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    • 6th Jun 19, 12:47 PM
    Income support 6th Jun 19 at 12:47 PM
    Hi ive recently been reported for living with someone which isnt true. They know im in a relationship and i hope to move in with him by the end of the year. However they want to see bank statements relating to compensation ive recieved. The childrens daddys name is all over my statements as he would transfer money in for the kids when hes working abroad, or if they needed clothes, birthdays and xmas ect. I didnt tell income support that it was maintenance as i geuinely thought that was a lump sum put in every month which he doesnt do. Im worried now that they will put 2 and 2 together and either think im living with him or im getting more money than i should be. Hes been doing this for yearsss. Should i be worried. What could happen, im so afraid. Ive been honest with them at the interview so im hoping all will be ok but im worried
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    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 6th Jun 19, 2:03 PM
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    calcotti
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    • 6th Jun 19, 2:03 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 2:03 PM
    Child maintenance is ignored as income.
    • KatrinaWaves
    • By KatrinaWaves 6th Jun 19, 2:17 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 2:17 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 2:17 PM
    Is your partner the same person as your 'childrens dad' Your post is unclear on that.
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    • 6th Jun 19, 5:28 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 5:28 PM
    Sorry, yes my partner is their daddy
    • KatrinaWaves
    • By KatrinaWaves 6th Jun 19, 7:04 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 7:04 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 7:04 PM
    Jus provide proof of your partners other home. You say he works away, Iím assuming he has another home when he comes back to the UK as he didnít live with you.

    If he has no other home, you are in a relationship and have children together it may be that claiming as a single person was not the correct thing to do...
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    • 8th Jun 19, 12:11 PM
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    • 8th Jun 19, 12:11 PM
    Hi, yes he has another adress here. Hes never guaranteed work away. Im afraid that the money he sends to me for the kids and because i didnt claim it as maintenance that they will class it as capital (income) and it will seem like i havent been truthful. My anxiety is through the roof
    • kingfisherblue
    • By kingfisherblue 8th Jun 19, 6:59 PM
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    • 8th Jun 19, 6:59 PM
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    • 8th Jun 19, 6:59 PM
    Hi ive recently been reported for living with someone which isnt true. They know im in a relationship and i hope to move in with him by the end of the year. However they want to see bank statements relating to compensation ive recieved. The childrens daddys name is all over my statements as he would transfer money in for the kids when hes working abroad, or if they needed clothes, birthdays and xmas ect. I didnt tell income support that it was maintenance as i geuinely thought that was a lump sum put in every month which he doesnt do. Im worried now that they will put 2 and 2 together and either think im living with him or im getting more money than i should be. Hes been doing this for yearsss. Should i be worried. What could happen, im so afraid. Ive been honest with them at the interview so im hoping all will be ok but im worried
    Originally posted by Danik1989

    You describe him in another post as your partner. He is also your children's dad. You don't have to live together to be partners and it may be that your claim has been incorrect.



    It looks as though you are suddenly worried because you have received money from him into your bank, but that is not actually why they (Council? DWP? Who?) want to see your bank statements - they want to view them because of compensation received. This implies that you know you may have done something wrong.
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    • By just trying 8th Jun 19, 11:54 PM
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    • 8th Jun 19, 11:54 PM
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    • 8th Jun 19, 11:54 PM
    You describe him in another post as your partner. He is also your children's dad. You don't have to live together to be partners and it may be that your claim has been incorrect.



    It looks as though you are suddenly worried because you have received money from him into your bank, but that is not actually why they (Council? DWP? Who?) want to see your bank statements - they want to view them because of compensation received. This implies that you know you may have done something wrong.
    Originally posted by kingfisherblue
    Think she thought they wanted her in for a interview due to compensation now it's to do with partner possibly living with her she's been reported for. She'll have to now show bank statements showing everything.

    Hopefully she's no telling fibs to claim benefits! As they may well have been watching her.
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    • FBaby
    • By FBaby 9th Jun 19, 7:50 AM
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    • 9th Jun 19, 7:50 AM
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    • 9th Jun 19, 7:50 AM
    Did you ever lived together? When did you split and get back together? Does he pay rent on another place or is his other residence his parents/friends.

    Being in a relationship with your kids' father claiming you are not living together is the hardest position to defend to claim benefits as a single parent.
  • archived user
    He is my partner as we are in a relationship now which i told them at the interview. Hes never lived with me, i pay all my bills, my bank statements will show this. Yes they want to see my statements to see what i have spent my compensation on but i have also stated on my statements where he has given me money what it has been for such as toy stores at birthday times. Surely if the money he is sending me is for the children then what is it that i have done wrong?
  • archived user
    I havent thought i had done anything wrong until i had my interview. I have no issue paying money back if him sending me money was wrong, if they think i should make a joint claim then i will. I had no idea these things were wrong as when you search online nothing is in black and white. As to how often hes allowed to visit or is he allowed to sleep over a nyt. I didnt even no maintenance wasnt means tested until afterwards when i googled it. The compliance officer told me to write on the statements what the transactions are and who from so im just doing as i was told.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 16th Jun 19, 10:18 PM
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    Child maintenance isn't classed as income when calculating any means tested benefits.



    However, as he is the father of your children then they could say that you shouldn't have been claiming as a single person. If this happens then you'll end up having an overpayment of benefits and possibly a fine on top.
  • archived user
    Ive been going to back to work interviews every 6 months if it was an issue why didnt they tell me that then. Surely theres people that have children to the 1 man but arent living together? How do they decide if i was falsely claiming, because i didnt know i was doing something wrong would it help if me and him made a joint claim now? Or should i just wait for them to contact me
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 17th Jun 19, 5:52 AM
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    Wait to see what they decide. You haven’t necessarily done anything wrong. At the moment DWP are simply investigating in order to decide. Many investigations show nothing is wrong.

    If he only stays occasionally and you are not living together and if the money is child maintenance then it should be OK.

    The compensation payment you referred to in one of your posts may be an issue depending on how much it was. If it was injuries compensation I think it is possible to put it into a trust which removes it from consideration but this needs to be done within 12 months of receiving the money.
    Last edited by calcotti; 17-06-2019 at 5:58 AM.
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 17th Jun 19, 7:36 AM
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    DWP may require a written statement from the person depositing the money into your account stating that he is the father of the children and the money is intended for child maintenance.
    As has already been said, not actually living in the same property doesn't automatically mean you won't be treated as a couple for benefit purposes.
  • archived user
    Yea the compensation was from victim support so i will have 52 weeks before they need to take it into consideration. I got a large amount and only paid debt off and got furniture. The rest is still sitting there. Its very difficult to know whats right or wrong as everything online is pretty vague.
    I had no idea that they treat you as a couple claiming benefits when not living together. I wish this was made clear to me at my back to work interviews.
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 17th Jun 19, 8:06 AM
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    calcotti
    I had no idea that they treat you as a couple claiming benefits when not living together. I wish this was made clear to me at my back to work interviews.
    Originally posted by Danik1989
    In most cases they won’t. From what you have posted, particularly that your childrens’ father has another address that he normally lives at, I don’t think you will be. However you will just have to wait and see.

    If the outstanding compensation, together with any other capital you have, is less than £6,000 it will make no difference to your benefits even when it is taken into account. If it will be more than this and is Criminal Injuries Compensation then, as mentioned previously, I believe it is possible to place the compensation money in a trust which means that it will be ignored indefinitely.
    Last edited by calcotti; 17-06-2019 at 8:15 AM.
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