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    pedalpower
    ParkingEye/Court
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    • 27th Aug 13, 2:00 PM
    ParkingEye/Court 27th Aug 13 at 2:00 PM
    Hello All,
    After receiving a PE ticket early in the year, I visited this and other forums for advice and watched the Watchdog video. The advice overwhelmingly was to ignore all further communication, wait for certain forms to arrive and it'll go away. Well, as per my title, it hasn't. The charge is for overstaying in a 3 hour car park that didn't require a parking ticket.

    Assuming it's still possible, can anyone either give advice as to my next step ie. the writing of a defence and reply to the Court or, point me to a concise thread that does so? I have read some updated threads but can't find one that relates to this specifically. There appears to have been a sea-change as to the action/reaction for these tickets since early 2013?

    Persumably I can do all this by post and not have to travel to Northampton?

    Thanks for your time.
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  • Hovite
    I have to say, I'm now suspicious. The OP seems very up with current process and the use of the phrases "N1" and "NC1" suggests they need no advice from here !
  • pedalpower
    It's a bit odd you're so desperate to prove your identity. So what if some random stranger on the internet doesn't believe you?

    ETA:
    By odd I don't mean I think you're a PPC stooge, just odd in general.
    Originally posted by Orrin
    I wouldn't say desperate but felt it was a way to negate the posts by spacey2012. He stated he knew I was working for PE and my identity. Therefore, proving my identity would show otherwise. I notice he hasn't done as he promised and posted any of the facts he claimed to be in possession of.
    TBH I couldn't give a toss whether he believes me or not apart from the fact that -
    a) Anyone reading this thread who happens to be in my position but not of such strong character, is going to be put off getting help here immediately because of his unsubstantiated and rude posts.
    b)Anyone believing or even suspicious about the drivel he's written is less likely to help and give me the accurate information I require.
    c) As a result of his accusations and personal attack on my character I intend to prove him wrong and get an apology.
  • pedalpower
    I have to say, I'm now suspicious. The OP seems very up with current process and the use of the phrases "N1" and "NC1" suggests they need no advice from here !
    Originally posted by Hovite
    The 'phrases' as you describe them are written on the form, Sherlock.
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 28th Aug 13, 10:46 PM
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    Guys Dad
    Getting back to the original post, have you now got sufficient information or is there anything else you need?
  • pedalpower
    Getting back to the original post, have you now got sufficient information or is there anything else you need?
    Originally posted by Guys Dad
    Thanks Guys Dad. Been busy at the beach as my young grandson is staying Going to read some more and I'll get back to you.
  • pedalpower
    Guys Dad,
    I've tried to PM you the same short message twice but nothing shows in my 'sent box'. Do they only show once read or am I not allowed to PM yet as a ' Newbie'?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 30th Aug 13, 12:57 AM
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    Coupon-mad
    Sometimes there's a delay in them showing I think, in the sent box.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • pedalpower
    Sometimes there's a delay in them showing I think, in the sent box.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Thnk you. Thought that may be the case as it is with a cycling forum I frequent.
  • pedalpower
    Just popped back to say that, with the kind help of a couple of kind minded chaps on here, I acknowledged the Court papers and have submitted a short, relevant, defence.

    Awaiting next stage and will update as we go along for others benefit.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 2nd Oct 13, 1:31 AM
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    Coupon-mad
    Now's the time to move on to those assertive complaints then to whoever contracted PE there, or Retail Managers there, landowner, etc.:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4766249

    Five of the PE cases there were cancelled (all recently) after court papers were issued.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • pedalpower
    UPDATE

    Short version -

    It's taken a while but finally had my PE Court case dropped by going direct to the store manager (Dunelm, Plymouth) with statements showing we are return customers. I took statements as I had no receipts for the day in question having paid cash.

    Longer version - (to convince people in my situation not to give up)

    * As was advice at the time, ignored all PE corres' since day of 'charge' which was Dec' 12.

    * On receiving CC papers replied as and when necessary, up to and including submitting my defence.

    * Phoned Dunelm customer services as I thought they'd be the ones to sort this out. Told they couldn't help as it had gone as far as Court and I had no receipt for the day.

    * Next day phoned again, spoke to the same person and asked to speak to a manager. One phoned me back and was totally useless. Same excuse and not bothered that I was a customer. Didn't realise at all the relationship between their company and PE. Gave her a piece of my mind!

    * When I'd calmed down I decided to approach the store. Went and explained to the lovely and understanding manager, having first been put in touch with her by the very helpful instore customer services. Produced some statements a few days later and she sent an an email on my behalf. Initially she sent it direct to PE but it somehow arrived back with Dunelm customer services. Had an email from them saying they were looking into it. Funnily enough, it was from the first person I had spoken to!

    * After a few weeks got an email saying it was being withdrawn. Then got the begging letter from PE for costs. Made another call and this was quashed the same day.

    * Received an email stating PE had withdrawn the Court case. Checked with Court -no they hadn't. Another email and told that they will be, but they send them in bulk

    * Discontinued as of today.

    My thanks to Guys dad, Coupon-mad, bargepole and Lynnzer.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 24th Oct 13, 10:20 PM
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    Coupon-mad
    That's such a great result and I will now add your thread to the complaints sticky of course! Another small claim bites the dust!

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Non rule breaker
    Hounded by Parking Eye--Beware
    I received a parking fine from the evil Parking Eye last December for overstaying in a Wickes car park, and having read all the blogs and Watchdog advice, I ignored it and did not enter into any correspondence with them.
    I have just received a Judgement for Claimant (in Default) stating that if I ignore this demand for 85 plus 65 court costs, enforcement proceedings will be taken against me and I will have a CCJ taken out against me. I took it all to CAB and they said I should pay it so I (very reluctantly) have!! I just felt I should warn everyone that Parking Eye seem to be becoming more aggressive. Can't believe they have been hounding me for over a year. Needless to say I shall never give Wickes my custom in future!
    • bargepole
    • By bargepole 24th Dec 13, 5:18 PM
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    bargepole
    Nobody here would have advised you to ignore genuine court papers, which you clearly did.

    Everybody here would have advised you not to go to the CAB for advice, as they are next to useless when it comes to private parking issues.

    All the advice for newbies is posted on the stickies, where it says start your own thread, don't dig up one which is months old.

    It would appear that you are unable to follow simple instructions, and are paying the price.

    I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 40, lost 11), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and am a Graduate member of CILEx, studying towards a Fellowship (equivalent to solicitor) in Civil Litigation. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
    • SimonSays
    • By SimonSays 24th Dec 13, 5:20 PM
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    SimonSays
    Get yourself over to Pepipoo, they are more suited to things like this. They can get you on the right track
  • lilygrace1
    Just thought I would let you know, I had a parking eye 100 fine through yesterday for Dunelm Mill, Friary Park (as above). After doing lots of research on here and the useful post from Pedal Power, I went to to Dunelm Mill with it. They were very apologetic, took all my details and promised to email Parking Eye and get it cancelled. I asked them to copy me in on the email. I could have gone down the whole appeal route but figured why the hell should I waste my time? I overstayed 14 minutes in a free car park whilst spending money in their shop!!
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 25th Feb 14, 1:14 PM
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    Coupon-mad
    Just thought I would let you know, I had a parking eye 100 fine through yesterday for Dunelm Mill, Friary Park (as above). After doing lots of research on here and the useful post from Pedal Power, I went to to Dunelm Mill with it. They were very apologetic, took all my details and promised to email Parking Eye and get it cancelled. I asked them to copy me in on the email. I could have gone down the whole appeal route but figured why the hell should I waste my time? I overstayed 14 minutes in a free car park whilst spending money in their shop!!
    Originally posted by lilygrace1
    That's good news and it follows all our other Successful complaints I collate here:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4766249

    I have added yours (see if you can spot it among all the other Parking Eye complaints!). Also as you will have seen from this thread, Dunelm Mill have previously cancelled a charge after PE issued Court papers so they have a good track record as shown on this forum.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • ledsons teeth
    I received a parking fine from the evil Parking Eye last December for overstaying in a Wickes car park, and having read all the blogs and Watchdog advice, I ignored it and did not enter into any correspondence with them.
    I have just received a Judgement for Claimant (in Default) stating that if I ignore this demand for 85 plus 65 court costs, enforcement proceedings will be taken against me and I will have a CCJ taken out against me. I took it all to CAB and they said I should pay it so I (very reluctantly) have!! I just felt I should warn everyone that Parking Eye seem to be becoming more aggressive. Can't believe they have been hounding me for over a year. Needless to say I shall never give Wickes my custom in future!
    Originally posted by Non rule breaker
    It was pointed out a while back that after every PE loss that was reported on here one of these pops up. Sure enough on the last three occasions...one of these has popped up.
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