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    • Thrugelmir
    • By Thrugelmir 6th Dec 18, 11:39 AM
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    Personal view is that this level of growth will somewhat challenging to achieve.
    "The most dangerous thing is to buy something at the peak of its popularity. At that point, all favourable facts and opinions are already factored into its price and no new buyers are left to emerge." - Howard Marks
    • talexuser
    • By talexuser 6th Dec 18, 1:03 PM
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    At the ?end? of this bull run it seems just a bit optimistic. Unless QE and artificial low interest rates go on forever.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 6th Dec 18, 2:56 PM
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    Jack Bogle of Vanguard fame is predicting low single digit growth for the foreseeable future, 4% average over the next decade.
    • Prism
    • By Prism 6th Dec 18, 3:02 PM
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    lots of questions if we are anywhere near the end of a bull run. Europe could continue to grow at its slow and steady pace. Uk might be massively undervalued. EM has been rubbish for years but might pick up. The US is nearest to the end (if there is an end). Who can say. I always expect an 8%+ growth rate regardless. Glass half full and all that.
    • Audaxer
    • By Audaxer 6th Dec 18, 3:12 PM
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    Don't blame the author of the article who is just publishing the results of a survey. Because the survey of 1,000 UK investors found that they expect these sort of returns means nothing, as I'm sure their expectations are influenced by returns over the last 10 years. I certainly don't expect these sort of returns over the next 5 years.
    • Pension Geek
    • By Pension Geek 6th Dec 18, 3:48 PM
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    Was it simply 'what percentage return do you expect'? Or 'If you invest 10,000.00 today what do you expect it to be worth in 5 years?'. Are these people actually active investors?
    Not an expert, but like pensions, tax questions and giving guidance. There is no substitute for tailored financial advice.
    • TBC15
    • By TBC15 6th Dec 18, 5:09 PM
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    lots of questions if we are anywhere near the end of a bull run. Europe could continue to grow at its slow and steady pace. Uk might be massively undervalued. EM has been rubbish for years but might pick up. The US is nearest to the end (if there is an end). Who can say. I always expect an 8%+ growth rate regardless. Glass half full and all that.
    Originally posted by Prism
    Well my glass has been more than half full till quite recently, I suspect someone is drinking my pint.
    • CKhalvashi
    • By CKhalvashi 6th Dec 18, 5:59 PM
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    • 6th Dec 18, 5:59 PM
    Personal view is that this level of growth will somewhat challenging to achieve.
    Originally posted by Thrugelmir
    I agree, many markets are currently overheated IMO and there are upcoming challenges for many economies.

    If you went in some time ago, its possible to average that on existing investments IMO, but US is likely to be affected by tariffs, UK by Brexit and potentially EU by both plus liquidity issues in at least 2 countries.

    Interesting times ahead......
    "I kada sanjamo san, nek bude hiljadu raznih boja" (L. Stamenkovic)

    Call me Remainer or Romaniac, but not Remoaner. It's insulting and I have the right to have my voice heard too.

    I can spell, my iPad can't.
    • Economic
    • By Economic 6th Dec 18, 7:30 PM
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    • poppy10
    • By poppy10 6th Dec 18, 9:32 PM
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    Jack Bogle of Vanguard fame is predicting low single digit growth for the foreseeable future, 4% average over the next decade.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    He predicted 4% after inflation, around 6% in nominal terms.
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