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    • tododo
    • By tododo 11th Feb 19, 5:46 PM
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    Some sort of DWP investigation
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    • 11th Feb 19, 5:46 PM
    Some sort of DWP investigation 11th Feb 19 at 5:46 PM
    Hi all

    Posting here for my mother who is executor of my nans estate who died just over a year ago.

    My nan was 96 when she died and had roughly 13K in the bank

    My mother has had to apply for probate for the above sum and we thought that was done and dusted and she could then distribute those funds to the beneficiaries

    Then the DWP said hold up they need to look into stuff more or less

    My nan was in a care home for about a year and due to her low savings qualified for benefit for that

    DWP have come back today and basically said they wanted to know what my nan had in 2003 and various other dates
    We have no clue what she had or did to be honest.

    We have no clue what to say or do other than to say who knows really???

    Can anybody advise - its a bit stressing on my mother - should we go and see a solicitor or something or just advise we have no clue??

    Thanks all
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    • Alice Holt
    • By Alice Holt 11th Feb 19, 6:37 PM
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    I wouldn't instruct a solicitor.

    I would go back and let the DWP know the current situation. Perhaps sent them copies of the bank account and probate / estate details.

    I would then approach the bank, to ask if they can supply previous bank statements. They may be able to go back 6 years. Keep a copy of the letter (and the banks response), so you can give a copy to the DWP if necessary
    I can't see how you can go back to 2003.

    If the DWP get difficult - then involve your MP and see if your local CAB can suggest anything.

    Are the DWP saying they think there was been an overpayment of benefit?
    What benefits was your grandmother claiming?
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    • huckster
    • By huckster 11th Feb 19, 6:43 PM
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    Suggest your Mum writes back as executor asking what information DWP require and what is the purpose for their request. Banks only have live access to the last 6 years of Bank statements, They can normally go back about 11 years if they really need to, but then it is an IT job, printing out account information not in the same format as statements.

    Did your Nan ever own any property assets or have significant investments/savings to your knowledge ?

    Did your Nan claim any benefits to your knowledge ?

    DWP might be asking, to check whether your Nan claimed benefit help, because capital assets/savings had been reduced over the years or that there had not been full disclosure at some point.

    The question is why the dates are relevant such as 2003 ? Were there changes around this time ?
    Last edited by huckster; 11-02-2019 at 6:50 PM.
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    • sportsarb
    • By sportsarb 11th Feb 19, 7:06 PM
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    Can the DWP not get this information themselves using the fraud act?

    Can the bank even give access to non named family members after death?
    • tododo
    • By tododo 11th Feb 19, 7:09 PM
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    • 11th Feb 19, 7:09 PM
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    • 11th Feb 19, 7:09 PM
    Thanks all - no never had any property at all

    She lived in the same rented council house all her life

    She had Pension Credit and attendance allowance as benefits im told - no property, shares or anything like that

    No idea what happened in 2003 so maybe interesting to see what we can get bank from the banks really in terms of statements - just to see from our point of view really

    Havent seen the letter yet but my mother says they only want to see whats in the banks and they said something doesnt match up somewhere to their records - guess will have to try and get these statements and see whats up

    Thanks all

    My mother is the probate - executor type thing - was suprised myself that 13K with the post office was enough to trigger the probate thing as it varies between banks im told
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 11th Feb 19, 7:20 PM
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    • 11th Feb 19, 7:20 PM
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    If your mother had more than 10,000 she may have been overpaid Pension Credit which may be what DWP want to review. At 13,000 the overpayment would be 6/week if the DWP were not aware of any savings.
    No doubt the amount she had varied over time so they need to see statements so they can review entitlement on a week by week basis.
    • bigbill
    • By bigbill 11th Feb 19, 7:24 PM
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    Pension Credit was introduced from 2003 hence that date?

    Given Nans age I would expect she had an Assessed Income Period (AIP) from this date possibly for life, they seem to want to check it was not set in error due to her failing to declare capital / savings at this point.

    I could be wrong though?
    • venison
    • By venison 11th Feb 19, 7:25 PM
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    I would ask them why they want to go back 16 years and make it clear you don't have the information.
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    • tododo
    • By tododo 11th Feb 19, 8:20 PM
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    • 11th Feb 19, 8:20 PM
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    • 11th Feb 19, 8:20 PM
    Brill thanks everyone - some good knowledge there - and yeh looks like pension credit came into being in 2003 too
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 11th Feb 19, 8:35 PM
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    My reaction also would be to go back to DWP and say there are no records available going back to 2003.
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