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    • MSE Eesha
    • By MSE Eesha 8th Mar 16, 11:44 AM
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    Postgraduate loans 2016/2017 starters
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    • 8th Mar 16, 11:44 AM
    Postgraduate loans 2016/2017 starters 8th Mar 16 at 11:44 AM
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    • LauraBlingham28
    • By LauraBlingham28 19th Sep 17, 6:12 PM
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    Masters Funding Options
    Hi,

    I'm having a real issue with funding for my Masters degree that I'm wanting to start January next year.

    I'm working full time and wanted to do the part time distance learning of the degree, which you have between 2-8 years to complete.

    I wasn't aware that I cannot get student finance for my Masters of the £10,000 unless I complete the degree within 2 years because the full-time equivalent of the course is to be completed within 1 year so student finance request that the part-time version is completed in no more than double the full-time version!

    I won't be able to do 25 hours per week and work full time. Has anyone at all got any other ideas of funding that I could apply for or how to do this?

    My course is £12,000!

    Thanks,

    Laura
    • PixPop
    • By PixPop 17th Nov 17, 7:10 PM
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    Hi there,
    I had to withdraw from my Masters after a month. I received the first payment of my loan. Will I have to pay this back straight away or will monthly payments be taken like my undergraduate degree?
    • Tonkski
    • By Tonkski 15th May 18, 10:36 AM
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    Postgraduate Loan Repayments and Pension Income
    The guide says:

    "It's one reason those who are relatively near retirement, who don't have a degree and want one, will find doing one very appealing. This is because unless they've a huge pension, they know they'll never have to repay."

    and

    "...if you were aged 59 taking a course, unlikely to ever go back to full-time employment and living off pension earnings of under £21,000, you'd never need to repay this cash, so borrowing more would be a big win – at taxpayers' expense."

    My reading of the guidance is that the size of your occupational pension income makes no difference to repayments - it isn't normally considered, unless it is subject to NIC1 payments or you have to complete tax self-assessment with unearned income of more than £2000. See under the heading "Student Loan deductions and Occupational Pensions" at the student loan repayment website FAQ for Plan 1 (sorry, can't post links yet). I can’t find any information published about Plan 2 and pension income.

    Is my interpretation correct?
    • Ed-1
    • By Ed-1 15th May 18, 11:31 AM
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    Ed-1
    The guide says:

    "It's one reason those who are relatively near retirement, who don't have a degree and want one, will find doing one very appealing. This is because unless they've a huge pension, they know they'll never have to repay."

    and

    "...if you were aged 59 taking a course, unlikely to ever go back to full-time employment and living off pension earnings of under £21,000, you'd never need to repay this cash, so borrowing more would be a big win – at taxpayers' expense."

    My reading of the guidance is that the size of your occupational pension income makes no difference to repayments - it isn't normally considered, unless it is subject to NIC1 payments or you have to complete tax self-assessment with unearned income of more than £2000. See under the heading "Student Loan deductions and Occupational Pensions" at the student loan repayment website FAQ for Plan 1 (sorry, can't post links yet). I can’t find any information published about Plan 2 and pension income.

    Is my interpretation correct?
    Originally posted by Tonkski
    Yes you're right. For some reason MSE think pension income counts.
    • Tonkski
    • By Tonkski 18th May 18, 7:52 AM
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    Can anyone from MSE comment please?
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 18th May 18, 9:11 AM
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    Can anyone from MSE comment please?
    Originally posted by Tonkski
    Have you informed them of the error? It's very unlikely that they will see it here.
    • Tonkski
    • By Tonkski 18th May 18, 9:14 PM
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    Ah, sorry I'm new here. I thought the forum was the way to contact them - I was directed here by a link in the original guide. What's the right way please?
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 18th May 18, 9:20 PM
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    I was going to say click on the Contact us link at the bottom of the page but it doesn't seem to be working at the moment. Hopefully that's a temporary glitch and it will eventually work again.
    • Musto man
    • By Musto man 25th May 18, 1:30 PM
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    Post grad loan issue.
    My physiotheraphy postgraduate Masters will cost 12K per year and there are 2 years. I am only 21. The student finance England company only offer around 5K per year. How best should I make up my funding loss or should I just approach a bank for all the money. The 12K doesn't include any living allowance. Any thoughts please?
    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 25th May 18, 4:09 PM
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    Ah, sorry I'm new here. I thought the forum was the way to contact them - I was directed here by a link in the original guide. What's the right way please?
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    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 5th Jun 18, 11:23 AM
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    My physiotheraphy postgraduate Masters will cost 12K per year and there are 2 years. I am only 21. The student finance England company only offer around 5K per year. How best should I make up my funding loss or should I just approach a bank for all the money. The 12K doesn't include any living allowance. Any thoughts please?
    Originally posted by Musto man

    Have you applied to your Uni for a Scholarship? A Masters is usually one year, not two, so if this part time? You should be able to work as well as study if this is the case.
    • marydoll51
    • By marydoll51 3rd Sep 18, 11:01 AM
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    marydoll
    I wrote to the department of education and was told that someone of my age was less likely to pay back the loan. In my opinion this is even more outrageously discriminatory than the original age limit. This year I have been accepted for an MSc by Chester and am desperately searching for funding. I work, I love what I do and intend to continue working for as long as I am able, and the government is encouraging us all to extend our working lives so why shouldn't pepole over 60 be allowed to access courses that will enrich their knowledge, improve their efficiency and increase their job prospects. It is blatant discrimination and I see no reason why the government should be exempt from it's own discrimination laws. If anyone knows of any way in which to challenge this I would be very grateful.
    • Gigglesme
    • By Gigglesme 13th Oct 18, 1:08 AM
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    It's only age discrimination in the same way that paying younger staff a lower minimum wage is, in that it's perfectly legal.
    • rollingmoon
    • By rollingmoon 22nd Oct 18, 12:58 PM
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    1) I had the original 'mortgage' style loan pre-1998 and deferred it for a while but after a while I was not contacted by the loans company and it dropped off the radar. Probably about 2k is left to pay. Is this amount still payable? Or is it written off - I'm 52 and it was 25 years ago.
    Originally posted by fulcanelli
    It would have been written off by the time you turned 50 as long as you had kept up with deferments/any payments due. However, that's not the case if you'd ever been in arrears so you may find that contacting them will open a can of worms. Someone here will know better than me if any such debt would be statute barred after all this time. Good luck!
    • _shel
    • By _shel 22nd Oct 18, 1:12 PM
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    It would have been written off by the time you turned 50 as long as you had kept up with deferments/any payments due. However, that's not the case if you'd ever been in arrears so you may find that contacting them will open a can of worms. Someone here will know better than me if any such debt would be statute barred after all this time. Good luck!
    Originally posted by rollingmoon
    Student loans are never statute barred. Along with tax debt.
    • Pansypotter
    • By Pansypotter 27th Nov 18, 12:52 PM
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    So the entry requirement for the BSc in conservation is that you already hold an MA in conservation, this equates to 3 years worth of studying for a Masters. The cost of these degrees are £10,000 per year, so £30,000 in total towards which Student Finance will lend £10,609 in total spread across the 3 years. There are no maintenance loans and Students can't claim benefits, are Masters Degrees only for the rich?
    • _shel
    • By _shel 27th Nov 18, 2:27 PM
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    _shel
    You need an MA to complete a BSc?

    That aside you do what millionsof others do, work alongside study and save plenty before starting
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 27th Nov 18, 6:34 PM
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    So the entry requirement for the BSc in conservation is that you already hold an MA in conservation...
    Originally posted by Pansypotter

    I find it hard to believe this can be true, are you sure you don't mean that the BSc is the entry requirement for the MA? That would make much more sense, and is pretty standard for any Masters course to require an undergraduate degree first. You don't say what university this is, but a random selection shows the entry requirement for the MA in Conservation Studies at York University:


    A good honours degree (2:1 or first class) or an equivalent qualification from an overseas institution in Architecture, Archaeology, History, History of Art or Architectural History, or in a relevant allied discipline – we welcome a diverse range of backgrounds.


    But alternatives may be possible:


    Mature students or those with less conventional qualifications but with relevant work experience will be considered.


    https://www.york.ac.uk/study/postgraduate-taught/courses/ma-conservation-studies/
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 27th Nov 18, 7:50 PM
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    sheramber
    A Master degree is a 1year course ( full time) after the initial BSC degree so the Maters funding is for 1 year only.
    • garytonydocherty
    • By garytonydocherty 3rd Jan 19, 10:15 AM
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    garytonydocherty
    Sponsorship + Student Loan
    Hello,

    My post graduate degree is being fully sponsored by my employer. I am also looking to buy a house and wish to use the post graduate student loan towards my deposit. Can I get a post graduate student loan if i am being sponsored?
    I have checked the gov website and it only states that you cannot receive student loan if the student is already receiving grants/bursaries, it does not mention anything in regards to sponsorship.

    Thank you in advance,
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