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    • Daveholdem
    • By Daveholdem 19th Nov 19, 6:08 PM
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    Crazy Exepensive energy prices
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:08 PM
    Crazy Exepensive energy prices 19th Nov 19 at 6:08 PM
    I have recentley moved into a 2 bed flat. Obviously with winter coming its starting to get cold so we've started to put the heating on. Our flat is a electricity flat, no gas so I know its going to be more expensive than usual.


    We're on economy 7 so know when best to heat the water etc.

    We have barely used to heating to be honest and I did a meter reading this morning and in 14 days we've managed to use 500kwh of electricity. We haven't used the heating that much, the boiler is timed so it comes on at specific times so we don't use that much energy and the worst of winter is yet to come!


    I'm kinda nervous about using the heating if we've used that much when we've barely had the heating on in the last 14 days. Does this sound normal?
    Last edited by Daveholdem; 19-11-2019 at 6:18 PM.
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    • daveyjp
    • By daveyjp 19th Nov 19, 6:23 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:23 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:23 PM
    35 kWh per day.

    Quite possible with all electric, but without knowing the heating system impossible to say if it is typical.
    • RelievedSheff
    • By RelievedSheff 19th Nov 19, 6:39 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:39 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:39 PM
    Have you got an immersion heater that is on 24/7?
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 19th Nov 19, 6:39 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:39 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:39 PM
    35kwh a day - probably 25 at night and 10 per day - about 5 - for all your heating, hot water, cooking, lighting - not too bad a deal.

    Continue to read your meters and monitor your bills.

    I presume you switched to a new tariff after you moved in and are not on a standard tariff.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • Daveholdem
    • By Daveholdem 19th Nov 19, 6:50 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:50 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 6:50 PM
    Yes we switched to bulb. 16.4p per kwh on day rate
    9per per kwh night rate
    • Daveholdem
    • By Daveholdem 19th Nov 19, 7:00 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:00 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:00 PM
    no i dont have an immersion heater
    • RelievedSheff
    • By RelievedSheff 19th Nov 19, 7:32 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:32 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:32 PM
    5 a day is a lot of money. We are not even into winter properly yet!
    • Gerry1
    • By Gerry1 19th Nov 19, 7:42 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:42 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:42 PM
    So you have a wet radiator system connected to an electric boiler running on full price electricity? That's far from normal, it's about the most expensive configuration you can have !
    Seems to be compounded by not having an immersion heater, so you have to fire up the boiler, even in summer, just to get hot water?

    Finally, if you have an independent boiler timer, how do you know it's always accurately synchronised with your E7 night rate? The switching times can vary by +/- 15 minutes if you have a radio teleswitch, so you may be unintentionally using more day rate electricity than you think.

    Have you tried taking meter readings at the start and finish of the cheap rate periods (watch the meter switching over) to see whether a single rate tariff would be cheaper? E7 may not be doing you any favours if you don't have storage heaters.
    • Daveholdem
    • By Daveholdem 19th Nov 19, 7:52 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:52 PM
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    • 19th Nov 19, 7:52 PM
    We got this system

    STUART TURNER BEP 130 ELECTRASTREAM PRE-ASSEMBLED ELECTRIC BOILER - 46727



    Not sure off it's immersion or not
    • SeeMe
    • By SeeMe 19th Nov 19, 9:15 PM
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    5 a day is a lot of money. We are not even into winter properly yet!
    Originally posted by RelievedSheff

    That would scare me, does that include standing charge and vat or just energy use.
    • SeeMe
    • By SeeMe 19th Nov 19, 9:16 PM
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    35kwh a day - probably 25 at night and 10 per day - about 5 - for all your heating, hot water, cooking, lighting - not too bad a deal.

    Continue to read your meters and monitor your bills.

    I presume you switched to a new tariff after you moved in and are not on a standard tariff.
    Originally posted by Robin9

    That would scare me, does that include standing charge and vat or just energy use.
    Last edited by SeeMe; 19-11-2019 at 9:18 PM.
    • Gerry1
    • By Gerry1 19th Nov 19, 9:36 PM
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    Send meter readings at least monthly, and shop around for a better deal when you have an idea of your annual consumption.

    If the property is rented, you're probably stuck with a very bad deal: the bills will be huge. E7 is probably not the best solution for a wet electric system because most usage will be at peak rates; see whether single rate would be better. Keep the E7 meter so you can revert back if necessary.

    If you've bought the property, see whether there's any possibility of getting mains gas or LPG. Probably unlikely or impractical otherwise it would already have it, but may be worth a try? It'll be expensive, but so is electric CH, and the money would be an investment rather than lost forever. Alternatively, well insulated storage heaters may be an option. If new build, the developer or local authority may have gone for the cheapest infrastructure because they won't have to pay the bills.

    Sorry for the blunt news, but you haven't had a good deal. Make sure your next place has GCH !
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