Dynorod caused big leak in ceiling, asbestos query-urgent plse
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'Artex' is now used as a generic term to cover all textured coatings. It's shorter than saying "textured coatings."
Artex may well contain white asbestos in small quantities, and being locked within the coating, it's not dangerous. If the coating is broken, drilled etc then there will probably be some small risk, which can be mitigated by good practice. Where the holes were made, some of the artex was obviously damaged, but as it was wet at the time, very little dust would have resulted.
I can't read the HSE guidance for you. If you read it, you'll find that it's not necessary to employ an specialist asbestos removal company to deal with artex-type coatings. Therefore, if you want one to tackle this, you will have to foot the bill yourself for the extra costs involved.
I'm also a pensioner. Two years ago, I had almost every ceiling in my bungalow replaced, removing all the old ones myself, including artex-type coatings. I followed good practice and disposed of all the waste materials in the correct manner. The company that accepted them did not place any special conditions on that material, as they would with asbestos itself, showing that they also considered the risk to be minimal.0 -
If the ceiling is starting to sag and cracking the insurance company may replace the whole ceiling.As for asbestos worries,if the ceiling is damp you will be ok as it is the dust that normally causes the problem.Also as has been mentioned on this thread the amount of asbestos in an artexed ceiling is minimal so try to stop worrying.ITS NOT EASY TO GET EVERYTHING WRONG ,I HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DO IT!0
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Have BG got there insurance to deal with it or are the dyno guys that did the work patching it back up, if it is tested and does contain asbestos they may offer the going rate to repair the damage and then leave with you to sort as they may not touch the asbestos, the health and safety in BG is taken very seriously.
Dynorod called me this morning and said they are getting it done through their insurers and the company that would do the work is coming out tomorrow morning.
The Dynorod plumber booked it in for a patch repair, saying that part of the ceiling would be cut away, replaced and then the area skimmed.
I really don't know how to handle this, I'm not looking forward to them coming.Money, money, money, must be funny, in the rich man's World!0 -
Have you read your terms and conditions relating to asbestos, I would have a guess it says they will not pay for the removal of it.
It says under Working in dangerous or unsafe conditions:
If any asbestos needs to be removed before we can repair your boiler, appliance or system, you’ll need to arrange and pay for someone else to remove it and give you a Certificate of Reoccupation which you’ll need to show us.
But I just want the ceiling repaired and if it does contain asbestos, surely that's not my fault but the stupid plumber who simply didn't tighten the bath taps. Plus it's not an appliance, boiler or system they would be working on, but damage caused by themselves.Money, money, money, must be funny, in the rich man's World!0 -
'Artex' is now used as a generic term to cover all textured coatings. It's shorter than saying "textured coatings."
Artex may well contain white asbestos in small quantities, and being locked within the coating, it's not dangerous. If the coating is broken, drilled etc then there will probably be some small risk, which can be mitigated by good practice. Where the holes were made, some of the artex was obviously damaged, but as it was wet at the time, very little dust would have resulted.
I can't read the HSE guidance for you. If you read it, you'll find that it's not necessary to employ an specialist asbestos removal company to deal with artex-type coatings. Therefore, if you want one to tackle this, you will have to foot the bill yourself for the extra costs involved.
I'm also a pensioner. Two years ago, I had almost every ceiling in my bungalow replaced, removing all the old ones myself, including artex-type coatings. I followed good practice and disposed of all the waste materials in the correct manner. The company that accepted them did not place any special conditions on that material, as they would with asbestos itself, showing that they also considered the risk to be minimal.
But it will be cut into when they replace that part of the ceiling, so if there's asbestos there it will be released as it's probably dry now.Money, money, money, must be funny, in the rich man's World!0 -
If the ceiling is starting to sag and cracking the insurance company may replace the whole ceiling.As for asbestos worries,if the ceiling is damp you will be ok as it is the dust that normally causes the problem.Also as has been mentioned on this thread the amount of asbestos in an artexed ceiling is minimal so try to stop worrying.
There is a slight sag, which the plumber pointed out, but he made no mention of the whole ceiling being replaced. The damp is drying out now I think as the smell is not quite as bad, so when they cut into it to replace it, if there's asbestos it will be released. However minimal, if asbestos is going to be released, you can understand my worry.Money, money, money, must be funny, in the rich man's World!0 -
ceredigion wrote: »I think you should retract that statement, as it is very misleading
https://www.aic.org.uk/asbestos-in-artex/"You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"0 -
littlewren wrote: »It says under Working in dangerous or unsafe conditions:
If any asbestos needs to be removed before we can repair your boiler, appliance or system, you’ll need to arrange and pay for someone else to remove it and give you a Certificate of Reoccupation which you’ll need to show us.
This statement is in regards asbestos used as insulation or lagging - It isn't the sort of problem you'd come across in most modern houses. Perhaps in tower blocks constructed in the 1950/60s or some really old heating systems.
Asbestos as part of a textured coating (Artex) is relatively benign and of low risk. Do not stress yourself by reading too much in to that statement.Her courage will change the world.
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.0 -
If the damage to the roof is a result of the companies actions, then it is up to them to rectify it. They have offered to do it, but you are rightly concerned with the release of asbestos from the damaged artex.
You have to now test for asbestos, as they damaged the roof. They have refused to pay.
What I'd suggest at the moment, is to find an asbestos pro in your area to come round, advise and test. I have had a situation in my property where I had to vacate due to a tradesmans negligence, and was fortunate enough to find an excellent local asbestos company who helped me from start to finish. I had to deal with high content asbestos; think of it as vodka and artex beer.
It should cost you less than £50 to get that step sorted. Then get the damage to your roof repaired straight away.
Once your sitting at home comfortably, you could write to the tradesman informing him that they damaged the roof and as a result you had to pay for an asbestos test, and go through the trauma of a leak etc. You feel that they should cover the cost of the test. Take photos and document all the damage caused.
Its up to you how far you want to take it, some companies dont want bad reviews to dog them over £50ish, some cowboys dont care.
The important thing right now is to get the damage sorted.0 -
If the damage to the roof is a result of the companies actions, then it is up to them to rectify it. They have offered to do it, but you are rightly concerned with the release of asbestos from the damaged artex.
You have to now test for asbestos, as they damaged the roof. They have refused to pay.
What I'd suggest at the moment, is to find an asbestos pro in your area to come round, advise and test. I have had a situation in my property where I had to vacate due to a tradesmans negligence, and was fortunate enough to find an excellent local asbestos company who helped me from start to finish. I had to deal with high content asbestos; think of it as vodka and artex beer.
It should cost you less than £50 to get that step sorted. Then get the damage to your roof repaired straight away.
Once your sitting at home comfortably, you could write to the tradesman informing him that they damaged the roof and as a result you had to pay for an asbestos test, and go through the trauma of a leak etc. You feel that they should cover the cost of the test. Take photos and document all the damage caused.
Its up to you how far you want to take it, some companies dont want bad reviews to dog them over £50ish, some cowboys dont care.
The important thing right now is to get the damage sorted.
I'm confused now, how did Dynorod damage the roof changing the bath tap ?0
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