Reduction of Dividend Allowance?
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AnotherJoe wrote: »You missed the "or" before my "dim" statement. That's the "very wealthy or as dim....AnotherJoe wrote: »the money saved by the chancellor going to other places instead, such as, IIRC. extra social care.
(and the Essex wide boy car salesman Hammond gets a knighthood?)“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
Glen_Clark wrote: »You missed the point that they might not be either
Depends on your definition of 'wealthy' ; lets say for the purposes of this discussion, mine is ;
anyone who can fill a cash ISA up every year and then complain about not being able to add tens of £thousands into tax sheltered dividend paying investments as well, every year.
If there's another category in this respect, (other than wealthy or financially dim), I'm all ears.0 -
That used to be said about Cameron and proved to be rubbish. Have you got any evidence on Hammond?
I'm sure I read some years ago there were several ministers who used offshore schemes, including Hammond.
http://www.itcontractor.com/andrew_mitchell_uses_patrician_offshore_companies/0 -
AnotherJoe wrote: »Depends on your definition of 'wealthy' ;
Now you are backtracking and changing 'very wealthy' to just 'wealthy' which says it all“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
If there's another category in this respect, (other than wealthy or financially dim), I'm all ears.
I appreciate this is the savings/investing forum but the dividend allowance also applies to those of us who are taking dividends from limited companies as our income.
I am one such person.
I do not consider myself wealthy (I'm a basic rate taxpayer).
I am also not financially dim (using the 45.8% relief on my salary sacrifice and paying 7.5% on the divs).
So some basic rate tax payers will have to pay an extra £225 from 2018 and that could be people earning as little as £11K PAYE and £5K dividends, which is no-ones definition of wealthy.0 -
My wife and I have some shares which we have held for many years and were getting the dividends re-invested. However, having taken early retirement we now get the dividend payments in cash.
At the moment we get about £1,600 each per year, so I guess we are okay as we are within the new £2K limit from 2018?0 -
I appreciate this is the savings/investing forum but the dividend allowance also applies to those of us who are taking dividends from limited companies as our income.So some basic rate tax payers will have to pay an extra £225 from 2018 and that could be people earning as little as £11K PAYE and £5K dividends, which is no-ones definition of wealthy.Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.0
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My wife and I have some shares which we have held for many years and were getting the dividends re-invested. However, having taken early retirement we now get the dividend payments in cash.
At the moment we get about £1,600 each per year, so I guess we are okay as we are within the new £2K limit from 2018?0 -
Dividends aren't just about savings and investment income, standard way for closed company owner / shareholders to take income.
The reduction in dividend allowance is probably to target those who work through limited companies in the same way the NI class 4 rise targeted sole traders.
Also don't expect that 7.5% rate to stay untouched for long !
There's a lot of scope to raise the 7.5%. To compare marginal total tax rate of employment vs profit from ltd company.
Lower Rate (20%): 40% vs 26%
Higher Rate (40%): 49% vs 46%0 -
I see the debate is hotting up in the usual way. I think the conclusion is you should not introduce something with great fanfare which gets significantly reduced in a short time later (in HMRC terms). At a time of massive debt and trying to reduce the deficit 5K seemed extremely generous to me in the first place, especially with more and more personal companies using dividends to replace income tax etc. Why not start with 1k like the savings interest and see how revenues progress?0
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