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    • dbrookf
    • By dbrookf 6th Dec 18, 5:17 PM
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    Medical emergency
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    • 6th Dec 18, 5:17 PM
    Medical emergency 6th Dec 18 at 5:17 PM
    Anyone had any success with claiming flight delay compensation when the plane you are awaiting had to return to base due to a medical emergency on board...?
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    • DrA_Harrogate
    • By DrA_Harrogate 6th Dec 18, 5:35 PM
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    I seem to recall (couldn't find it here) an example where a medical emergency was unforeseeable. It seems so to me, but logic seems to exit the window quite frequently in these matters so a check via the nwnf lot would be worthwhile.
    • Caz3121
    • By Caz3121 6th Dec 18, 5:36 PM
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    A medical emergency is outside the airlines control so compensation is not due
    • Justice13075
    • By Justice13075 6th Dec 18, 7:23 PM
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    As I read it the emergency was not on the op's flight but the incoming flight to pick them up.
    • Grey Critic
    • By Grey Critic 6th Dec 18, 8:51 PM
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    Depends where the medical emergency occurred. If the plane you are on has to return due to a medical emergency then no. If you are returning from holiday for example and the plane that had to turn back was the one to bring you home then again the answer is no. BUT as is common planes actually do several trips in a day. If during one of those trips the plane had been delayed due to the emergency and your delay is due to the knock on effect then yes you are entitled to claim. The regulations assume that the airline has several planes standing by just in case, they don’t of course. The airline will most probably try to argue it does but they are just trying it on. Happened to me where it happened to an earlier flight and they had to pay out.
    • Tyzap
    • By Tyzap 6th Dec 18, 9:43 PM
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    • 6th Dec 18, 9:43 PM
    I think your understanding is correct, if your flight is not directly affected by the medical emergency you have a valid claim.
    Good luck.
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    • jpsartre
    • By jpsartre 7th Dec 18, 10:52 AM
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    The regulations assume that the airline has several planes standing by just in case
    Originally posted by Grey Critic

    Maybe at their base airport but it's not a given this would have prevented the delay in the OP's case. It's greatly premature to say the OP has a valid claim, there's simply not enough details to decide either way.
    • Tyzap
    • By Tyzap 7th Dec 18, 11:40 AM
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    It's greatly premature to say the OP has a valid claim, there's simply not enough details to decide either way.
    Originally posted by jpsartre
    There is, you just cannot see it or understand it, so you criticise people who can and do. Totally negative!
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    • leylandsunaddict
    • By leylandsunaddict 7th Dec 18, 12:36 PM
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    Maybe it's just me, but trying to claim compo due to a medical emergency on the incoming flight is just wrong. Just because you can or may be able to, doesn't mean you have to, or should.
    • Justice13075
    • By Justice13075 7th Dec 18, 1:26 PM
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    It works both ways The airlines should abide by Eu261/2004 but often don't and should pay compensation and often don't. When they abide by the regulations we might treat them differently.
    • dbrookf
    • By dbrookf 7th Dec 18, 2:22 PM
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    It was an Emirates flight from Dubai that was due in at 07:00 for us to board at 08:45 hours. However that particular flight had to turn back to base, as a medical emergency occurred and once they have got that sorted out the flight then took off again for us to board eventually at 15:45 hours.
    • jpsartre
    • By jpsartre 7th Dec 18, 2:34 PM
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    There is, you just cannot see it or understand it, so you criticise people who can and do. Totally negative!
    Originally posted by Tyzap

    It's nothing to do with being negative or positive, it's about giving qualified opinions rather than create unrealistic expectations. People in here are very knowledgable but there's generally a tendency to overestimate the validity of claims based in insufficient details. This thread is a clear example.
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 7th Dec 18, 2:44 PM
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    I hold by the principle that emergencies, especially medical ones, could happen to me. Therefore I do not get in the way of or complain for compensation when something happens that I or mine might benefit from.

    Sure, it's a principle that might be costing me money but better that than someone's life.
    • Justice13075
    • By Justice13075 7th Dec 18, 3:26 PM
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    Non-Eu airline flying from a Non-EU airport means no compensation.
    • Ganga
    • By Ganga 7th Dec 18, 3:36 PM
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    I hold by the principle that emergencies, especially medical ones, could happen to me. Therefore I do not get in the way of or complain for compensation when something happens that I or mine might benefit from.

    Sure, it's a principle that might be costing me money but better that than someone's life.
    Originally posted by DigForVictory
    I for one second that
    ITS NOT EASY TO GET EVERYTHING WRONG ,I HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DO IT!
    • jpsartre
    • By jpsartre 7th Dec 18, 4:02 PM
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    Non-Eu airline flying from a Non-EU airport means no compensation.
    Originally posted by Justice13075

    I think the OP meant that the flight was coming from Dubai. I assume the OP was boarding in the UK although that hasn't strictly been established.
    • dbrookf
    • By dbrookf 7th Dec 18, 4:30 PM
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    I think the OP meant that the flight was coming from Dubai. I assume the OP was boarding in the UK although that hasn't strictly been established.
    Originally posted by jpsartre
    Yes Manchester!
    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 7th Dec 18, 4:54 PM
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    I for one second that
    Originally posted by Ganga
    Me too! A culture that has become endemic to this forum.

    The people claiming the most compensation are likely to be the loudest complainers when prices rise - as they assuredly will. Do they honestly think that in the long run the airlines and their bosses will be happy to bear the losses brought about by everybody scrambling for compensation at the drop of a hat? I don't think so.
    • jpsartre
    • By jpsartre 7th Dec 18, 5:04 PM
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    The people claiming the most compensation are likely to be the loudest complainers when prices rise - as they assuredly will.
    Originally posted by LadyDee

    The regulations have been around for well over a decade. If prices have gone up because of EU261 (which I doubt) it happened years ago.
    • Tyzap
    • By Tyzap 7th Dec 18, 5:55 PM
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    Maybe it's just me, but trying to claim compo due to a medical emergency on the incoming flight is just wrong. Just because you can or may be able to, doesn't mean you have to, or should.
    Originally posted by leylandsunaddict
    I agree that a medical emergency is an EC and am on record for stating that in the past. The sanctity of life comes above everything in my opinion.

    If the op was on the flight from Dubai they would not have a valid claim, however, as they were waiting for the next flight, they do have a valid claim, if they want to pursue it. At some point the EC has to end and I believe that point is at the end of the affected flight, as it is with bad weather.
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