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    • dwpn00b
    • By dwpn00b 21st Jul 19, 9:48 AM
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    Buying first car - 7 seater
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    • 21st Jul 19, 9:48 AM
    Buying first car - 7 seater 21st Jul 19 at 9:48 AM
    So I was lazy not buying a car (5 years since I passed) and now I need a 7 seater car. Max budget 6500. I don't know much about cars but I was recommended Vauxhall Zafira and Toyota Verso. The Zafira is significantly cheaper but apparently prone to catching fire https://news.sky.com/story/vauxhall-recalls-zafira-models-for-third-time-over-new-fire-risk-11704018 so that's out of the question.

    The Verso I was told is very reliable due to being Japanese. Now I've seen one for about 6000 but it's 2.2 engine size, 2010 model. Will that cost too much for insurance for me (I'm over 30 if that makes a difference). Also the engine will be too 'powerful'. Lastly it's diesel and I was told diesel engines get penalised alot more?

    Any advice would be really appreciated.
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    • VFR
    • By VFR 21st Jul 19, 10:50 AM
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    Do you actually need a 7 seater though ?, if 6 is enough take a look at the Honda FRV that has a 1.8 ivtec engine.
    • dwpn00b
    • By dwpn00b 21st Jul 19, 11:50 AM
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    I definitely need a 7 seater car.
    • reeac
    • By reeac 21st Jul 19, 4:47 PM
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    • 21st Jul 19, 4:47 PM
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    • 21st Jul 19, 4:47 PM
    My son had a secondhand Zafira and after a few years bought a new one ... both were petrol, He kept the second one for many years until his youngsters started to leave home. His point was that his 3 kids had a habit of inviting friends along so having 7 seats was often handy. We joined them for a hol. in the Lake District once and whilst there just used the Zafira which coped very well, I thought.
    • Ectophile
    • By Ectophile 21st Jul 19, 6:22 PM
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    • 21st Jul 19, 6:22 PM
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    • 21st Jul 19, 6:22 PM
    I can't say I have ever noticed a penalty for buying a diesel. And there is no magic formula that equates engine size with insurance premium.


    If it's the sort of car that people keep crashing, the premiums will be higher. If not, they will be lower. Small differences in engine size, or petrol vs. diesel aren't really important.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
    • jimbo6977
    • By jimbo6977 21st Jul 19, 6:38 PM
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    Fiat Doblo.
    • mgfvvc
    • By mgfvvc 21st Jul 19, 8:38 PM
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    • 21st Jul 19, 8:38 PM
    Do you need 7 seats and boot space or is a car with no boot space in 7 seat configuration OK?
    • tacpot12
    • By tacpot12 21st Jul 19, 11:02 PM
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    • 21st Jul 19, 11:02 PM
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    • 21st Jul 19, 11:02 PM
    To check how much the insurance will be, put your details into a price comparison website like Compare the Market. Find a car with the same spec that you are thinking of buying and put the reg. number of that car in with your details.

    Check the road fund licence cost at Parkers.co.uk.

    There is no chance that a 2.2litre Diesel engine will be too powerful.
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always check official information sources before relying on my posts.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 22nd Jul 19, 2:39 AM
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    • 22nd Jul 19, 2:39 AM
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    • 22nd Jul 19, 2:39 AM
    Do you need 7 seats and boot space or is a car with no boot space in 7 seat configuration OK?
    Originally posted by mgfvvc

    Exactly.. 7 seats and a decent boot or 7 seats where the rear passengers sit in fear of being rear ended and their bodies being
    used as the crumple zone.

    Would you feel safe sitting in the back with your head mm away from the rear window?
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    • fatbelly
    • By fatbelly 22nd Jul 19, 3:09 AM
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    So I was lazy not buying a car (5 years since I passed) and now I need a 7 seater car. Max budget 6500. I don't know much about cars but I was recommended Vauxhall Zafira and Toyota Verso. The Zafira is significantly cheaper but apparently prone to catching fire https://news.sky.com/story/vauxhall-recalls-zafira-models-for-third-time-over-new-fire-risk-11704018 so that's out of the question.

    The Verso I was told is very reliable due to being Japanese. Now I've seen one for about 6000 but it's 2.2 engine size, 2010 model. Will that cost too much for insurance for me (I'm over 30 if that makes a difference). Also the engine will be too 'powerful'. Lastly it's diesel and I was told diesel engines get penalised alot more?

    Any advice would be really appreciated.
    Originally posted by dwpn00b
    You're going to see more Zafiras than anything else but other 7 seaters of that vintage are the Ford Grand cmax and Peugeot 5008, Citroen Grand c4. Maybe a vw Touran
    • ididntgetwhereiamtoday
    • By ididntgetwhereiamtoday 22nd Jul 19, 6:01 AM
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    Exactly.. 7 seats and a decent boot or 7 seats where the rear passengers sit in fear of being rear ended and their bodies being
    used as the crumple zone.

    Would you feel safe sitting in the back with your head mm away from the rear window?
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    Just stick the mother in law there...
    Zafiras are probably the best value as there are so many of them. Just make sure the safety recalls have been done.
    I didn't get where i am today by not reading moneysavingexpert.com
    • jimbo6977
    • By jimbo6977 22nd Jul 19, 6:56 AM
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    if you need 7 seats and a bigish boot theres not much to go at.

    chrysler voyager
    ssangyong rodius
    fiat scudo or the PSA equivalents.
    • dwpn00b
    • By dwpn00b 22nd Jul 19, 11:06 AM
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    I will check if some of the Zafiras had recalls done. And yes I will need 7 seater and boot space.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 22nd Jul 19, 1:14 PM
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    I will check if some of the Zafiras had recalls done. And yes I will need 7 seater and boot space.
    Originally posted by dwpn00b
    You don't get a huge amount of space in the back of a Zafira or similar when using all 7 seats.
    • macman
    • By macman 22nd Jul 19, 1:23 PM
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    Petrol or diesel? What's your predicted annual mileage? Will you be driving in the expanded ULEZ zone?
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    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 22nd Jul 19, 2:07 PM
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    You'll be looking a suitcase stood up or a small pushchair. The back too seats are for small people only with limited leg room.
    Originally posted by Scooby.Doo
    That's what i mean. The OP would need a roof box or a trailer (but would need to have passed a trailer test) to go on holiday with anything meaningful.

    I remember when I was a child in the 70s, we went on holiday in a ford escort popular (old P reg). There were 4 of us in the back
    • jimbo6977
    • By jimbo6977 22nd Jul 19, 2:21 PM
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    What you want is a Peugeot 504 Familiale.
    7 seater with a boot.
    Exempt from ULEZ and road tax.
    But of course it will have all the "quirks" of a classic car.
    And you'll probably have to import it from France.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 22nd Jul 19, 3:03 PM
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    Just stick the mother in law there...
    Zafiras are probably the best value as there are so many of them. Just make sure the safety recalls have been done.
    Originally posted by ididntgetwhereiamtoday

    I did notice recently how cheap Zafira's are, but then you look at the adverts for breaking and spares and there are way more than anything else with the Insignia a close second, they are super cheap also.
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    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 22nd Jul 19, 3:42 PM
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    You could have my 'old' Chevrolet Orlando - 2014 63 plate. 2.0 VCDi Diesel engine.

    (we actually just traded it in to Kia Grantham, it's still there though!) 64K, Full history. That would be way under your 6.5K budget. Ours was the LT so plenty of kit too.
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    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 22nd Jul 19, 5:03 PM
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    They'll be fine towing with a zafira no need to pass another test.
    Originally posted by Scooby.Doo
    Yes the OP will if he has only passed his test in the last 5 years and needs a trailer with more than 750kg MAM.
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