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    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 17th Jul 17, 3:43 PM
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    Disappearing Threads and the like
    • #1
    • 17th Jul 17, 3:43 PM
    Disappearing Threads and the like 17th Jul 17 at 3:43 PM
    Hi All

    I wanted to post this as a new thread to ensure everyone was kept informed. A couple of very popular threads have been auto deleted by the system, and this has caused much frustration (understandably)

    Having spoken to Andrea & the Forum team, it has been confirmed the team are investigating and reviewing the system (when it deletes threads like this). The team appreciate being made aware of instances like this so thank you all.

    Some updates as provided by Andrea (who may comment as well)

    * I am able to provide missing data or information from the missing threads, if someone can help me with keywords to find them. I have posted the most up to date weight list that I know of on the new weightloss thread.

    * Sadly, myself or the Forum team aren't able to reinstate threads auto deleted in this way. The forum team have confirmed it's for legal reasons as we would be deemed as "publishing" the information, and would be liable for the content on the threads. I'm unable to comment on or discuss the teams stance on this. I first checked they were happy with the way I have explained this

    * It may be a good idea for you between you to monitor large threads and consider starting a new one if a thread is getting quite large. This would ensure we are retaining as much information as possible, as we can link to the old ones. If anyone needs help with hyper links this old thread from Squeaky explains it fantastically

    I really appreciate everyones understanding on this.

    I'll leave this open for a short while and will close later on.

    Zip
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    • TiredTrophy
    • By TiredTrophy 19th Jul 17, 7:51 AM
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    The position of the spam button should be moved further in to prevent accidentally hitting it. Even though I have a large tablet, it is easily done when picking up a device and more so if its small or one is clumsy.I 3xpand the screen to lose the side bar to increase the print size; this puts the spam button under my right thumb! The least disruptive way might be to push the whole button array to the centre of the message area but leave them in the same order.
    I also am having to constantly sign in. Is there an attack on the site?

    I really appreciate the forum amd the work that must go into keeping it going. Thank you.
    Last edited by TiredTrophy; 19-07-2017 at 7:59 AM. Reason: More info
    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 20th Jul 17, 1:10 PM
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    zippychick
    thanks to those who have started new thread

    Also i've had some very kind thankful comments in threads and a lovely PM of thanks, you're all too cute!

    Zip
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    • cafelady
    • By cafelady 22nd Jul 17, 9:09 AM
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    I actually think it's good practice to restart long running threads, say yearly. I think long running threads with hundreds and hundreds of pages can put off new people from joining in. There's so much to read through and they can seem a bit overwhelming to newcomers.
    • caronc
    • By caronc 22nd Jul 17, 7:58 PM
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    I actually think it's good practice to restart long running threads, say yearly. I think long running threads with hundreds and hundreds of pages can put off new people from joining in. There's so much to read through and they can seem a bit overwhelming to newcomers.
    Originally posted by cafelady
    That's good point though some threads get huge quite quickly so a year would be too long. On another forum I belong to threads need to be "capped" at 2000 posts and a new one started.
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    • Ozalman
    • By Ozalman 14th Sep 17, 8:17 AM
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    Hi,

    I'm posting on a thread. After a day or even less my post in the thread and even some others after me disappear. How can this happen? Is someone deleting my post and others?
    • Primrose
    • By Primrose 14th Nov 17, 7:15 PM
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    I must plead gui,ty as charged for occasionally clicking on a Spam button even though I am immediately mortified and !!!8220;unrepor!!!8221; it immediately. As somebody else has pointed out, its incredibly easy to do this accidentally on a tablet because most of us are right handed and flick up screens on the right hand part of the screen,exactly where the SPAM button is located.

    Could the SPAM button be relocated to where the THANKS button is found? I think might prevent a lot of accidents with tablet users.
    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 17th Nov 17, 2:35 PM
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    zippychick
    Hi,

    I'm posting on a thread. After a day or even less my post in the thread and even some others after me disappear. How can this happen? Is someone deleting my post and others?
    Originally posted by Ozalman
    Hi, I can see two posts. This one, and the one here

    If you believe posts are being deleted on you, please contact the team on forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com

    Spam posts and duplicate posts are most commonly deleted

    Kindest regards
    Zip
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    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 17th Nov 17, 2:37 PM
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    I must plead gui,ty as charged for occasionally clicking on a Spam button even though I am immediately mortified and !!!8220;unrepor!!!8221; it immediately. As somebody else has pointed out, its incredibly easy to do this accidentally on a tablet because most of us are right handed and flick up screens on the right hand part of the screen,exactly where the SPAM button is located.

    Could the SPAM button be relocated to where the THANKS button is found? I think might prevent a lot of accidents with tablet users.
    Originally posted by Primrose
    Really great feedback but might be better posted up in the Site feedback board Primrose. I don't think your intended audience will see your post here

    Kindest regards

    Zip
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    • Primrose
    • By Primrose 17th Nov 17, 3:32 PM
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    I would report it there if only I could find it, but have searched and can't find anything ! Does anybody have a link please?
    • I Love comps
    • By I Love comps 17th Nov 17, 5:32 PM
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    [QUOTE=Primrose;73426293]I would report it there if only I could find it, but have searched and can't find anything ! Does anybody have a link please?[/QUOTE
    Primroseif you look at zippychicks last post then you need to click on the site feedback in blue - this will take you to where you need to go.
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    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 9th Jan 18, 6:15 PM
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    Help! The 'What are you making for Dinner' thread seems to have disappeared again? What's happened to it? i'm sure everyone wants to know about my lamb casserole
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    • Islandmaid
    • By Islandmaid 9th Jan 18, 7:28 PM
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    Help! The 'What are you making for Dinner' thread seems to have disappeared again? What's happened to it? i'm sure everyone wants to know about my lamb casserole
    Originally posted by kerri gt
    I certainly do

    Whos nicked it..... the thread, not the casserole
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    • JIL
    • By JIL 10th Jan 18, 12:12 AM
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    It has gone again!!

    I started the last one inadvertently, by asking where the old one had gone. It's gone from my history.

    I will start another, then if the old one can be resurrected hopefully they can be merged?

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5772733
    Last edited by JIL; 10-01-2018 at 12:33 AM.
    • maddiemay
    • By maddiemay 12th Jan 18, 10:03 PM
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    And now the Love Food Hate Waste thread has gone, this is really so unfair, both of these threads are a great source of hints, tips and recipes, particularly for those who really need to tighten their belts and perhaps have not been taught to cook or manage food storage and preparation.

    If it is a case of too much spam, then I like many others, think that the spam button should be re-positioned where it is less likely to be "hit" accidently. I feel that they both, and predecessors both fully met Martin's philosophy

    Very unhappy MSEer today
    • JIL
    • By JIL 12th Jan 18, 10:17 PM
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    I didn't get a reply to my last post so I have posted it on site feedback is that the correct thing to do?
    • Nargleblast
    • By Nargleblast 13th Jan 18, 12:35 PM
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    I can!!!8217;t see where hitting the spam button has anything to do with disappearing threads. As someone else has already said, as soon as you hit the spam button you get a message in the middle of your screen thanking you for reporting the post as spam. All you have to do is close that message then hit the Not Spam button to undo your mistake. Believe me, I have done this loads of times, it is indeed easy to hit the spam button by mistake. Maybe the admin bods can clarify why threads disappear?
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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 16th Jan 18, 8:14 PM
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    Zippychick could you please close the KonMari 2017 thread, we've got anew one. I PMd you but perhaps this has gone awol.


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    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 18th Jan 18, 8:38 PM
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    I can!!!8217;t see where hitting the spam button has anything to do with disappearing threads. As someone else has already said, as soon as you hit the spam button you get a message in the middle of your screen thanking you for reporting the post as spam. All you have to do is close that message then hit the Not Spam button to undo your mistake. Believe me, I have done this loads of times, it is indeed easy to hit the spam button by mistake. Maybe the admin bods can clarify why threads disappear?
    Originally posted by Nargleblast

    Andreas post at the start of this thread explains it


    Having checked both mentioned threads it does seem the same issue has occurred.

    I have flagged both up to Andrea as part of the ongoing issue. This issue is well outside of my control I'm afraid

    to quote my first post in this thread
    * Sadly, myself or the Forum team aren't able to reinstate threads auto deleted in this way. The forum team have confirmed it's for legal reasons as we would be deemed as "publishing" the information, and would be liable for the content on the threads. I'm unable to comment on or discuss the teams stance on this. I first checked they were happy with the way I have explained this
    I suggested the site feedback board to give feedback on this precise issue as we have no more input here. Suggestions may include moving the spam button to stop the issue happening

    It is simple to undo an incorrectly clicked spam button. Sadly, if someone hits it by accident, they may not realise the consequences and just leave it ticked as spam. If enough people do this, the spam count goes up.

    I have every sympathy, lost content is very upsetting so you have my sympathy.

    Sorry I'm unable to help more.

    Kindest regards

    Zip
    A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
    Norn Iron club member #380

    • bob_a_builder
    • By bob_a_builder 26th Jan 18, 5:00 PM
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    Still don't understand why a whole thread has to be deleted due to too many spam hits
    MSE response is they would be responsible for publishing it
    but
    The spam button refer to a specific post which someone believe to be spam, either genuinely or accidentally, so auto delete those posts not the whole thread

    And generally in programming systems, Auto Deleting something very rarely actually deletes anything, it just marks it so that it won't be shown and or held for review prior to actual deletion

    Don't see this problem reported being reported on the vBulletin support forums much ?
    • mac.d
    • By mac.d 28th Jan 18, 2:31 PM
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    Possibly someone is deliberately targetting threads by using the spam button, it appears to be an automated process triggered by spam reports, and perhaps picking the opening post in a thread as spam just deletes the entire thread?
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