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Has anyone taken out the new Energy Bond which they say is backed by the government. It advertises 3-5year bonds for 7% - 9.25%
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  • Has anyone taken out the new Energy Bond which they say is backed by the government. It advertises 3-5year bonds for 7% - 9.25%

    http://www.ukenergybond.co.uk/

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    Please be aware that Fre Plc is NOT authorised or regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. We do not offer any financial advice in any guise and as such not all of the investment products we offer are covered by the Financial Ombudsman Service or the Financial Services Compensation Scheme
  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    Further:
    This opportunity is only suitable for accredited investors (self certified sophisticated or High net worth individuals). All investments carry an element of risk, these risks include capital loss and illiquidity risk due to the absence of a viable secondary market for a particular product. Some investments can experience significant volatility and value fluctuations in a very short space of time, which may present an increased risk of losing your original capital. If you are unsure of these definitions please see the links below.
    http://freplc.co.uk/investor-profile/
    I can qualify as either a sophisticated or HNW investor, but the average UK investor cannot qualify as either. Although, the average person may still be able to get the product because the status is self-certified and you could lie.

    They also say on their home page "Track record from previous bond below".

    Without applying for an information pack, the track record information on that page seems to just be "first dividend successfully paid " and that the RICS valuation went up. No indication that subsequent dividends can or will be paid, or that capital will eventually be returned, or that the company responsible for paying out the capital or interest will still remain in business when it comes to cashing out your bond.

    The footnotes explicitly state
    This is not intended to act as an indication of future performance of any other investment opportunities. Investors may lose all invested capital if the project fails. This promotion is only suitable to accredited UK investors.
    So, even if you are an accredited investor or willing to lie to say that you are, in the knowledge that you have no comeback from any compensation scheme, regulator or ombudsman, you should understand that Investors May Lose All Invested Capital.

    The bond is not at all backed by the government. Where a project successfully launches and becomes government accredited, the government is paying income to an operating business, but that business may or may not be profitable after costs to build it. The bond in which you are investing is simply a loan to the people who are arranging financing of a business. The fact that there is a 'regulated security trustee' able to confirm that your bond certificate exists and knowing whose bond is whose, does not mean the company will be able to afford to pay back the bond.

    So, it's not at all secure. And as stated by the company it is not suitable for, or available to, any investor who can't qualify as an exempt person under relevant Articles of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotions) Order 2005 (“FPO”) by being high net worth or self-cert sophisticated.

    The average person should not get involved with these niche, high risk, no consumer protection opportunities. Investing would usually involve misrepresentation on the part of the investor in terms of their suitability and qualification, and is followed by potential loss of life savings if the project does badly. The government does NOT back you investing in this product.
  • Gadfium
    Gadfium Posts: 763 Forumite
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    Looks like a typical one-page website "honey-pot" to lure in the unwary. And given that Future Renewables PLC was only incorporated last year, I wouldn't be touching that with a bargepole.
  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    Gadfium wrote: »
    Looks like a typical one-page website "honey-pot" to lure in the unwary. And given that Future Renewables PLC was only incorporated last year, I wouldn't be touching that with a bargepole.
    b..b..but how can you say you wouldn't touch it with a bargepole when their first investment was really successful ??! It has already allegedly paid one dividend!

    Why shouldn't I just fill out the form for an information pack while making the declaration that "I accept that the investments to which the promotions will relate may expose me to a significant risk of losing all of the money or other property invested. I am aware that it is open to me to seek advice from someone who specialises in advising on non-readily realisable securities." , and then go crying to the newspapers when it all goes titsup?

    :D
  • Gadfium
    Gadfium Posts: 763 Forumite
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    bowlhead99 wrote: »
    b..b..but how can you say you wouldn't touch it with a bargepole when their first investment was really successful ??! It has already allegedly paid one dividend!

    Why shouldn't I just fill out the form for an information pack while making the declaration that "I accept that the investments to which the promotions will relate may expose me to a significant risk of losing all of the money or other property invested. I am aware that it is open to me to seek advice from someone who specialises in advising on non-readily realisable securities." , and then go crying to the newspapers when it all goes titsup?

    :D


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  • jimjames
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    edited 16 September 2016 at 1:16PM
    Has anyone taken out the new Energy Bond which they say is backed by the government. It advertises 3-5year bonds for 7% - 9.25%
    You've been mislead if you think it is backed by the government. Their site specifically says it is unregulated. The icon might state that income from accredited sites is backed by government but that doesn't mean you have any protection for your money. That means you can lose all your money as other investors have done in similar schemes. As the site says:

    Investors may lose all invested capital if the project fails.
    Investors may lose all invested capital if the project fails.
    Read my signature!
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • Connie,
    You should keep this kind of important financial information to yourself so you can buy all the bonds you can afford and reap all the benefits that you richly deserve.
  • EdGasket
    EdGasket Posts: 3,503 Forumite
    Connie,
    You should keep this kind of important financial information to yourself so you can buy all the bonds you can afford and reap all the benefits that you richly deserve.

    Don't; she might believe you!
  • Does nobody read the newspapers or news on your tablet/iPhone?

    Doesn't look like it to me, and why not?

    If you had you would have read about Providence Bonds and Secured Energy Bonds - both gone bust, all money gone.

    And why would anyone believe 7% is achievable?

    Well good luck with the Energy Bonds Connie, let us all know what you intend to do. fj
  • simon1965
    simon1965 Posts: 2 Newbie
    edited 26 June 2017 at 9:18AM
    I was cold called by a gentleman named Aslan Kaplan, upon a quick google search of 'Aslan Kaplan investments' it showed this chap {text removed by MSE Forum Team} definitely alarm bells ringing.
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