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    • andyca
    • By andyca 13th Oct 19, 7:33 PM
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    SORN before selling
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    • 13th Oct 19, 7:33 PM
    SORN before selling 13th Oct 19 at 7:33 PM
    Hi,



    The Road Tax is due on my car at the end of October, but I'm in the middle of selling it; I have a deposit, collection and final payment arranged for the 2nd November.


    The new owner will be taxing it and insuring it on the 2nd in order to drive it home....


    Do I need to SORN it for a single day, or will the DVLA work out what has happened?
    I'm assuming as you can only tax for full calendar months it will be taxed for October and November, so no problem right?
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    • Simby
    • By Simby 13th Oct 19, 7:37 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 7:37 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 7:37 PM
    It would be best to either pay your road tax renewal and then claim a refund or SORN it.. even one day is a big risk

    I personally would not take the risk but would make sure I was legal at all times

    If you got caught you would have to declare on future car insurance etc so would cost more in the long run
    • EdGasketTheSecond
    • By EdGasketTheSecond 13th Oct 19, 7:42 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 7:42 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 7:42 PM
    technically you need to SORN it. It costs nothing so why not do it?
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 13th Oct 19, 7:43 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 7:43 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 7:43 PM
    although the info above is valid

    I would not worry for ONE day

    and re reading post above
    "If you got caught you would have to declare on future car insurance etc so would cost more in the long run"


    to my knowledge a DVLA fine for non tax , is not something you have to inform insurance about
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • andyca
    • By andyca 13th Oct 19, 8:20 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 8:20 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 8:20 PM
    Thanks for the replies, just to clarify i won't be driving it on the 1st and it will be parked on the drive so no chance of 'getting caught'


    Might just do it online, I've never done a SORN so I just assumed it was complicated or might mean more hassle for the new buyer etc to un-SORN it.
    • SHAFT
    • By SHAFT 13th Oct 19, 8:59 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 8:59 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 8:59 PM
    It would be best to either pay your road tax renewal and then claim a refund or SORN it.. even one day is a big risk

    I personally would not take the risk but would make sure I was legal at all times

    If you got caught you would have to declare on future car insurance etc so would cost more in the long run
    Originally posted by Simby
    Which insurance companies ask about a dvla fine or non endorsable offences?
    • SHAFT
    • By SHAFT 13th Oct 19, 9:00 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 9:00 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 9:00 PM
    Thanks for the replies, just to clarify i won't be driving it on the 1st and it will be parked on the drive so no chance of 'getting caught'


    Might just do it online, I've never done a SORN so I just assumed it was complicated or might mean more hassle for the new buyer etc to un-SORN it.
    Originally posted by andyca
    If you declare it sorn at the end of October where's your nearest post office for the new keeper to tax it?
    • andyca
    • By andyca 13th Oct 19, 9:18 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 9:18 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 9:18 PM
    If you declare it SORN at the end of October where's your nearest post office for the new keeper to tax it?
    Originally posted by SHAFT

    Just around the corner... But I'm guessing they will do it on their phone.
    • andyca
    • By andyca 13th Oct 19, 9:32 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 9:32 PM
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    • 13th Oct 19, 9:32 PM
    Just went through the form online and it's really easy... it even says the SORN start date is 1st November!


    Then on the confirmation page it says:
    "Once a SORN is made, you will not be able to transact online for 5 days. The vehicle can be taxed at the Post Office during this period."


    Just as I suspected the bureaucracy is lurking around every corner.
    I'll leave it for now and try to get confirmation from the DVLA tomorrow on best practices... failing that I'll give the new buyer a lift to the post office.
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 13th Oct 19, 9:36 PM
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    however if you do a change of owner via dvla online whilst the person is at your house , you can follow it by a retax , using new owner and there debit card

    you use number from new keeper slip , not v5
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • SHAFT
    • By SHAFT 13th Oct 19, 9:48 PM
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    Just around the corner... But I'm guessing they will do it on their phone.
    Originally posted by andyca
    No if you've declared it sorn online.
    • andyca
    • By andyca 13th Oct 19, 9:56 PM
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    however if you do a change of owner via dvla online whilst the person is at your house , you can follow it by a retax , using new owner and there debit card

    you use number from new keeper slip , not v5
    Originally posted by twhitehousescat

    Interesting... I can't test that out because it's only available 7AM to 7PM. But I'll have a look in the morning. Thanks!
    That slightly different reference number does say underneath "Use this to tax online"
    Last edited by andyca; 13-10-2019 at 9:58 PM.
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