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    • ExNicotineQueen
    • By ExNicotineQueen 10th Apr 18, 11:19 AM
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    What happens if vendors don't remove agreed stuff?
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    • 10th Apr 18, 11:19 AM
    What happens if vendors don't remove agreed stuff? 10th Apr 18 at 11:19 AM
    Found a house, offer been accepted and mortgage application in.

    Currently in the process of discussing with the vendors via the estate agents as to what will be left/what will be removed. There was a large pile of bricks in the front garden and all of the garden fence panels piled high in the back garden that we've asked to be removed which they have agreed to. They also asked if we wanted all of their white goods (ancient) and wardrobes etc (they were broken and falling apart) which again we declined. The couple are divorced and both have moved out, they have relatives living there for the time being.

    What happens if when we move in, none of it has been removed? It's not a small job by any means and would be quite costly to sort out once you factor in skip hire etc.

    Is this done on a 'trust' situation as in you hope that they will stand by their word? Or do you involve solicitors so it's written into contract somewhere? Total newbie here.
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    • ExNicotineQueen
    • By ExNicotineQueen 10th Apr 18, 2:24 PM
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    You do need to insure it from day of exchange.
    Originally posted by AnotherJoe
    Thank you for this, another bit of information that I didn't know.
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 10th Apr 18, 2:28 PM
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    And I would go round on day of exchange* and check house is empty, and also ensure that the solicitor doesn't exchange until they've heard from you.
    Originally posted by AnotherJoe
    And stay camped outside until completion, just in case they come back?
    • googler
    • By googler 10th Apr 18, 3:00 PM
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    I'm finding it quite amusing to think of the sellers' relatives as "stuff" ....
    • ExNicotineQueen
    • By ExNicotineQueen 10th Apr 18, 3:23 PM
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    I'm finding it quite amusing to think of the sellers' relatives as "stuff" ....
    Originally posted by googler
    The 'stuff' I was referring to was the junk in the back garden and the bricks in the front garden, not the relatives.
    • tealady
    • By tealady 10th Apr 18, 6:07 PM
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    Hi
    Wouldnt worry too much about bricks. If they are still there when you move in put up a sign saying "free bricks, help yourself".
    The tenants are the headache, your solicitor should ensure you have vacant posession. Do NOT rely on the sellers say so.
    Junk may involve a few trips to the tip, annoying but not life changing. If you put any metal out on the front garden then it is likely to vanish.
    HTH
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    • Thrugelmir
    • By Thrugelmir 10th Apr 18, 6:40 PM
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    What happens if when we move in, none of it has been removed? It's not a small job by any means and would be quite costly to sort out once you factor in skip hire etc.
    Originally posted by ExNicotineQueen
    Don't exchange contracts until it's been removed. If that's the agreed arrangement.

    Skips aren't cheap these days. With all the waste disposal charges that are levied.
    Financial disasters happen when the last person who can remember what went wrong last time has left the building.
    • maisie cat
    • By maisie cat 10th Apr 18, 6:51 PM
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    Having moved many times, I cannot think that there was a single time I moved and there wasn't something either missing or left behind. I've had a cupboard of very expensive old china left that I had to repatriate with a grateful 90 year old. I've had furniture left and a greenhouse as well as light fittings taken leaving bare wires and white goods that disappeared.
    It simply isn't worth allowing these things to take the joy out of your new home
    • ExNicotineQueen
    • By ExNicotineQueen 16th Apr 18, 4:46 PM
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    Just had the valuation back from the bank and under one of the sections it states:

    Was there any evidence during the inspection of tenancy? If yes please provide details

    It is ticked yes and the response written is: Assured shorthold tenancy agreement

    Can anyone shed any light on this please?
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 16th Apr 18, 4:59 PM
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    Just had the valuation back from the bank and under one of the sections it states:

    Was there any evidence during the inspection of tenancy? If yes please provide details

    It is ticked yes and the response written is: Assured shorthold tenancy agreement

    Can anyone shed any light on this please?
    Originally posted by ExNicotineQueen
    It means the surveyor spotted that there was someone living there other than the owners, and has assumed they are occupying under an AST. Your solicitors have more information than the surveyor as to what the arrangement actually is, so nothing (additional!) to worry about.
    • deannatrois
    • By deannatrois 16th Apr 18, 5:27 PM
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    Unless the surveyor asked the people living there. It could be he/she casually ticked the box without knowing but this does need to be brought to the attention of your solicitor and the position with the people presently living there clarified, that exchange won't happen until the property is empty of any residents.
    • ExNicotineQueen
    • By ExNicotineQueen 16th Apr 18, 6:17 PM
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    My partner just called the EAs and they knew that the cousin was paying the owner rent. Surely this should have been put in the advert about tenant in situ? Where does this leave us now in regards to timeline, do we have to wait until the vendor has applied for section 21 or 28? I will get proper confirmation from my solicitor if he ever answers his phone!
    • HouseBuyer77
    • By HouseBuyer77 16th Apr 18, 6:30 PM
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    Sounds like an informal arrangement but if the cousin wants to be stubborn they can say they have an AST and refuse to leave requiring an eviction order from the court. Depending on when they've moved in this could take a while (cannot issue an S21 that gives them a leaving date before the first 6 months).

    From your point of view just ensure the property is vacant before you exchange. It's the sellers problem if the cousin doesn't move out (as you won't exchange and they'll loose the sale). However it would be frustrating to get to exchange then find cousin is staying put. Up to you to decide how likely this is.
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