Smoker beneath flat making like bad

Benjamin_N wrote: »

I'm not moving AGAIN because of drug fiends.

If anyone had an issue when I smoked I would always go outside, which is a more than reasonable thing to request. People need to respect others spaces. It's clear that his fumes rose into my flat, they must know that

Why must they know it? If they've got no smells from elsewhere they'll have little idea of where or how the smoke travels.
And it appears you've made no effort to tell them - yelling at them through the floor, window, or whatever, doesn't count. And if you behaved like that to me instead of having a polite word, I'd ignore you as well.

You can insist on here "it will stop" all you like, that's not going to make it happen. You can try reporting them but the police will do nothing unless they're dealing or causing trouble. Their landlord (if they aren't home owners) has no responsibility for monitoring their tenants behaviour.
Realistically, your options are to move or to develop coping mechanisms. You cannot force them to smoke outside. But asking nicely is likely to get you further than shouting at them.

Benjamin_N wrote: »

This is from a different person below my flat, this comes in the Window next to my bed.

Out of curiosity, if it's coming through your window, how would them smoking out their door help you?

Benjamin_N wrote: »

This person most certainly knows that it's causing me harm because I've told them out the Windows that I can't get air in my flat and its making me miserable in the mornings. Everyone had a right to clean air, EVERYONE.

They are still doing it regardless, when they know it causes harm, so they aren't decent people.

yelling at someone out a window, as opposed to politely knocking on their door and talking calmly, is not an appropriate way to have this kind of discussion. That sort of behaviour comes across as rude and aggressive, and I'm hardly surprised that the person is taking no notice of you.

You're saying they're not decent people, but try to see it from others' perspectives: you used to use an illegal drug too, and you've been yelling out a window at someone, kicking off, rather than having an adult discussion. By your own criteria, you're not 'decent people' either. Try to be less judgemental about others behaviour, you don't know what they're thinking or what their intentions are after all, it will help you approach the situation with a cooler head.

The way you've talked about this issue, and the actions you've described taking, make it obvious to us here that while your neighbour is in the wrong and causing you problems, you are also exacerbating the situation.

Regardless of the outcome with the filter for your window, please seek advice on how you conduct yourself from a counsellor or therapist if you see one, because it's almost guaranteed at some point in the future you will be upset by somebody else's behaviour. Approaching it as you have done previously is very counterproductive, and it's clearly in the interests of your health that you can get others to work with you to resolve issues.

Benjamin_N wrote: »

No, I absolutely can tell people what they should be doing if they are causing harm to other people or being rude in a thread I created. Good people need to stick up for the good or the bad run amok, just like this rude individual downstairs who knows I'm being hurt because of a their disregard for others clean air.

I was looking for other people's experienced, which I didn't get. Rather I received a very helpful PM from someone not on this forum regarding a DIY filter for a Window.

Yes, you absolutely can tell people what they should be doing, and they can absolutely tell you to ram it where the sun don't shine. What people are trying to tell you if you would listen is that making demands is not a way to negotiate or reach a compromise.

Like it or not, what someone does in their own flat is not up to you. Just because you say you have have mental health issues, it doesn't make you more important or give you the right to dictate what people should be doing to appease your own delicate complexion. Maybe your neighbour has chronic pain or anxiety or seizures that weed has been known to help with. Maybe your selfish shouting out the window is bad for the mental health of your neighbours.

Everyone's situation is different and making demands because you feel your needs are more important is just going to receive a hostile response. If my neighbour just started shouting out the window like an antisocial yob before trying to have a conversation like a civilised adult, I'd have zero respect for them or their situation. You yourself said you enjoyed a puff in the past, so you know fine well the issues involved smoking it outside in public vs the privacy of your own home. I'll bet you didn't smoke it on your own doorstep when you used to partake.

You can only change what you have control of and not other peoples actions. If you cannot have a calm and civilised discussion to reach a compromise (bridges are probably burned by now), you can either move or close the windows and get some sort of portable AC system to cool your flat down.

The portable AC's work surprisingly well as I found out in summer when my neighbours would use the garden and play music while I was working nightshift. Instead of shouting out the window and demanding they take the party inside, I spoke to them and explained that I work nightshift so if they could turn the music down a little, it would be appreciated.