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  • Carpi09
    Carpi09 Posts: 300 Forumite
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    Still going strong, shame I couldn't add any more within the tax wrapper.

    Just bumping should any new comers come along with questions about VLS.
    :j

    Planning for my future early

    :T Thank you to the members of the MSE Forum :T
  • I am looking at global healthcare funds maybe for the side to my VLS and other side funds. Any ideas anyone?

    Looking at this on HL

    http://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices--and--factsheets/search-results/s/schroder-global-healthcare-accumulation

    I have the VLS60% as the core
    First State Asian Pacific Leaders
    First State Emerging Markets
    Aberdeen Asian Small Companies
    Aberdeen Japanese Small Companies
    Standard Life Global Small Cap

    I have around £2500 coming next month from a bond, I think I will raise my VLS core up with £1000 of it, at present it is 60% and want to raise it more towards 70%. I could use £500 maybe for a new fund like Healthcare as another sector added. I might keep £1000 in cash savings from it.

    Any thoughts be interested to hear.

    Thanks.
  • Eponym
    Eponym Posts: 303 Forumite
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    I am looking at global healthcare funds maybe for the side to my VLS and other side funds. Any ideas anyone?

    If you fancy a tracker, I have this:

    http://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices--and--factsheets/search-results/l/legal-and-general-gbl-health-and-pharma-index-r-accumulation

    (Also comes in Income form)

    The fees are 1% so not as low as an ordinary tracker but about 0.5% lower than most actively managed healthcare funds.
  • Eponym wrote: »
    I am looking at global healthcare funds maybe for the side to my VLS and other side funds. Any ideas anyone?

    If you fancy a tracker, I have this:

    http://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices--and--factsheets/search-results/l/legal-and-general-gbl-health-and-pharma-index-r-accumulation

    (Also comes in Income form)

    The fees are 1% so not as low as an ordinary tracker but about 0.5% lower than most actively managed healthcare funds.

    Thank you for this information, yes a tracker is a good option as well, for some reason I never thought to check for a tracker and was looking at the funds. This looks to be very interesting and covers some of the companies that was in the fund and also cheaper as you mentioned at 1% for the fees.

    Thank you, I will look over this more and consider this when the bond I have coming in clears.
  • latecomer
    latecomer Posts: 4,321 Forumite
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    Carpi09 wrote: »
    Still going strong, shame I couldn't add any more within the tax wrapper.

    Just bumping should any new comers come along with questions about VLS.

    Still watching (and researching). Not invested yet......
  • bowlhead99
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    Thank you for this information, yes a tracker is a good option as well, for some reason I never thought to check for a tracker and was looking at the funds. This looks to be very interesting and covers some of the companies that was in the fund and also cheaper as you mentioned at 1% for the fees.
    Personally I don't really buy in to the idea of using trackers for highly specialist areas such as emerging markets or smaller companies or sector specialisms, as I've mentioned elsewhere on this thread. They have their uses for getting broad access to well developed markets (eg US and Europe and Japan and UK largecaps) but once you pick a specialist area I'd expect intimate industry knowledge to play a valuable part in stock selection and not just grab the 130 largest companies in the area in which you're looking.

    After all, you are adopting an active approach in singling out healthcare as a good area to be invested in as part of a thematicly driven portfolio; therefore you are saying that a more 'passive' approach isn't doing it for you so you want to pick themes; if you believe in making such active decisions, and are only an amateur newbie investor, why would you not then trust a professional fund manager to pick a company or type of company within that remit? It can't be because you want to just "buy everything" - because clearly you have avoided buying everything, in your choice to single out a niche like heathcare.

    If you're going to go the tracker route for healthcare / pharma there are a number of ETFs which will track highly specialist global, US or EM indices at half a percent or so management fee- if you don't want active management you don't need to be paying a whole percent.

    FYI, I hold BIOG which is an investment trust in the sector which has done extremely well over the last few years (past performance is not guarantee of future etc etc). It is very specialist and a tracker would be more diverse and more mainstream, but I wasn't looking for a diverse mainstream investment when I decided that biotech/ pharma/ healthcare should get a healthy (excuse the pun) allocation in one of my Sipp pots.

    BIOG and some other ITs and ETFs are mentioned on this Investors Chronicle article "Big profits from global healthcare" which is a year old now. There will be lots of commentaries on the industry via google et al, and it goes without saying you should look at all the recent reports and factsheets and prospectuses for all the relevant funds / ITs / ETFs in detail before making your own choices.
  • bowlhead99 wrote: »
    Personally I don't really buy in to the idea of using trackers for highly specialist areas such as emerging markets or smaller companies or sector specialisms, as I've mentioned elsewhere on this thread. They have their uses for getting broad access to well developed markets (eg US and Europe and Japan and UK largecaps) but once you pick a specialist area I'd expect intimate industry knowledge to play a valuable part in stock selection and not just grab the 130 largest companies in the area in which you're looking.

    After all, you are adopting an active approach in singling out healthcare as a good area to be invested in as part of a thematicly driven portfolio; therefore you are saying that a more 'passive' approach isn't doing it for you so you want to pick themes; if you believe in making such active decisions, and are only an amateur newbie investor, why would you not then trust a professional fund manager to pick a company or type of company within that remit? It can't be because you want to just "buy everything" - because clearly you have avoided buying everything, in your choice to single out a niche like heathcare.

    If you're going to go the tracker route for healthcare / pharma there are a number of ETFs which will track highly specialist global, US or EM indices at half a percent or so management fee- if you don't want active management you don't need to be paying a whole percent.

    FYI, I hold BIOG which is an investment trust in the sector which has done extremely well over the last few years (past performance is not guarantee of future etc etc). It is very specialist and a tracker would be more diverse and more mainstream, but I wasn't looking for a diverse mainstream investment when I decided that biotech/ pharma/ healthcare should get a healthy (excuse the pun) allocation in one of my Sipp pots.

    BIOG and some other ITs and ETFs are mentioned on this Investors Chronicle article "Big profits from global healthcare" which is a year old now. There will be lots of commentaries on the industry via google et al, and it goes without saying you should look at all the recent reports and factsheets and prospectuses for all the relevant funds / ITs / ETFs in detail before making your own choices.

    Thank you again Bowlhead for your informative reply, you have answered some of my thinking and questions earlier this year and it is appreciated your thoughts.

    Very valid point regarding a highly specialist area with a tracker vs fund and active management with funds in these niche sectors.



    Around the edges of the VLS core I have picked areas of interest and thought about them and looked into them for each of the funds I have taken with a couple of niche selections and a focus on small companies as well. I am new and a novice so try to understand what I am taking out etc before I do so.

    I am not the buy everything type and kind of like some niche areas around the edges, like the Asian Small Cap funds etc I have. I was looking also to maybe balance out the small caps I have with a UK Small Cap fund and balance Asia a bit.

    I looked at Healthcare as a long term sector for a bit of niche exposure into a global industry that is actively needed and used, as I have a selection of Small Companies and Asian and Emerging Markets funds.



    Also I will look to raise my VLS core to around 65%/70%. If I ran it at 70% and had 6 side funds with even allocation that would give them 5% each in the portfolio over all, that was my thinking. I guess with the VLS portion as the core I am passive, but looking partly for selections and coverage elsewhere outside of it which is the active part.


    I am happy with what I have so far and running the VLS as the core with those percentages I don’t think I would add to much more, so that was why it was quite a selective choice healthcare and the other idea was rounding the small companies off with a UK fund.

    I was looking at funds at first for Healthcare and think they would be more suited with my amounts for rotating on my monthly drip feeds. If I am right an ETF or IT might not be as low cost to drip feed with smaller regular amounts. The tracker was of interest to look at, but can see that an active fund in my mind also now would be a better for a niche sector.

    Thank you for the link to the article. I have been reading also through google as well and looking funds up etc and details on them. I don’t have to jump at Healthcare or anything so can look more.

    I do want to raise my VLS core up more from the present 60% so I will look at £1000 into it early September when my bond clears. My First State Asian Pacific Leaders I will most likely put £400 into to bring it to the same level as the rest of my side funds and then my allocations will be more in line with my idea.

    Thank you as always for your input it is appreciated.
  • bigadaj
    bigadaj Posts: 11,531 Forumite
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    Intuitively I have always agreed with bowleheads comments but am now becoming less sure. Hale argues against it in smarter investing, though I don't agree with all of his points in that book.

    More recently there was a thread on here staing that investments in vanguard global smaller co,panties index had out performed all the actively managed funds in that sector, which would be one area in which you would expect managed funds to have a distinct advantage. This is obviously anecdotal over a particular timespan but was an interesting point.

    I hold the land g fund and it has done well for me, you can get it cheaper than 1% depending in where you buy, charles Stanley direct seems the cheapest currently.
  • Totton
    Totton Posts: 981 Forumite
    If buying satellite funds to go with a VLS core then I agree that you should use an active fund or perhaps an IT, whilst a passive may beat the specialist sector as an average, it is unlikely to beat a well researched choice from the sector. For example, Biotech Trust, Worldwide Healthcare IT, Axa Framlington Biotech fund etc.

    For me the basis of a core and satellite approach fits perfectly to a VLS 60 or 80 @ 65% with 35% in active satellites. Another use is to go defensive with your sats and hold a lot of safer stuff when worried about the markets.
  • takesyourchances
    takesyourchances Posts: 828 Forumite
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    edited 26 July 2013 at 12:21AM
    Totton wrote: »
    If buying satellite funds to go with a VLS core then I agree that you should use an active fund or perhaps an IT, whilst a passive may beat the specialist sector as an average, it is unlikely to beat a well researched choice from the sector. For example, Biotech Trust, Worldwide Healthcare IT, Axa Framlington Biotech fund etc.

    For me the basis of a core and satellite approach fits perfectly to a VLS 60 or 80 @ 65% with 35% in active satellites. Another use is to go defensive with your sats and hold a lot of safer stuff when worried about the markets.

    I think that 65% is a good core also to allow for the satellite approach as well. I will see where I am at come September when I add the bit of a lump sum and in the mean time I am still drip feeding. I think I will be at least 65% VLS core soon.

    I have preferred the actively managed funds for the side funds when selecting what I have so far.

    I was looking at the Invesco Perpetual High Income fund and I see that around 30% of it is in the pharmaceutical sector, maybe this is a less volatile way to gain some pharmaceutical healthcare exposure within a mixed fund like this than going all out 100% niche at it and gain a few other mixes. Any ideas anyone?

    http://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices--and--factsheets/search-results/i/invesco-perpetual-high-income-accumulation

    Just turning some ideas over here :)
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