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    • HappyUser
    • By HappyUser 8th Jun 19, 10:54 PM
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    Why all breads are so sweet?
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    Why all breads are so sweet? 8th Jun 19 at 10:54 PM
    Most breads I take from the supermarkets are ridiculously sweet. I usually take the wholemeal but pretty much everything seems extremely sweet almost like cake.


    Is there any brand that the bread is actually not sweet?
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    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 9th Jun 19, 2:29 AM
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    Homemade is good. I generally make my own now as I too found ordinary shop-bought wasn't very nice, rather "claggy" and tasteless. I do though occasionally buy the Hovis Seed Sensations.
    • sarah1972
    • By sarah1972 9th Jun 19, 6:54 AM
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    Another vote for homemade or try your local baker.

    When you say you take bread from the supermarket, I assume you mean that you buy it
    :-)
    Last edited by sarah1972; 09-06-2019 at 7:00 AM.
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    • By VfM4meplse 9th Jun 19, 7:06 AM
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    Most breads I take from the supermarkets are ridiculously sweet. I usually take the wholemeal but pretty much everything seems extremely sweet almost like cake.
    Originally posted by HappyUser
    I ate some brioche the other day think it was a normal white roll (that in itself would be rare occurrence) and it was delicious

    Is there any brand that the bread is actually not sweet?
    Originally posted by HappyUser
    Generally anything super-seedy is ok, albeit loaded with hidden salt.
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    • By PLRFD 9th Jun 19, 7:35 AM
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    Another vote for homemade or try your local baker.

    When you say you take bread from the supermarket, I assume you mean that you buy it
    :-)
    Originally posted by sarah1972
    Local bakers are like rocking horse doo doo.
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    • By sarah1972 9th Jun 19, 8:11 AM
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    Local bakers are like rocking horse doo doo.
    Originally posted by PLRFD
    We have 3 local to me.
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    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 9th Jun 19, 9:14 AM
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    Most breads I take from the supermarkets are ridiculously sweet. I usually take the wholemeal but pretty much everything seems extremely sweet almost like cake.

    Is there any brand that the bread is actually not sweet?
    Originally posted by HappyUser
    Because modern/ commercial/ factory bread proves for a short time compared to traditional/ homemade bread. Extra sugar and extra gluten ('strong') are needed to speed the process up. Saves them time = money, plus makes a larger softer loaf .... and the customer pays for extra air.

    A longer prove means the yeast consume all the starter sugar and get to work on the flour. Could try wholemeal flatbreads, or sourdough from a small bakery, or homemade bread with many of the MSE 'Old Style' regulars.

    HTH!
    Last edited by Fire Fox; 09-06-2019 at 9:16 AM.
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    • z1a
    • By z1a 9th Jun 19, 1:24 PM
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    Because modern/ commercial/ factory bread proves for a short time compared to traditional/ homemade bread. Extra sugar and extra gluten ('strong') are needed to speed the process up. Saves them time = money, plus makes a larger softer loaf .... and the customer pays for extra air.

    A longer prove means the yeast consume all the starter sugar and get to work on the flour. Could try wholemeal flatbreads, or sourdough from a small bakery, or homemade bread with many of the MSE 'Old Style' regulars.

    HTH!
    Originally posted by Fire Fox
    How does the customer pay extra for air? Loaves are sold by weight.
    • Farway
    • By Farway 9th Jun 19, 1:42 PM
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    How does the customer pay extra for air? Loaves are sold by weight.
    Originally posted by z1a
    Do keep up, the law changed in 2008, there is not any requirement to sell or conform by weight.
    Any thing goes, and if you can make loaf shaped lump of 90% air that is lawful to sell
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    • By z1a 9th Jun 19, 2:22 PM
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    Do keep up, the law changed in 2008, there is not any requirement to sell or conform by weight.
    Any thing goes, and if you can make loaf shaped lump of 90% air that is lawful to sell
    Originally posted by Farway
    Didn't realise that had changed. I sit corrected.
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 9th Jun 19, 4:01 PM
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    Do keep up, the law changed in 2008, there is not any requirement to sell or conform by weight.
    Any thing goes, and if you can make loaf shaped lump of 90% air that is lawful to sell
    Originally posted by Farway
    Even so, most commercial loaves found on supermarket shelves are still sold in standard sizes: either 800g or 400g and as a consumer who buys YS bread when I see it, I certainly do not feel that I am being hoodwinked.

    All your post has done is put me off "artisan" breads.
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    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 9th Jun 19, 4:20 PM
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    How does the customer pay extra for air? Loaves are sold by weight.
    Originally posted by z1a
    Supermarket psychology.

    Brits do not consistently compare products by stated weight or edible volume. We see a large/ small/ medium 'whatever' and grab it, or we see X meals worth based on the manufacturer's portion size.

    How much 'shrinkflation' do manufacturers get away with by tweaking the packaging or shape of the product? Toblerone, crisps.

    Commercial ice cream is pumped full of air. As are many breakfast cereals. Froth on coffee. What they cannot add air to they add water to: more ice cubes than soft drink, bacon, chicken breasts ....

    MSE regulars are arguably more savvy than average, but most of us are fooled by something. If we check weight/ volume/ additives/ price (I do) we miss other key information. A yellow or orange sticker and I slacken my basic animal welfare principles. Or I half-clock a welfare 'symbol' but fail to read the small print.
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    • silverwhistle
    • By silverwhistle 9th Jun 19, 9:44 PM
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    All your post has done is put me off "artisan" breads.
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse

    I think that is called cutting off your nose to spite your face.



    Continue to buy what you want, whether for taste or filling up your tum, but don't blame artisan breads for the crapness of the Chorleywood process.


    I'll continue to make my own, and if the occasional loaf comes out a bit brick like it always makes cracking toast! I made a couple of ciabattas on Friday and with a little help they've both disappeared. I made the starter the night before, and the longer fermentation helps both the taste and the digestibility. Not much extra work which is mostly done by the yeast whilst I do other things.
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 9th Jun 19, 10:09 PM
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    totallyy agree, home made bread is so much better for you then the supermarket breads

    If I eat two slices of white, toasted, for breakfast my dressing gown belt will be cutting into me before I get back up the stairs

    It doesnt happen with HM bread
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    • Spider In The Bath
    • By Spider In The Bath 13th Jun 19, 7:25 PM
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    totallyy agree, home made bread is so much better for you then the supermarket breads

    If I eat two slices of white, toasted, for breakfast my dressing gown belt will be cutting into me before I get back up the stairs

    It doesnt happen with HM bread
    Originally posted by suki1964
    Exactly the same with me.

    Most shop made bread gives me stomach ache and can make me look like a pregnant hippo.

    Never happens with homemade bread.
    • HappyUser
    • By HappyUser 14th Jun 19, 7:11 PM
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    It's confirmed: Marks & Spencer breads are all horrible
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 14th Jun 19, 7:25 PM
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    It's confirmed: Marks & Spencer breads are all horrible
    Originally posted by HappyUser
    Noooo...!

    The date and walnut is so delicious, I could eat a whole boule at a time!
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    • sarah1972
    • By sarah1972 15th Jun 19, 6:13 AM
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    It's confirmed: Marks & Spencer breads are all horrible
    Originally posted by HappyUser

    Have you honestly tried ALL the varieties of M&S breads ?

    Their Olive bread is to die for
    Their sourdough is lovely
    Their stone baked seeded bread is amazing
    Last edited by sarah1972; 15-06-2019 at 6:16 AM.
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    • Sharon87
    • By Sharon87 16th Jun 19, 6:03 PM
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    Does the OP live in the USA? If you think UK breads are sweet you should eat theirs! I remember going round the supermarket trying to find bread without added sugar, took ages! I can't taste any sweetness in the main loaves in the UK, I know there's some sugar in it, but I can't personally taste it.
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 16th Jun 19, 10:06 PM
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    Does the OP live in the USA? If you think UK breads are sweet you should eat theirs! I remember going round the supermarket trying to find bread without added sugar, took ages! I can't taste any sweetness in the main loaves in the UK, I know there's some sugar in it, but I can't personally taste it.
    Originally posted by Sharon87
    Agreed, it's not good.

    Food in the US is either amazing or astonishingly bad.
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