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    the thinker
    DLA fraud check
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    • 18th Jul 10, 2:43 PM
    DLA fraud check 18th Jul 10 at 2:43 PM
    Hi Has anyone had a letter from DLA stating that " we have received information that puts your entitlement to DLA under suspicion " along with a 6 page review of entitlement pack ??
    I am so amazed and suprised to see it - i have completed the forms and sent them off - after 2 weeks i received a letter stating that they have written to my GP and hospital for information. I have been getting DLA HRM and MRC for the past 11 years and my last renewal was 18 months ago and was awarded as "indefinate".
    Has someone taken it upon themselves to try and challenge me and the DLA as to the validity of my claim ? ie: some sort of jealousy or whatever ? it seems odd that this should occour after my receiving my new and first mobility car !! I am at twos and sixes as to what the results will be - i am of course doing NOTHING illegal and my claim is genuine. Also i have a new GP at one of these "new GP health centers " whom i have only seen a couple of times and am worried as to if he will answer the DLA questions as adequately as my old GP whom had known me for years - i hpoe so. any advice welcome thankyou.
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  • krisskross
    I take it you have no idea what "better days" are?
    Originally posted by sh1305
    Of course I do. However if someone is saying they can NEVER do something then this is rather different to saying 'I can't usually do X Y or Z but if I have a really good day then it may be possible that I can'.

    However the only people who know what exactly is written on a claim form are the DLA decision makers and the claimant.
    Last edited by krisskross; 18-07-2010 at 9:14 PM.
  • justmel
    A few years ago i recieved a letter from saying i was going to be visited by a benefits officer because they wanted to review my claim for DLA.

    The officer came to my home about 2 weeks later and explained that someone had contacted them saying i was not as ill as i said i was,the officer asked some questions,just standard things and left saying she was satisfied and her report would state that i was genuine.

    Of course i was not allowed to know who contacted them but whoever did it tripped themselves up very badly by saying i was often seen out alone driving my car,i cannot drive not only due to my illness but the simple fact that i have never had a lesson in my life.

    It was plainly obvious that whoever had done this was acting purely out of spite but thankfully it was obvious that i was no liar.

    I am sure everything will be ok for you too,it is a horrible thing to be accused of and causes a lot of stress though probably because someone gets an idea in their head that we are getting 'something for nothing' without thinking that i would love to be healthy enough to be completely indepenent of any help,good luck OP
  • kusadasi040667
    Benefit fraud
    Sadly these malicious reports are normally born out of spite & also that there is a common belief that if you report a person for benefit fraud thet you are given a payment of 50 in return for the information.It is false and any type of componsation for your costs is only looked at if the case has gone to court and found to be guilty. It is not a simple affair unlike some of the green eyed monsters.
    I know its easier said than done but try to keep focused on the fact that your claim is that of a genuine one I'm sure after all the years of being ill/disabled you will have enough support & so called evidence but I totally agree with everyone that you could do without this stress.
    There are people out there who cant be pleased for you that at last you will be mobile again & there always will be bitter people.I had the same many years ago as I had a motability car as I had a very ill child.Some peoples mentality would be its ok for you with your new car etc & couldnt understand that I would passionately reply I'd love to give this car back today as that would mean I'd have a well child! I did get called in for an interview,after looking at my child for a few mins they were so upset & wrote malicious over the file in red.
    Honestly DWP fraud do this all day every day & and can spot genuine a mile off. Even on the phone you can often tell the genuine from the fake (you really can) I wish you all the best & hope its sorted quickly so you can put it behind you K
    • Breast Cancer Survivor
    • By Breast Cancer Survivor 18th Jul 10, 9:23 PM
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    Breast Cancer Survivor
    Do you not think this would mean that no one would report anyone?

    The government WANTS possible benefit cheats reported. I think it is the duty of all of us to report anyone we suspect is claiming fraudulently.

    If someone has to prove their claim is above board so what? If I was claiming from the public purse I would be more than happy to, indeed I would expect to have to, prove my entitlement to the money I was receiving.
    Originally posted by krisskross
    No, if I knew someone was committing fraud then I wouldn't mind giving my name when reporting them.

    I'm not saying that the DWP should tell people who reported them as that would deter people.

    It would however cut out the malicious reports where people report people they don't like willy nilly causing stress to innocent people & causing extra work for the DWP that isn't needed.
    I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.
    Lucille Ball
  • krisskross
    No, if I knew someone was committing fraud then I wouldn't mind giving my name when reporting them.
    Originally posted by Breast Cancer Survivor
    You couldn't know absolutely that there was fraud unless you had sight of the claim form. Which is why we can only ever suspect.

    However I have reported someone and yes I put my name, address and phone number in the letter.

    ETA: It doesn't necessarily have to be a malicious reporting as most of you seem to think. Could be someone is simply mistaken?
    Last edited by krisskross; 18-07-2010 at 9:54 PM.
    • Indie Kid
    • By Indie Kid 18th Jul 10, 9:54 PM
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    Indie Kid
    You couldn't know absolutely that there was fraud unless you had sight of the claim form. Which is why we can only ever suspect.
    Originally posted by krisskross
    Why report them then? You must be sure that they are committing fraud.
  • krisskross
    Why report them then? You must be sure that they are committing fraud.
    Originally posted by sh1305
    And how could you be absolutely sure when you don't have all the facts? The DWP ask that you report if you think someone is committing benefit fraud. It is their job to investigate the allegation and decide.

    I think the DLA medicals will help a lot. When everyone is aware there is a fairly strict medical before the public funds are handed out then I think this will be a reassurance.
    • Breast Cancer Survivor
    • By Breast Cancer Survivor 18th Jul 10, 10:00 PM
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    Breast Cancer Survivor
    You couldn't know absolutely that there was fraud unless you had sight of the claim form. Which is why we can only ever suspect.

    However I have reported someone and yes I put my name, address and phone number in the letter.

    ETA: It doesn't necessarily have to be a malicious reporting as most of you seem to think. Could be someone is simply mistaken?
    Originally posted by krisskross
    The kind of people that do commit benefit fraud are hardly embarrassed about it so people will know if they are working cash in hand/have a partner etc.
    I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.
    Lucille Ball
  • krisskross
    The kind of people that do commit benefit fraud are hardly embarrassed about it so people will know if they are working cash in hand/have a partner etc.
    Originally posted by Breast Cancer Survivor
    I thought this thread was specifically about fraud pertaining to DLA?
    • Indie Kid
    • By Indie Kid 18th Jul 10, 10:08 PM
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    Indie Kid
    And how could you be absolutely sure when you don't have all the facts? The DWP ask that you report if you think someone is committing benefit fraud. It is their job to investigate the allegation and decide.
    Originally posted by krisskross
    So, it's acceptable to report someone when you know hardly anything? I am so glad I (hopefully, anyway) don't live anywhere near you.
    • Breast Cancer Survivor
    • By Breast Cancer Survivor 18th Jul 10, 10:09 PM
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    Breast Cancer Survivor
    I thought this thread was specifically about fraud pertaining to DLA?
    Originally posted by krisskross
    It was, I was generalising about people reporting people for benefit fraud as there have been alot of threads regarding it recently.

    Sorry op.
    I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.
    Lucille Ball
  • krisskross
    So, it's acceptable to report someone when you know hardly anything? I am so glad I (hopefully, anyway) don't live anywhere near you.
    Originally posted by sh1305
    Quite frankly you and I have so little in common that it is highly unlikely that I would ever know you well enough to be aware you were claiming DLA.

    You don't get a red DLA tattoo on your forehead or anything you know. Except in the case of a motability car with a disabled tax disc no one would know you were claiming unless you told them.
  • annies mum
    I am disabled and know i am 100% genuine, but i thank god we are all anonymous on here or if someone to offence at your post they would be singing like a canary to the DWP!! Sounds silly??? just read some of the posts on here and think again!
  • kusadasi040667
    The fraud cases that I think make everyone extra angry are the ones that claim to be a full time wheelchair user in such severe pain that they cannot do anything for themselves , then you see them running with great strength in a marathon !! Only so many get into the media but fraud cases such as marathon man , personal trainer, pole dancer & similar are unfortunately all to common. I suppose you have to have amazing gall to carry it off to that degree & really think that you wont get caught. Its hardly someone getting pocket money for walking their neighbours dog once in a blue moon . K
    • Breast Cancer Survivor
    • By Breast Cancer Survivor 18th Jul 10, 10:31 PM
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    Breast Cancer Survivor
    The fraud cases that I think make everyone extra angry are the ones that claim to be a full time wheelchair user in such severe pain that they cannot do anything for themselves , then you see them running with great strength in a marathon !! Only so many get into the media but fraud cases such as marathon man , personal trainer, pole dancer & similar are unfortunately all to common. I suppose you have to have amazing gall to carry it off to that degree & really think that you wont get caught. Its hardly someone getting pocket money for walking their neighbours dog once in a blue moon . K
    Originally posted by kusadasi040667
    I can never fathom out how these people get away with it tbh.

    I'm too honest for my own good & can't lie but even so how do they manage to fool the Doctor's?
    I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.
    Lucille Ball
    • concerned43
    • By concerned43 18th Jul 10, 10:37 PM
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    concerned43
    DLA is the hardest benefit to get. I find it hard to believe that there are any fraudulant cases. its the one benefit that needs substantial proof from many thrid parties in order to be successful. Therefore I would not worry about a reassessment as it will be a nasty green eyed monster of a neighbour who would like your new car and can't have it!
    • Indie Kid
    • By Indie Kid 18th Jul 10, 10:38 PM
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    Indie Kid
    I can never fathom out how these people get away with it tbh.

    I'm too honest for my own good & can't lie but even so how do they manage to fool the Doctor's?
    Originally posted by Breast Cancer Survivor
    I think some might actually be ill when they first claim; but don't tell the DWP when they get better.
  • kusadasi040667
    Marathon man
    I can never fathom out how these people get away with it tbh.

    I'm too honest for my own good & can't lie but even so how do they manage to fool the Doctor's?
    Originally posted by Breast Cancer Survivor
    I really don't know esp as we all will have had MRI's or whatever test would be the appropriate one for our own disabilities. Imagine having to look over your shoulder all the time & remembering your lies!! You'd be a jibbering mess wouldn't you. As much as we'd all love to leave our disabilities behind we cant but at least we are all honest K
    • Breast Cancer Survivor
    • By Breast Cancer Survivor 18th Jul 10, 10:43 PM
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    I think some might actually be ill when they first claim; but don't tell the DWP when they get better.
    Originally posted by sh1305
    Can you get better from not being able to walk?

    Surely they're GP's would mention in any reports they have to write whether the injury is likely to be temporary.

    I can walk but I wouldn't be able to run a marthon.
    I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.
    Lucille Ball
  • kusadasi040667
    Nor me but I couldn't run before I became disabled lol . Yes there are genuine cases that happens but the likes of the marathon man are looked at from that angle by medics & not wonderful ATOS to see the likelyhood of that happening & they are always very clear that not a chance have they had a miracle cure!! K
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