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  • Zanderman
    Zanderman Posts: 4,683 Forumite
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    bigadaj wrote: »
    Or it's the corporate view of social media engagement whereby they are reaching out, but in actual fact little will be done.

    Very possibly!!

    But if Nest want those transfers in they need to help people achieve it.

    So actually it would make corporate sense for something to be done.

    But as they haven't sorted this out already perhaps they don't have any corporate sense?
  • datlex
    datlex Posts: 2,239 Forumite
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    Be interesting to see how long it takes them to answer. I had to ask the same question (different to the one here) on their website three times before I could actually get to the answer I wanted.
    Paid off the last of my unsecured debts in 2016. Then saved up and bought a property. Current aim is to pay off my mortgage as early as possible. Currently over paying every month. Mortgage due to be paid off in 2036 hoping to get it paid off much earlier. Set up my own bespoke spreadsheet to manage my money.
  • Malchester
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    No answers from NEST yet - that says something. Why come on here if they are not going to give answers?
  • Malthusian
    Malthusian Posts: 10,941 Forumite
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    Patience, everyone, the relevant team clearly has a 20 working day tunaround :rotfl:
  • mark1959
    mark1959 Posts: 553 Forumite
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    To be fair, the cricket's started. :D
  • NEST_Pensions
    NEST_Pensions Posts: 12 Organisation Representative
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    mark1959 wrote: »
    Why does nest insist on signed forms of identification when other pension providers accept I am who I am? Not only that, but signed by certain professions but not others? And not even retired ones. It's all very 1920's.
    Also, is it possible to draw an amount out each year under flexible drawdown it may be called, where 25% of the amount I draw out is tax free, the other subject to tax? The web site doesn't mention this, but then my main pension provider [Sanlam] discouraged this also, :(

    Apologies for our delayed response to your post. It is correct that we require evidence from members for account changes. For security reasons, and in the member’s interest, it is important that we confirm someone’s identity before we make changes to their account. Unlike many other types of pension schemes, identity verification is not done when members are enrolled into an auto enrolment scheme. The data is sent to us by the employer.

    In response to your question about drawdowns, for more information about how you can take your money out of NEST, go to:
    https://www.nestpensions.org.uk/schemeweb/NestWeb/public/memberhelpcentre/contents/how-can-i-take-my-money-out-of-nest.html
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official representative of NEST. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com"
  • NEST_Pensions
    NEST_Pensions Posts: 12 Organisation Representative
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    Zanderman wrote: »
    Hi Nest Pensions, good to see you back on MSE (and officially this time!)

    The questions below (already mentioned by others above) are adapted from my post on another NEST thread here:http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5733909 (still unanswered... )

    Could you address the problems people are reporting regularly re NEST - which relate to transfers in. You, NEST, insist on the previous pension provider filling in a form whereas the convention is that the previous pension provider expects you, NEST, to fill in a form.

    There are reports on this forum that this approach goes on for months, with both sides blaming the other. Do NEST have any comment and/or a solution to this?

    Here are three other threads about this:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5731390
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5665098
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5732027
    dunstonh wrote: »
    I will just clarify that as its linked to my comment further up.

    Most providers do not fill in discharge forms. In fact nowadays, most providers don't need discharge forms at all as they use the origo options system for transfers.

    However, where one side or both do not use that system, discharge forms are still usually required but only for the client signature. The discharge forms still usually have the boxes for completion by the receiving scheme but no provider fills them in (although some have just moved to a request to transfer form which is usually no more than a single side of A4 with a couple of sentences). The providers issue each other with all the details that each other needs to complete the transfer (like a data sheet).

    NEST is virtually unique in insisting that the other provider writes in handwriting all that info from the datasheet onto the NEST form and sign it. Most providers refuse to that as it is time-consuming and expensive. Although, NEST just borrows money from taxpayers. So, efficiency is not likely to be its strong point.
    dunstonh wrote: »
    Why do NEST insist on completion of discharge forms by providers when no other pension provider out there does the same?

    This issue has popped on the forum several times. Providers won't fill them in. Nest insists on it and you get deadlock. Completion of discharge forms is very 1990s. Is it about time NEST stopped creating this block?

    Hi there,

    Firstly thanks for your posts. Your feedback on transfers, along with similar feedback from other customers, has been very valuable, and timely. It’s been an important topic of discussion within NEST too. NEST is a relative newcomer to handling transfers (less than a year) so we appreciate there is room for improvement. To this end, we’ve already kicked off a review of our processes, and customer feedback like yours, will be an important input to that.

    One further point relating to the post, specifically the comment: “ … insisting that the other provider writes in handwriting all that info from the datasheet onto the NEST form and sign it …” – it’s true that we ask other pension providers to add their details to the Transfer-in request form, however if the provider provides these details in their own format (instead of using our form), that’s fine, we just request that the member does the following:

    1.reads through the information the provider has given to make sure its accurate and they still want to go ahead with the transfer into NEST.

    2.reads and signs the ‘Member declaration’ on our Transfer-in request form and sends this to NEST along with the information the other provider has given.

    Further information about transfers is available at: https://www.nestpensions.org.uk/schemeweb/NestWeb/public/memberhelpcentre/contents/how-can-i-transfer-money-in-or-out-of-nest.html

    Thanks.
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official representative of NEST. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com"
  • NEST_Pensions
    NEST_Pensions Posts: 12 Organisation Representative
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    datlex wrote: »
    Why when using the increased premiums form to predict effect of increases in contributions, does it not allow you to put multiple increases? We know that there are increases to come (statutory minimums). Given that you don't have to put in these minimums into the increase it would suggest these are not taken account of.

    Are you referring to our pensions calculator? If yes, you are right to point out our existing calculator does not take into account the phased % statutory increases in contributions. The Money Advice Service provides this calculator, which does show the breakdown of the impact of the increasing minimum contributions
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official representative of NEST. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com"
  • hyubh
    hyubh Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    Unlike many other types of pension schemes, identity verification is not done when members are enrolled into an auto enrolment scheme. The data is sent to us by the employer.

    Without wishing to make an opinion about the overall intent (maybe other schemes are overly lax), how is that different from any other occupational scheme...?
  • NEST_Pensions
    NEST_Pensions Posts: 12 Organisation Representative
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    Malchester wrote: »
    No answers from NEST yet - that says something. Why come on here if they are not going to give answers?
    Malthusian wrote: »
    Patience, everyone, the relevant team clearly has a 20 working day tunaround :rotfl:
    mark1959 wrote: »
    To be fair, the cricket's started. :D

    Hi there, we have now responded to the posts on the subject of transfers. Thanks
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official representative of NEST. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com"
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