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    • benten69
    • By benten69 29th Aug 16, 7:59 AM
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    Do you tip in restaurants?
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    • 29th Aug 16, 7:59 AM
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    Do you tip in restaurants? 29th Aug 16 at 7:59 AM
    Wasn't sure if this was the right place to put this, so admin, please move if needed.

    Do you guys (and girls) tip when you go for a meal out? Personally I hate the idea, and it's even worse when you've got the waiter standing next to you as you select "No" on the card machine.

    However, I always say that I don't get tips for doing anything extra and providing good levels of service in my job, so why should I pay others extra for a basic service their employers should be paying them for. In my previous role I saved the company £20,000 a day in penalties by delivering the project on time (a week early in fact), but I didn't get anything extra for it, because quite simply, it was my job.

    Hence, I don't agree with tipping. They are doing a job & getting their hourly rate, so why do I need to subsidize it? Tesco don't tell me to pay extra if I go to a till vs going to the self checkout.

    However, if there is a large group of us and say the bill comes out to £18 each, we'll all chuck in £20 and let the waiter / waitress keep the change. That's the only scenario it works in for me, as it saves everyone the hassle of finding change, waiting to get their change, etc.

    What are peoples thoughts?
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    • Cefca
    • By Cefca 21st Mar 19, 6:41 PM
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    The wages are rubbish, the work is hard, and yes the establishments should pay a living wage but the reality is that they rarely do.
    Originally posted by amber_cloud

    This is also the case for many other jobs in many other industries.
    • z1a
    • By z1a 23rd Mar 19, 3:47 PM
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    It is not an instruction, it is a sensible suggestion which does not warrant a sarcastic reply on this forum.
    Originally posted by REJP
    It does .
    • Daisymoo73
    • By Daisymoo73 23rd Mar 19, 6:23 PM
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    I used to be told that tipping helped make up for a lack of wages. As someone on minimum wage who hardly ever goes out I no longer tip. I grew up with my mum tipping hairdressers and my dad tipping virtually everyone, but I believe that times have changed.
    • eka5757
    • By eka5757 23rd Mar 19, 10:06 PM
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    I do tip, and agree that the employer should pay their staff a proper wage. However, I do know that most restaurant staff are paid minimum wage, so feel if every customer just tips £1 and they serve 5 customers a night, they would be £25 per week better off.
    • shinydoc
    • By shinydoc 24th Mar 19, 7:50 AM
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    Why?
    A long thread, which I confess that I havenít read in full, as I have my own views.

    I hate tipping, as I donít get a tip for doing a good job and you donít tip in McDonalds who are also on minimum wage.

    All the time we continue to tip, we subsidise the pay for that industry. If we are suggesting that their basic pay is not sufficient, then people should not do it and then the pay will have to increase to attract the staff!?
    • NBLondon
    • By NBLondon 25th Mar 19, 8:09 AM
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    especially if they've gone out of their way to make sure you've had a nice time?
    Originally posted by amber_cloud
    That's why you tip. If they haven't gone out of their way and have only done the minimum necessary - that's minimum wage.
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    • Takmon
    • By Takmon 25th Mar 19, 9:13 AM
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    That's why you tip. If they haven't gone out of their way and have only done the minimum necessary - that's minimum wage.
    Originally posted by NBLondon
    I don't think the customer should be "expected" to tip under any circumstances. If a member of staff is doing a good job and is keeping the customers happy (which makes them want to return) then the restaurant employing them should be rewarding the staff for doing a good job and giving the place a good reputation.

    You should be able to go into a restaurant and receive a certain level of service as standard depending on the cost/reputation of the place.

    Even if someone is paid minimum wage it doesn't mean they should be able to get away with offering bare minimum service if the restaurant expect the staff to do better.
    • Sheldon6363
    • By Sheldon6363 25th Mar 19, 7:22 PM
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    As a former waiter I always tip. The fact is, it is not an easy job. Long hours on your feet, customers giving you **** for things that aren't your fault. That job is not worth the minimum or near minimum wage that you get for it. The hours are unsociable you have to deal with people at their worst and drunkest and rarely see friends and family because they're all at home whilst you work the evenings and weekends. Most waiters and waitresses want you to have a good experience it makes there day alot easier and they aren't trying to annoy you. Fact is for the 6/7 quid an hour you can go have a cushy job in a shop or a supermarket . No one would do the job willingly without the prospect of tips it's simply not worth the stress. Anyone who says it's easy has clearly never worked in a busy restaurant.
    • Danipat
    • By Danipat 28th Mar 19, 12:32 PM
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    If its been good service, I usually leave a tip. If theres only 2-3 of us then only £2-3 if theres 10 of us maybe £10
    • Les79
    • By Les79 28th Mar 19, 11:03 PM
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    As a former waiter I always tip. The fact is, it is not an easy job. Long hours on your feet, customers giving you **** for things that aren't your fault. That job is not worth the minimum or near minimum wage that you get for it. The hours are unsociable you have to deal with people at their worst and drunkest and rarely see friends and family because they're all at home whilst you work the evenings and weekends. Most waiters and waitresses want you to have a good experience it makes there day alot easier and they aren't trying to annoy you. Fact is for the 6/7 quid an hour you can go have a cushy job in a shop or a supermarket . No one would do the job willingly without the prospect of tips it's simply not worth the stress. Anyone who says it's easy has clearly never worked in a busy restaurant.
    Originally posted by Sheldon6363
    I *get* what you are saying, but I would also like to advise that there are equally crappy jobs (but in different ways) out there. Many of them DON'T result in tips being given.


    We don't tip the minimum wage call centre worker when we call up about a problem with one of our services and kick off at them, do we?
    • Mr_Singleton
    • By Mr_Singleton 31st Mar 19, 8:18 PM
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    Fact is for the 6/7 quid an hour you can go have a cushy job in a shop or a supermarket . No one would do the job willingly without the prospect of tips it's simply not worth the stress. Anyone who says it's easy has clearly never worked in a busy restaurant.
    Originally posted by Sheldon6363
    Youíve just gotta laff...... letís have a willy waving competition to see what the worse minimum wage job is. We can then compare it to...take order, give to kitchen, bring food & drink, clear table, bring bill. Well slap my buttocks thatís going to be tough to beat in the crappiest minimum wage job stakes.
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 1st Apr 19, 11:19 AM
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    Youíve just gotta laff...... letís have a willy waving competition to see what the worse minimum wage job is. We can then compare it to...take order, give to kitchen, bring food & drink, clear table, bring bill. Well slap my buttocks thatís going to be tough to beat in the crappiest minimum wage job stakes.
    Originally posted by Mr_Singleton
    You donít ever ask the sommelier for wine advice then?
    • jjhdee
    • By jjhdee 13th Apr 19, 11:27 PM
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    Yes. The only instance we didn't have to was during a trip to Japan where tipping is not socially acceptable and seen as an insult.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 14th Apr 19, 5:04 AM
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    As a former waiter I always tip. The fact is, it is not an easy job. Long hours on your feet, customers giving you **** for things that aren't your fault. That job is not worth the minimum or near minimum wage that you get for it. The hours are unsociable you have to deal with people at their worst and drunkest and rarely see friends and family because they're all at home whilst you work the evenings and weekends. Most waiters and waitresses want you to have a good experience it makes there day alot easier and they aren't trying to annoy you. Fact is for the 6/7 quid an hour you can go have a cushy job in a shop or a supermarket . No one would do the job willingly without the prospect of tips it's simply not worth the stress. Anyone who says it's easy has clearly never worked in a busy restaurant.
    Originally posted by Sheldon6363
    As an ex waitress I would like to see tipping abandoned as the old fashioned practice it is and a fair wage for the job paid.

    I remember in the 80s my mum who had a job where her minimum wage was minimal & she made two thirds of her income on the tips.
    Well she got breast cancer and was looking at months off, on a minimum wage that wouldnít cover her bills.
    The wage should be realistic, put the prices up to cover and scrap tipping.
    • Cefca
    • By Cefca 15th Apr 19, 4:56 PM
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    As an ex waitress I would like to see tipping abandoned as the old fashioned practice it is and a fair wage for the job paid.
    Originally posted by Kim kim

    They already do get a fair wage, in the UK at least.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 15th Apr 19, 5:39 PM
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    Yes, for good service and a good meal. Isn't that what I'm there for?

    No, If service is terrible and/or the meal is rubbish. If the waiter service was good, but the food was not, I explain that is why there will be no tip.

    Does that put this interminable, never-ending Topic to bed?
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
    • Marvel1
    • By Marvel1 15th Apr 19, 10:13 PM
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    Strange one, food is good you tip the waiter/waitress, last time i checked they didn't cook the food.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 15th Apr 19, 10:32 PM
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    Strange one, food is good you tip the waiter/waitress, last time i checked they didn't cook the food.
    Originally posted by Marvel1
    The whole thing is a mockery.
    Wages should be a fair wage to attract the right staff for the eating establishment. Food should be priced to include all costs.
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