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    • juliesg
    • By juliesg 14th Nov 19, 7:27 PM
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    Working tax 30 hour element
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    • 14th Nov 19, 7:27 PM
    Working tax 30 hour element 14th Nov 19 at 7:27 PM
    My partner had to cut his hours for personal reasons so he now doing 25 instead of 30 hours so we lost the 30 hour element of working tax however I work 5 hours a week does anyone know if they will combine our hours
    Thank you
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    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 14th Nov 19, 7:34 PM
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    It is combined hours that are counted https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/work-hours-rules
    • juliesg
    • By juliesg 14th Nov 19, 7:36 PM
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    It is combined hours that are counted https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/work-hours-rules
    Originally posted by calcotti
    Thanks as at present they have cut our payments by £30 a week due to this element and Iím feeling very sick with worry.
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 14th Nov 19, 7:39 PM
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    Thanks as at present they have cut our payments by £30 a week due to this element and Iím feeling very sick with worry.
    Originally posted by juliesg
    Sorry, Iíve just double checked and my previous post may be incomplete. I think one of you has to be working 30 hours to get the 30 hour element unless you have a child. If you have a child then the hours can be combined, that is according to information here https://revenuebenefits.org.uk/tax-credits/guidance/how-do-tax-credits-work/entitlement/wtc-elements/
    Last edited by calcotti; 14-11-2019 at 7:44 PM.
    • juliesg
    • By juliesg 14th Nov 19, 7:43 PM
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    • 14th Nov 19, 7:43 PM
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    • 14th Nov 19, 7:43 PM
    Sorry, Iíve just double checked and my previous post is incorrect. I think one of you has to be working 30 hours to get the 30 hour element unless you have a child. If you have a child then the hours can be combined https://revenuebenefits.org.uk/tax-credits/guidance/how-do-tax-credits-work/entitlement/wtc-elements/
    Originally posted by calcotti
    Iíve just got this from your link
    If you work 30 hours a week or more a bonus is payable in Working Tax Credit. In couples it is your combined work hours that are counted when working out your entitlement to this bonus.
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 14th Nov 19, 7:49 PM
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    The first link says
    If you work 30 hours a week or more a bonus is payable in Working Tax Credit. In couples it is your combined work hours that are counted when working out your entitlement to this bonus.
    The second link says
    30 Hour element of WTC

    Single claimants who work at least 30 hours per week will have the 30 hour element included in their award.

    Similarly, if one member of a couple works at least 30 hours per week, the 30 hour element can be included. If both members work at least 30 hours, only one 30 hour element is included.

    The 30 hour element is also included if at least one of the claimants is responsible for a child or qualifying young person and the total number of hours which the couple work is at least 30. This is subject to the requirement that at least one person is in qualifying remunerative work of at least 16 hours per week.
    They are not saying the same thing - will see if I can find another source.
    • juliesg
    • By juliesg 14th Nov 19, 7:51 PM
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    • 14th Nov 19, 7:51 PM
    The first link says
    If you work 30 hours a week or more a bonus is payable in Working Tax Credit. In couples it is your combined work hours that are counted when working out your entitlement to this bonus.
    The second link says
    30 Hour element of WTC

    Single claimants who work at least 30 hours per week will have the 30 hour element included in their award.

    Similarly, if one member of a couple works at least 30 hours per week, the 30 hour element can be included. If both members work at least 30 hours, only one 30 hour element is included.

    The 30 hour element is also included if at least one of the claimants is responsible for a child or qualifying young person and the total number of hours which the couple work is at least 30. This is subject to the requirement that at least one person is in qualifying remunerative work of at least 16 hours per week.
    They are not saying the same thing - will see if I can find another source.
    Originally posted by calcotti
    We have got a son
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 14th Nov 19, 7:55 PM
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    • 14th Nov 19, 7:55 PM
    This link says that it is only if you are responsible for a child that your hours are combined
    30 hour element if you work at least 30 hours a week. Couples with children can combine their hours to meet the threshold to qualify for the 30-hour element, as long as one partner is working at least 16 hours a week. Only one element is paid even if both work 30 hours.
    Unfortunately I think the first link I found is misleading (most unusually for that website).
    • juliesg
    • By juliesg 14th Nov 19, 7:57 PM
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    • 14th Nov 19, 7:57 PM
    This link says that it is only if you are responsible for a child that your hours are combined
    30 hour element if you work at least 30 hours a week. Couples with children can combine their hours to meet the threshold to qualify for the 30-hour element, as long as one partner is working at least 16 hours a week. Only one element is paid even if both work 30 hours.
    Unfortunately I think the first link I found is misleading (most unusually for that website).
    Originally posted by calcotti
    My son is only 14 so we should be able to combine our hours hopefully £30 a week a massive amount to lose
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 14th Nov 19, 8:07 PM
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    Found official guidance
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/787912/WTC2_2019.pdf see page 9.
    If youíre part of a couple with children, youíre eligible for the 30-hour element if you jointly work at least 30 hours a week. This is providing one of you works at least 16 hours. Couples without children cannot add their hours together to qualify for the 30-hour element.
    Therefore answer to your question depends on whether or not you have a child.
    Apologies my first reply was incorrect.
    • juliesg
    • By juliesg 14th Nov 19, 8:11 PM
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    Found official guidance
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/787912/WTC2_2019.pdf see page 9.
    If youíre part of a couple with children, youíre eligible for the 30-hour element if you jointly work at least 30 hours a week. This is providing one of you works at least 16 hours. Couples without children cannot add their hours together to qualify for the 30-hour element.
    Therefore answer to your question depends on whether or not you have a child.
    Apologies my first reply was incorrect.
    Originally posted by calcotti
    Thanks for that as I have a child they should be able to combine our hours
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 14th Nov 19, 8:21 PM
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    Thanks for that as I have a child they should be able to combine our hours
    Originally posted by juliesg
    Excellent.
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