running for many years and should be around when you visit.

    $6.95 steak dinner at Ellis Island
    It's long been a table topper in Las Vegas Advisor's top 10 Vegas Values. a 10 oz Steak with salad , beans and choice of Potato . it's isn't actually on the menu though , you have to ask for it.available 24/7 . Ellis Island also does a highly rated BBQ for a mere $8.99. and thats not all, you can get a voucher for 2 for 1 meals @ Ellis island from either of the coupon books listed in the coupon section below.

    Shrimp Cocktail 99c at Golden Gate
    served from 11am till 2am

    Pasta at California Casino
    at the Pasta Pirate Restaurant

    Breakfast Specials $1.49
    served at Wild Wild West , Wildfire , Gold rush and Magic star. 12 am till 11 am

    Steak and Eggs $3.29
    at Arizona Charlie's Decatur . 24/7

    The most famous of dining options in Las Vegas are the Buffets . for a set price you can eat and drink as much as you want from the food selection available . Again you can choose from the Bargain to the expensive. don,t expect to find a small selection of food , Most buffets offer a huge choice of dishes. The Cravings Buffet in the Mirage for Example has many different stations from around the world , where food can also be cooked to order. Nearly all the Strip casinos have a buffet and it is unlikely you are either going to feel short changed or not find something you enjoy at nearly all of them. From the many many reviews i have read ( and of course the ones i have been too ) a few buffets come up time and time again with top marks. they are
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    Better in my pocket than theirs
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  • julzdyer
    looking at details for a few stags next april, with expedia flying on a thursday to a monday, 4 nights, direct with BA, 4 nights in the bellagio, 603 per person, can someone tell me that this is an amazing deal!!

    only trouble is the 50% deposit to book incase something else comes up better in the mean time

    looks a top deal though
  • tully187villa
    Trets and Ferf gave me some advice back in January and March about my upcoming Honeymoon to Vegas in August, i would like to take the opportunity to give you some appreciation so that you know your advise is valued and share my experience to help others.

    I get married on the 15th August and travel down to Gatwick to spend a night at the Hilton. This is costing around 160 including car parking for 17 days. I aim to get there before 6pm in order to take advantage of the twilight check in - my flight leaves around 9 am on the 17th August 500 with Virgin.

    Hotel bookings:

    17th - 21st Aug (4nts) The Hotel at Mandalay Bay - The Suite (Summer Escape Deal) $107.50 per night
    21st - 23rd Aug (2nts) The Venetian - Luxury Suite $173.31 per night
    23rd 1st Sept (9nts) MGM Grand West Wing King Room $75.04 per night

    I originally had booked The Bellagio at $162.68 per night instead of The Venetian, but obviously later decided that we would perfer to stay at The Venetian.

    I have booked tickets to see The Lion King on the 18th Aug (section D $63 per ticket), Kings of Leon 19th August ($60 per ticket) and Love 23rd Aug (Level B $70.40 per ticket)

    We want to take the heli trip to the canyon but will probably wait till we get to Vegas unless anyone knows of any better deals
    Last edited by tully187villa; 14-07-2009 at 1:15 PM.
    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 14th Jul 09, 1:17 PM
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    Ellis Island food for anyone that may be interested.
    1, The $5.99 Ham and Eggs.
    2, The $3.99 NY Steak and Eggs.
    3, The $11.99 Full Rack of Ribs (from the BBQ)

    Click for a bigger picture.
    Last edited by pebblesmax; 14-07-2009 at 1:20 PM. Reason: Info
    • nvh
    • By nvh 14th Jul 09, 1:25 PM
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    sounds good... especially the hilton which seems a cracking price considering you have the 17 days parking as well! - plus it's directly connected to the terminal that Virgin use so very handy for twilight check-in (you have from 12noon till 9pm for this incidently!)

    if you haven't already, sign up to the HHonors card - it's free and means you get to use a 'special' check-in queue (that's usually shorter!) category&_ref=About

    (you also get points for stays etc, but for us is worth it just to be a queue-beater! )

    the only thing out of everything you say you're doing, that I would possibly question is staying in the West Wing room's on the last sect of your itiniery - HOWEVER, i've never stayed there, this is based purely on what others say - you might be disappointed when comparing to the rooms at venetian + TheHotel. Just a heads-up...

    No matter what tho, enjoy your honeymoon anyways!
    Last edited by nvh; 14-07-2009 at 1:28 PM.
    • luci
    • By luci 14th Jul 09, 1:26 PM
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    Hotel bookings:

    17th - 21st Aug (4nts) The Hotel at Mandalay Bay - The Suite (Summer Escape Deal) $107.50 per night
    21st - 23rd Aug (2nts) The Venetian - Luxury Suite $173.31 per night
    23rd 1st Sept (9nts) MGM Grand West Wing King Room $75.04 per night
    Originally posted by tully187villa
    My only concern with this it the West Wing rooms at the MGM. You are in for a shock, especially coming from the Venetian, as the rooms are TINY!! You would be much better with a Grand Tower room as they are much bigger.

    Funkyfin posted photos of the WW rooms in the previous LV topic and they confirmed what we saw as we passed them.
    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 14th Jul 09, 2:43 PM
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    Trip review.
    I finally got around to writing something up about our trip to Vegas in May/June this year. The people on this trip were me, Tony and, for two weeks, Jobey, Tony’s 26 year old grandson. Jobey had been to the USA before, but never to Vegas, so this trip was slightly different because we had a newbie to show around.

    Flights – These were with Continental. We travelled from Manchester UK, to Las Vegas via Newark. First leg was on a 757-200 and second was on a 737-800. On the way back it was a 757-300 then a 757-200.

    I dinged the bell on the screening thing on the way through security at EWR. I always do because of my hip replacement. Well, they couldn’t find a female TSA person to pat me down, so I had to wait for a long time. I was very concerned that I might miss our connection because I had to wait so long. I started to complain loudly and they finally found someone. I think that they had forgotten about me. Luckily (?) our second flight was delayed slightly, so we caught it with time to spare. Caught up time in the air, so we were only a few minutes late arriving in Vegas.

    Cost for the flights was $992.92 or $496.46/344.50 per person.

    Hotels – we spent a total of 39 nights in Vegas, just short of six weeks. This cost us a total of $1481, or $740.50 per person. Tony is hoping for 7 weeks next year because that is the maximum that he can get travel insurance for. I haven’t decided yet, we’ll see.

    Excalibur –We had a widescreen room in tower 2, which was really handy for the pool. No need to trail through the hotel to get there. Six nights here cost us $356.

    Rio – Our second hotel. Ipanema Tower, pool view. Five nights here cost us $218.

    Flamingo – Our third hotel. We had a standard room facing Flamingo Road. Two nights here was $98. We moved here for the weekend because the Rio was asking silly money for the rooms.

    Rio – Fourth hotel was Rio again. Ipanema Tower, pool view. Six nights here was $376.

    Imperial Palace – Our fifth hotel. Eighteen nights here was $348.

    Golden Nugget – Our sixth hotel. Two nights here was $85.

    Flights and hotel cost us $1237 each, or $31.72 per person per day. Not too shabby since we were there over a big holiday weekend.

    Getting around

    Took a taxi from the airport to Excalibur when we arrived. The driver tried to tunnel us, but I resisted. Fare was $13.80 before tip. That was the only one we took the whole time we were in Vegas.

    Used the shuttles from Rio to Harrah's/Paris and from the Gold Coast/Orleans to Bill’s a few times.

    Hitched a ride from Kiddo (WBTALV) two or three times.

    Our friend Norm took us on a few outings in his car. We went to Death Valley, A hike to a spring in the Red Rocks area and Tony went to see Sin City Kitties at Primm with him too.

    Bought a day pass for the bus a few times and did a lot of walking.

    We had three separate reservations with Dollar. This was for two days, ten days and eight days at various times during our stay. We booked through Netflights, who have the full insurance package required for UK drivers.
    First rental period we had a Subaru Impreza. Second, we had a Jeep Liberty. Third was a Dodge Caliber. These were all by booking the bare minimum economy package.

    Entertainment and attractions

    Checking out casinos - We did more of this than we would normally because Jobey had not seen any of them before. We visited a lot of casinos. Too many to mention, it would be easier to list the ones we didn’t see.

    Fremont Street Experience - Saw a couple of the light shows. Liked Queen the best. Used up all our coins in the slots that still take cash. Didn’t win anything, but after being in Vegas for a while, you tend to get rather a lot of loose change, so it was a fun way to get rid of it and we had a few free drinks too.

    Big Elvis. - Thoroughly enjoyed hearing him singing all the old Elvis standards. Tony likes it when he does those gospel type tunes too.

    Mirage Volcano – Now that this is only in action once every hour, we missed it several times. It was far too warm to stand too close to it; I’ll check it out again in October. At least Jobey finally got to see it.

    Bellagio Fountains - I always like to see a few fountain shows. I think Jobey was impressed.

    Stratosphere Tower - I didn't do any of the rides on there, although Jobey would have liked to go on one if he’d had a companion. There was no way Tony or I would do that. Far too scary for us! The view over the city is spectacular. I still prefer the VooDoo lounge area for nighttime views though.


    Jersey Boys – We got the tickets on an offer that was $99 tickets with a free upgrade to from orchestra seats. I thought the show was great. We both really enjoyed it and I’m looking out for offers for October so we can take the family.

    Nathan Burton – Good early show. I’m not really into magic, but the show was funny too and I did enjoy some of the magic. We had VIP seats and you still couldn’t tell how he did the stunts.

    Blue Man Group – Thanks to Norm for the tickets. He gave them to Tony and Jobey because he had seen the show several times already. I think it would have been too loud for me.

    Sin City Kitties – Tony went to see this with Norm and they both seemed to enjoy it. It’s a burlesque type show and is very entertaining is what Tony said, so I’ll take his word for it.

    Mike Tyson movie at Suncoast – Tony and Jobey went to see this. I just hung out in the casino while they were in there.

    We didn’t get around to any other shows. We had a look at tix4tonite a couple of times, but we couldn’t decide what we wanted to see. We’ll probably be doing a few shows in October with the family, so I wasn’t too bothered about it.


    We mostly ate at buffets, Coffee Shops or Ellis Island. We had the BBQ at Ellis Island four times. It’s currently Tony’s favourite and Jobey really liked it too.

    We had quite a few 2 for 1 and $5 off coupons and used them when we could. The buffets we ate at (in no particular order). Orleans, Rio, Suncoast, Harrah’s, Silverton, Red Rock Station, MSS and Excalibur.

    We also used a couple of certificates. One was for Tacone Flavour Grill in the Miracle mile and the other was for McCormick and Schmick’s just off Flamingo Road East. I would recommend McC & S. They do a mainly seafood menu and it changes daily depending on what fresh fish they have that day. They also have a happy hour menu that is only available at the bar during the afternoon. We’re planning on trying that out next trip. It looked good.


    MSE meet - Our first meet was with posters on - Luci and her husband, Lorraine (Tangobunny) and her husband and Richard (funkyfin) and his wife.
    The plan was to meet before a Big Elvis set and chat for a while, and then watch a bit of his show. Luci and hubby had bought Cher tickets that evening and couldn’t stay long, so it was just the six of us for most of the meet. I’d already met Lorraine in Benidorm earlier this year, and it was nice to put names and faces together with the others.

    777Brewpub with SHF (WBTALV) – We had lunch here one Saturday.

    Tapas at Cafe BaBaReeBa – Tony and I met with B7’s (WBTALV) and his family. Unfortunately, we misjudged the timing for eating earlier in the day (Memorial Day) and had eaten later than planned because there were lines to get in everywhere. We didn’t eat any Tapas; I just had a couple of glasses of Sangria.

    Breakfast at Suncoast
    – Historian, Norm, Tony and I met for breakfast before they on a hike to the Muffins. I just hung around and played a few slots and read my book while I waited for them to return. The traffic on the highway back to Vegas was dreadful. It took us forever to get back.

    VooDoo Lounge – This was a WBTALV meet. We went up to the VooDoo lounge while it was still daylight and watched the sun setting over Vegas and all the lights coming on. I think that is the best sunset view in Vegas. We all had a good time.

    Breakfast at Peppermill – This was a WBTALV meet. There were Pebbles (me) and Tony, Vegasbaby and John, B7’s, Mychal, Kiddo, MrBigPants, Historian and Mel. Sorry if I missed anyone out. I should have made notes.

    Poker/Soccer match
    - This was a WBTALV meet. I was going to play, but I chickened out. Players were Kiddo, Historian, Airball, Cory, Hawaiian Mark, Mr BP, Mel and B7’s. While this was going on Tony and John watched the football match between Barcelona and Manchester United. They were both very unhappy with the result. I kept popping back and forth between poker and football. Alora, Brigette and Mychal turned up during the game.

    Bally’s Tequila lounge. - This was a WBTALV meet. We didn’t spend a lot of time here, maybe an hour or so, because we had a prior engagement to meet with Norm and Andrea for dinner.

    I met with Doxie for a coffee in a small place inside the Flamingo. DonQ and Bunnykat came too and DonQ gave me a signed bookmark to go with his book. It was good to catch up with Doxie again and also to finally meet the author in person. We all had other people to meet, so after chatting for a while we parted ways.


    As some of you know, we don’t do much in the way of gambling. We had coupons for $10 free play at Hard Rock and 2 x $10 at El Cortez. I also had a coupon for $25 free play at Planet Hollywood once I had got one point. I had heard that it was no longer being honoured, but I thought I’d give it a go anyway. I got the free play, no problems at all. Tony likes to run the exact amount of his free play through and then cash out to find out how much he has actually won off the original stake. I don’t know what difference it makes, but he seems to like doing that.

    Didn’t get anywhere with Wizard of Oz this time, Goldfish was OK, but not as good as previous times, my old favourite Texas Tea was quite kind to us but all in all no wins, just quite a bit of play (and $1 drinks) for not much money. I tried the Planet Moolah slot that Zombie mentioned and did quite well with that one too. I have to say my favourite is still Outback Jack.

    I played a little bit of video poker again this time. Tony and Jobey tried it out too. Of course they both did better than me.

    If you got this far, thanks for reading.

    The bits I forgot. On the way back from Death Valley we visited a date farm and had a lovely date milkshake.

    We went to see Fleetwood Mac in the MGM Grand Garden Arena. I got our tickets for $25 from an offer someone posted. That place is huge! We were so far away; we could hardly see a thing. Thank goodness for big screens and good acoustics.

    We went to see Richard MacDonald and his sculptures one day. They were giving out champagne and soft drinks. He came over and started chatting to us and he was a really nice person. He had been in London recently, working with the Royal Ballet, and he was telling us where in Scotland his ancestors were from. Out of nowhere, Tony asked him if he’d considered adoption. He explained that he was an orphan and would like to be adopted. After a moment of disbelief, Mr MacDonald cracked up laughing, thank goodness. I was embarrassed, but I should be used to Tony’s antics by now.
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    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 14th Jul 09, 3:17 PM
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    Golden Nugget Our sixth hotel. Two nights here was $85.
    Originally posted by pebblesmax
    Hi Elaine - thanks so much for taking the time to put that together! I'm still so jealous of your long trips - maybe some day!

    Can I ask how you found staying downtown? Part of me thinks I would like to try it for a night, but Jamie is not understanding is the GN is the nicest of the properties so would be grateful for any feedback.
  • TangoBunny
    Hi all.....just checking in to see how we all are....not been around for a problems which I wont go into at the moment.....
    Just got back from a week in Tenerife....last minute thing took my 18 year old daughter with us was hot hot hot but not so hot as Vegas
    • pebblesmax
    • By pebblesmax 14th Jul 09, 3:26 PM
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    The GN room was lovely, as was the pool area. I'll see if I have some pictures for you. We thought it was a nice change of pace from the strip, and would definitely stay at GN again. It's quite nice casino hopping with no walking involved. We ate at MSS and Fremont while we were there. We also wandered down to El Cortez. That area is really much improved on what it used to be and they have some more of the old neon up there too.

    We stayed downtown a few years ago at Fitzgerald's and I really didn't like it there. Being comfortable with your hotel has a lot to do with that I think. We were definitely happy at GN.
  • tully187villa

    sounds good... especially the hilton which seems a cracking price considering you have the 17 days parking as well! - plus it's directly connected to the terminal that Virgin use so very handy for twilight check-in (you have from 12noon till 9pm for this incidently!)

    if you haven't already, sign up to the HHonors card - it's free and means you get to use a 'special' check-in queue (that's usually shorter!) category&_ref=About

    (you also get points for stays etc, but for us is worth it just to be a queue-beater! )

    the only thing out of everything you say you're doing, that I would possibly question is staying in the West Wing room's on the last sect of your itiniery - HOWEVER, i've never stayed there, this is based purely on what others say - you might be disappointed when comparing to the rooms at venetian + TheHotel. Just a heads-up...

    No matter what tho, enjoy your honeymoon anyways!
    Originally posted by nvh
    My only concern with this it the West Wing rooms at the MGM. You are in for a shock, especially coming from the Venetian, as the rooms are TINY!! You would be much better with a Grand Tower room as they are much bigger.

    Funkyfin posted photos of the WW rooms in the previous LV topic and they confirmed what we saw as we passed them.
    Originally posted by luci
    Thanks for the advise i have joined HHonours and will keep an eye out for a deal that can compete with my MGM booking price wise.

    Failing that i will have to try the 20 dollar trick when booking in
    • davidmcg2u
    • By davidmcg2u 14th Jul 09, 5:37 PM
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    I just did this but cannot find where t enter the code?
    Originally posted by daz100
    When you go into the payment page there is a small link at the top which says either voucher or promo - click on it & it will open up a box.

    Took me a bit of time to figure it out.
    Last edited by davidmcg2u; 14-07-2009 at 5:58 PM.

    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 14th Jul 09, 8:06 PM
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    if you haven't already, sign up to the HHonors card - it's free and means you get to use a 'special' check-in queue (that's usually shorter!) category&_ref=About

    (you also get points for stays etc, but for us is worth it just to be a queue-beater! )
    Originally posted by nvh
    Also remember you get Virgin miles in addition to HH points.
    illegitimi non carborundum
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 14th Jul 09, 8:46 PM
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    this is bizzare - someone drove off the edge of the Grand Canyon right where we stayed last October! on_7&lid=NewsYourWay_ARTICLE_15337370_Grand_Canyon _Death%3A_Man_Drives_Car_Over_South_Rim_And_Is_Kil led
    • karie
    • By karie 14th Jul 09, 9:14 PM
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    hello everyone

    firstly, this thread is a wealth of knowledge, i am in awe.

    looking for some advice - first time to go to vegas and we are hoping to go for about 8 - 10 nights in september/october.

    normally i would book everything myself online, but i got a quote from dial-a-flight earlier today who offered me the following:

    flights from heathrow with KLM (2 persons) flying out 25 september, flying back 3rd oct, 378 per person

    8 nights accommodation in circus circus for 245

    in total this comes to about 1000 which sounds really good.

    i have read some bad reviews about circus circus, is it all that bad??

    does this seem like a good price in total or should i keep shopping around?

    • luci
    • By luci 14th Jul 09, 9:20 PM
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    Is the price for Circus Circus per person or for both of you?

    CC is at the far north of the strip and it gets a bad rap. Have a look at the Imperial Palace. It's centre strip and shouldn't be much more.

    Actually, check and click on Hot Deals. I make the IP $430 + 12% tax which is 297 for the room, not each.

    ** Edit - The IP rates are higher than normal for the weekend so I would expect them to come down and if they do you can call and get the lower rate.
    Last edited by luci; 14-07-2009 at 9:23 PM.
    • crow99
    • By crow99 14th Jul 09, 9:41 PM
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    I've had a look and if you changed your dates to September 22nd - Wednesday 30th this will give you flights with KLM as 747.

    This would leave you 253 to spend on your hotel and still meet the same price, based on $1.6 to the which is Caxtons base rate it would leave you $405 for your hotel.

    I've had a quick look at The Luxor is avaliable for $450 so not much more - its far more central strip and a lot nicer hotel against Circus Circus - this is using a Fat Wallet Promo Code of LRATE9

    Personally I wouldnt consider Circus Circus or The Stratosphere particularly not for eight nights. The location isn't ery good as they really are a long walk from everywhen and Circus Circus felt very tired and a bit sleazy against the other hotels - ok to visit but I wouldnt spend 8 nights there.

    We went out last year on planned on Circus Circus I'm glad I paid a bit more and got a great deal on the Bellagio!

    Check these FatWallet Promo Codes
    • crow99
    • By crow99 14th Jul 09, 9:44 PM
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    Monte Carlo is $508 based on Promo Code JULYTIER
    I would recommend this from a location perspecitve and although is $100/62 more you'll save that in Cabs etc..

    Excalibar have a tower room for $438
    Again I would go for this over Circus Circus - Monte Carlo would be what I would spend my money on mind!
    Last edited by crow99; 14-07-2009 at 10:06 PM.
    • luci
    • By luci 14th Jul 09, 9:49 PM
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    I snapped up the Bally's $79 for 2 nights offer as soon as it appeared. I thought it was a mistake that it was only $39.50/night for the big fight weekend.

    I've just checked and my 2 nights are now $199 and $219!!
    • karie
    • By karie 14th Jul 09, 10:14 PM
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    thanks everyone

    we are a bit restricted on dates but dont mind spending a little more rather than staying somewhere not so good! i will look at the places you have recommended and let you know how i get on!!

  • tingtong
    flights from heathrow with KLM (2 persons) flying out 25 september, flying back 3rd oct, 378 per person

    8 nights accommodation in circus circus for 245

    in total this comes to about 1000 which sounds really good.

    i have read some bad reviews about circus circus, is it all that bad??

    does this seem like a good price in total or should i keep shopping around?

    Originally posted by karie
    Well, you can get the flights for 354 each on Opodo / Expedia so that will save you 48. You should be able to get better accommodation than Circus Circus for about the 300 mark, somewhere like Imperial Palace (as suggested above) is in a far better location.

    Although I don't like doing it myself, I would not dismiss the thought of staying in 2 different hotels for your trip. If you do this try and get the better hotel for the second part if you can !
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