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  • Struggling to figure out how to start a bew thread...want to ask about a salary overpayment. My work told me inwas entitled to a allowance...they told me to complete the form to claim it and 3 years later now want all the money back...any advice?
  • StepChange_Allen
    StepChange_Allen Posts: 352 Organisation Representative
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    Flooz30 wrote: »
    Thank you
    I wrote to virgin 4 weeks ago asking for information and clarity and have heard nothing back.
    They won't speak to me on the phone as I do not have an account number.

    Is it in your experience usual after 5 years 8 months of nothing to get issued a default & not be able to defend it as have no recollection or information?


    Hi there

    Thanks for posting.

    Virgin should be able to show you where the debt had come from, especially if they've just issued a default; where have they got the information from to do that? If your details are on their system, they should be able to find you by name/address/DOB and such like, not just an account number.

    As Joe says, if you make an actual complaint, they have to respond and you can escalate it if you're not satisfied with the response. It certainly seems to be poor practice to issue a default over 5 years late, but we can't make any guarantees what will happen.

    Best wishes with getting this resolved.

    Allen
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy.

    Don't be afraid of getting debt advice. We'll help you take one more step towards getting help with your debt.
  • Struggling to figure out how to start a bew thread...want to ask about a salary overpayment. My work told me inwas entitled to a allowance...they told me to complete the form to claim it and 3 years later now want all the money back...any advice?

    You click on the blue new thread icon on the front page of this DFW forum to start a new thread. I suggest you do this as your post will get swamped here on the generic thread.

    My advice would be to clarify with your employer firstly why they told you to claim in the first place and do you have any evidence to support that? Secondly ask them what has changed to make you now ineligible to claim and why has it taken three years to realise this. Do you think you are still entitled? What allowance is it and how much are you talking about?
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free Wannabe, Budgeting and Banking and Savings and Investment boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
  • StepChange_Allen
    StepChange_Allen Posts: 352 Organisation Representative
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    Struggling to figure out how to start a bew thread...want to ask about a salary overpayment. My work told me inwas entitled to a allowance...they told me to complete the form to claim it and 3 years later now want all the money back...any advice?


    Hi there

    Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting.

    This sounds like something which falls outside our expertise I'm afraid. This sort of dispute with an employer may require advice from someone with legal knowledge, which we don't have.

    You could contact your local CAB to see if they have a legal advisor that could help. In the first instance though, could you speak with the employer if you haven't already? If you explain the circumstances under which you got the allowance and that you weren't expecting to have to pay it back, maybe they can look into it and discuss it with you?

    I hope you get it resolved.

    Allen
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy.

    Don't be afraid of getting debt advice. We'll help you take one more step towards getting help with your debt.
  • Hi all,
    I am looking for some advice on reducing my credit card debt.. I have embarrassingly let things go slightly and ended up acquiring a lot of interest with out realising.. so my current credit card balance is £12,000. I would like to transfer this to a 0% balance transfer card, but cannot find one which would allow me to transfer this much. Does anyone have any ideas? Or would I need to get a loan to make my payments more manageable?
    Many thanks in advance.
  • Hello

    Thanks for your post and welcome to the forum.

    I’m sorry to hear you’re struggling with your debts. Becoming stuck in the cycle of lending and paying can be really overwhelming, and it can certainly make it difficult to see a way out. Please be assured there is a way forward, and I’ll do everything I can to help.

    First of all, if you feel the money has been lent to you irresponsibly or in bad faith, you can make a complaint to the lenders concerned. If the creditors don’t respond within 8 weeks or you're not satisfied with their response, you can complain to the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS).

    • Phone - 0300 123 9123 or 0800 023 4567 (Monday to Friday 8am to 8pm or Saturday 8am to 1pm)
    • Email – [EMAIL="complaint.info@financial-ombudsman.org.uk"]complaint.info@financial-ombudsman.org.uk

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    The FOS are an impartial service so there’s no guarantee they’d resolve the complaint in your favour, and they may find that the creditor has acted fairly. However, they can order the creditors to reverse any unfair decisions and put them right.

    In the mean-time, it’s clear that the debts aren’t affordable and are causing further debt and distress. If you’re ready to break this cycle, StepChange Debt Charity can give you all the advice and support you need. A good place to start is our anonymous online Debt Remedy tool. This is available 24 hours a day and takes about 20 minutes to complete. The tool will guide you through creating a budget and will then offer the best debt solution for your situation. (Please note that if you complain to the creditor and eventually the FOS, paying towards debts that you are disputing will harm your claim).

    I hope you’ve found this useful.

    Thanks

    Joe


    Thanks for your advice.i have applied for my DMP paperwork and will have this returned shortly.
    Do you advise on any time scale in which to commence my DMP?
    All creditor payments are up to date as at 18th October. I will struggle between now and 18th November (My next pay day). My bank currently put me on a 30 day breather , so has one of my creditors (as I couldn't pay them on the 24th). Obviously in the I&E this doesn't give allowances for the fact Christmas is coming so obviously hasn't been budgeted for (People will be getting token gestures anyway until I sort myself out). What would you advise in this respect?
    Ohhh I really don't know what to do the whole situation is making me I'll and I know it's self inflicted but I am trying to get on the right track.
    Thanks for your advice so far x

    Started 2019 with £22,5000 debt - March 2021 Debt free - stick with it people I did and now never felt better
  • tricardo
    tricardo Posts: 36 Forumite
    Hi,

    I have been in financial difficulty for some time now, and had taken out various payday loans to help pay for essential expenses (like car repairs). I also have a personal loan with Lloyds bank which I was struggling keeping up the repayments with and have been living in a sizeable overdraft for some years. Something had to give...

    After missing various repayments on some of these payday loans, I contacted all of them individually to arrange repayment plans at a more affordable rate. All of them agreed to more favourable terms.

    My biggest squeeze was the £196 a month cost towards the personal loan. After missing a scheduled payment with Lloyds, I contacted them in August by telephone asking them to consider a repayment plan that I could afford (£20 a month) which I could increase as and when my circumstances improve. They agreed to this, but said that as it was not substantial enough, they would have to refer my loan to one of their partners to arrange this (probably a debt collection agency). They said this whole process could take 2 months.

    On September 24th, I contacted them again after having received a number of scary looking loan default notices in the post (also advising of my arrears that needed paying) just to check that all was processing OK, and that I didn't need to do anything else. They assured me that all was fine with this and that my loan was still in the process of being transferred. Later in the phone call, the advisor brought up that I was in a substantial overdraft, and asked if I'd considered transferring this over to the new arrangement. As I thought this might be a way of consolidating my bank debts, I thought this would be a good idea and agreed to this. They advised in time that I would need to open a new bank account up as my current account would eventually be closed. No timescale was ever mentioned, or cut off date given. I got around to opening a new account up with Natwest in October, but when I'd finally received all the paperwork it was too late for the cut off for my October salary.

    On Friday 26th October, my salary was paid into my Lloyds current account. I was still in an overdraft, but massively reduced. I was able to make my usual manual payments to credit cards, manually paid a few of my payday loan repayments a couple of days early and could take cash out of a cash machine. On Saturday 27th October, I could still take cash out of a cash machine. By Saturday evening, my available balance had been reduced to zero (by Lloyds) when I should have still had access to between £800-£900.

    Obviously irate, I phoned up Lloyds and was transferred to collections to be advised that I had been made aware that my account was going to be closed from my conversation on 24th September. I wasn't disputing this with them. I explained to the advisor that I have a new bank account set up elsewhere, and that I'd planned for the October salary to be the last into the Lloyds account. I argued that if I'd been given a specific date when this would happen, I could have potentially made other arrangements as I'd have no excuse, but nothing had been communicated with me. The fact that they've shut my account at some point during Saturday afternoon, to leave me with zero cash for the rest of the weekend when I have three children is disgusting. The lady on the phone said that she will arrange for me to be able to go into my local branch on Monday morning (so that's time off from work) and withdraw what I haven't spent out of my salary in cash, if I ring the collections department from within the branch. I'm sure that won't go according to plan, but I'll reserve judgement for now.

    I have rent due to leave my Lloyds account in a few days, and a few other payday loan repayments due to go out by direct debit. Obviously, these are all going to fail as my account is effectively closed, and I may now be slammed with notices of non-payment from these payday lenders, and ire from my landlady.

    I appreciate that all debts are repayable on demand but am I wrong to expect that they should have done more to keep me informed of their intentions / timescales, and that they shouldn't just leave me with no money for the rest of the weekend?

    Its caused me so much anguish and upset. Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is this something I could complain about?

    Thanks,

    (ps. I'll update this with my experience at the bank tomorrow morning)
  • StepChange_Allen
    StepChange_Allen Posts: 352 Organisation Representative
    First Anniversary First Post
    Hi all,
    I am looking for some advice on reducing my credit card debt.. I have embarrassingly let things go slightly and ended up acquiring a lot of interest with out realising.. so my current credit card balance is £12,000. I would like to transfer this to a 0% balance transfer card, but cannot find one which would allow me to transfer this much. Does anyone have any ideas? Or would I need to get a loan to make my payments more manageable?
    Many thanks in advance.


    Hi there

    Thanks for posting.

    As a debt advice charity, we can't recommend borrowing more money, though that doesn't mean it's always a bad idea and can't work. Whether there is a product out there that suits you will depend on things like your credit rating and your monthly budget.

    You could have a look on the MSE site itself at 'cheap loans': www.moneysavingexpert.com/loans/cheap-personal-loans/

    There is a loan eligibility calculator too which may give you an idea whether a loan is going to be affordable and feasible: www.moneysavingexpert.com/eligibility/loans-calculator/

    If this route doesn't work, is too expensive, or you'd rather look at other options, we can help. We can put a budget together with you and assess your financial situation, and then recommend the best steps to take. If your debts are unaffordable, we can recommend solutions to get them under control that avoid taking out further credit.

    If this sounds interesting, please have a look on our website at how to get started, either on the phone or online: www.stepchange.org/Contactus

    I hope this helps.

    Allen
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy.

    Don't be afraid of getting debt advice. We'll help you take one more step towards getting help with your debt.
  • StepChange_Allen
    StepChange_Allen Posts: 352 Organisation Representative
    First Anniversary First Post
    Thanks for your advice.i have applied for my DMP paperwork and will have this returned shortly.
    Do you advise on any time scale in which to commence my DMP?
    All creditor payments are up to date as at 18th October. I will struggle between now and 18th November (My next pay day). My bank currently put me on a 30 day breather , so has one of my creditors (as I couldn't pay them on the 24th). Obviously in the I&E this doesn't give allowances for the fact Christmas is coming so obviously hasn't been budgeted for (People will be getting token gestures anyway until I sort myself out). What would you advise in this respect?
    Ohhh I really don't know what to do the whole situation is making me I'll and I know it's self inflicted but I am trying to get on the right track.
    Thanks for your advice so far x


    Hi there

    Thanks for posting.

    I'm pleased that you contacted us and have now found a debt solution to help you.

    The DMP would start on the next available date after we return your paperwork; the earliest date now would be December. We advise in your personal action plan to cancel all your debt repayments straight away once you've chosen a debt solution. We'd also recommend that you ask all your creditors for a 30-day hold on your account so that collections action can be suspended.

    Christmas would be covered by the sundries/emergencies section on the budget; hopefully if you're not paying your debts the next payment this will help for this year's festivities.

    If you still have worries or concerns after receiving your debt advice, please give us another call and we'll do our best to explain anything that you're struggling with.

    I hope this is helpful.

    Allen
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy.

    Don't be afraid of getting debt advice. We'll help you take one more step towards getting help with your debt.
  • StepChange_Allen
    StepChange_Allen Posts: 352 Organisation Representative
    First Anniversary First Post
    tricardo wrote: »
    Hi,

    I have been in financial difficulty for some time now, and had taken out various payday loans to help pay for essential expenses (like car repairs). I also have a personal loan with Lloyds bank which I was struggling keeping up the repayments with and have been living in a sizeable overdraft for some years. Something had to give...

    After missing various repayments on some of these payday loans, I contacted all of them individually to arrange repayment plans at a more affordable rate. All of them agreed to more favourable terms.

    My biggest squeeze was the £196 a month cost towards the personal loan. After missing a scheduled payment with Lloyds, I contacted them in August by telephone asking them to consider a repayment plan that I could afford (£20 a month) which I could increase as and when my circumstances improve. They agreed to this, but said that as it was not substantial enough, they would have to refer my loan to one of their partners to arrange this (probably a debt collection agency). They said this whole process could take 2 months.

    On September 24th, I contacted them again after having received a number of scary looking loan default notices in the post (also advising of my arrears that needed paying) just to check that all was processing OK, and that I didn't need to do anything else. They assured me that all was fine with this and that my loan was still in the process of being transferred. Later in the phone call, the advisor brought up that I was in a substantial overdraft, and asked if I'd considered transferring this over to the new arrangement. As I thought this might be a way of consolidating my bank debts, I thought this would be a good idea and agreed to this. They advised in time that I would need to open a new bank account up as my current account would eventually be closed. No timescale was ever mentioned, or cut off date given. I got around to opening a new account up with Natwest in October, but when I'd finally received all the paperwork it was too late for the cut off for my October salary.

    On Friday 26th October, my salary was paid into my Lloyds current account. I was still in an overdraft, but massively reduced. I was able to make my usual manual payments to credit cards, manually paid a few of my payday loan repayments a couple of days early and could take cash out of a cash machine. On Saturday 27th October, I could still take cash out of a cash machine. By Saturday evening, my available balance had been reduced to zero (by Lloyds) when I should have still had access to between £800-£900.

    Obviously irate, I phoned up Lloyds and was transferred to collections to be advised that I had been made aware that my account was going to be closed from my conversation on 24th September. I wasn't disputing this with them. I explained to the advisor that I have a new bank account set up elsewhere, and that I'd planned for the October salary to be the last into the Lloyds account. I argued that if I'd been given a specific date when this would happen, I could have potentially made other arrangements as I'd have no excuse, but nothing had been communicated with me. The fact that they've shut my account at some point during Saturday afternoon, to leave me with zero cash for the rest of the weekend when I have three children is disgusting. The lady on the phone said that she will arrange for me to be able to go into my local branch on Monday morning (so that's time off from work) and withdraw what I haven't spent out of my salary in cash, if I ring the collections department from within the branch. I'm sure that won't go according to plan, but I'll reserve judgement for now.

    I have rent due to leave my Lloyds account in a few days, and a few other payday loan repayments due to go out by direct debit. Obviously, these are all going to fail as my account is effectively closed, and I may now be slammed with notices of non-payment from these payday lenders, and ire from my landlady.

    I appreciate that all debts are repayable on demand but am I wrong to expect that they should have done more to keep me informed of their intentions / timescales, and that they shouldn't just leave me with no money for the rest of the weekend?

    Its caused me so much anguish and upset. Has anyone else had this happen to them? Is this something I could complain about?

    Thanks,

    (ps. I'll update this with my experience at the bank tomorrow morning)


    Hi there

    Thanks for posting and giving detail on this situation.

    My understanding is that an overdraft facility can be removed at any time by a bank, though I can appreciate the distress and inconvenience that it caused you. Whilst there are no guarantees I also believe that if you then contact the bank and explain that this has caused serious financial hardship, for example, meaning no money for essentials like food and rent, that they're likely to allow you to access some of the money.

    If you feel that someone at Lloyds has promised or guaranteed you something that they've gone back on, or that they've breached the terms and conditions of your overdraft agreement, then you could make a formal written complaint. A copy of their complaints procedure should be available on their website.

    If you'd like some advice on dealing with your debts, we can help you free of charge. Please have a look on our website at how to register via phone or our online Debt Remedy tool: www.stepchange.org/Contactus

    I hope this is helpful.

    Allen
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy.

    Don't be afraid of getting debt advice. We'll help you take one more step towards getting help with your debt.
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