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    • By MSE Archna 9th Nov 07, 1:06 PM
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    Cheapest Boiler Cover Discussion
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  • Shoom
    5 Year Free Parts & Labour Warantee W/bosch
    Wocester Bosch are offering a free FULL 5 YEAR FREE PARTS & LABOUR WARANTEE on all boilers until the end of August.

    That sounds like quite a good deal. Any thoughts?
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 13th Aug 08, 7:05 PM
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    Cardew
    Wocester Bosch are offering a free FULL 5 YEAR FREE PARTS & LABOUR WARANTEE on all boilers until the end of August.

    That sounds like quite a good deal. Any thoughts?
    Originally posted by Shoom
    I suspect that will be conditional on having a full 'service' by a Corgi fitter.

    5 years really is a pathetic warrantee IMO, albeit better that many manufacturers.
    Last edited by Cardew; 13-08-2008 at 10:58 PM. Reason: sp
  • Shoom
    I suspect that will be conditional on having a full 'service' by a Corgi fitter.

    5 years really is a pathetic warantee IMO, albeit better that many manufacturers.
    Originally posted by Cardew
    I just had a medium ranged Wocester Bosch Greenstar 30si fitted last week for 1650 including VAT. The Corgi service is 70 quid a year. Pound for pound I challenge you to find me a better deal which includes a full 5 year parts and labour warantee...
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 13th Aug 08, 10:57 PM
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    Cardew
    I just had a medium ranged Wocester Bosch Greenstar 30si fitted last week for 1650 including VAT. The Corgi service is 70 quid a year. Pound for pound I challenge you to find me a better deal which includes a full 5 year parts and labour warantee...
    Originally posted by Shoom
    You asked for thoughts, and I gave you mine!

    I wonder why you asked what we thought, when you had already bought one.

    If you are happy, that is all that matters.
  • Shoom
    You asked for thoughts, and I gave you mine!

    I wonder why you asked what we thought, when you had already bought one.

    If you are happy, that is all that matters.
    Originally posted by Cardew

    Apologies Cardew. I wanted a constructive opinion on the deal that I got.
    All you said that it was pathetic without offering any constructive comment-hardly helpful?

    Why do you think a 5 years parts and labour warantee is pathetic?

    Who else offers anything approaching that? I'd like to know.
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 14th Aug 08, 11:44 AM
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    Cardew
    Apologies Cardew. I wanted a constructive opinion on the deal that I got.
    All you said that it was pathetic without offering any constructive comment-hardly helpful?

    Why do you think a 5 years parts and labour warantee is pathetic?

    Who else offers anything approaching that? I'd like to know.
    Originally posted by Shoom
    I believe there is a 10 year warranty available with one manufacturer - posted on MSE.

    However that isn't my point.

    If you want constructive criticism, it applies to virtually all boiler manufacturers.

    I and plenty of others have 'old fashioned' non-condensing boilers that are over 20 years old and virtually nothing has gone wrong with them, and given the technology involved(or rather lack of it) we will be unlucky if anything does go wrong in the future.

    They require minimal maintenance as there are no adjustments required that affect efficiency.

    The downside is that they are not particularly efficient.

    We are all exhorted to buy new super-efficient condensing boilers at huge expense.

    If you don't have your CH system flushed, at a cost of several hundred pounds, the warranty is often void.

    These boilers are stuffed full of electronics and parts that are so expensive that out of warranty, it often doesn't make economic sense to repair them.

    Look at the exclusions on parts firms like BG have for their servicing contracts.

    Plenty of experts reason that 10 years will be a good life expectancy before they are scrapped and a new boiler is required; plenty of evidence that many don't last 10 years.

    Unlike cars, electrical appliances etc, where new technology has taken great strides forward, it has gone the other way with CH boilers.

    Why shouldn't boiler manufacturers be able to offer, say, a 20 year warranty?

    You won't get much sympathy for the above POV from CORGI fitters!!!!
  • philbury
    5 year warranties are the best you're likely to get on this planet. Warranties, in general, suck. So does insurance. The exclusions, excesses, conditions, and the hassle of dealing with people who are out to dupe you, make the whole thing too much trouble. Better to buy good quality and take a gamble on reliability. The money you save on insurance will pay for any repairs. Modern stuff is pretty reliable. Buildings insurance is necessary but if you claim, the policy costs you much more the next year. That should be illegal!

    Whilst in general I'm against people buying so-called 'green' products because as far as the environment is concerned, the impact of manufacturing that product far outweighs any supposed advantage, our condensing boiler is far more efficient than our last one.
    Last edited by philbury; 15-08-2008 at 11:39 AM. Reason: spelling
  • trader girl
    schoom I also have a Worcester Greenstar Condenser Boiler ZWB7.30
    It was fitted 5 years ago.
    We have never had it guarenteed or serviced and never had a problem with it. today i have booked with NPower for their £29.99 , 30 point service if anything needs doing (which is Doubtfu) the money that i could have given to a guarentor over the years will pay for it with some change.
    Its not how far you fall but how high you bounce back that matters
    • Annie021063
    • By Annie021063 19th Aug 08, 6:07 PM
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    Is there any other companies out there who can offer a similar service to homecare 400?? MY RENEWAL is over £50 a month!!!!!!
    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 26th Aug 08, 12:44 PM
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    I've had 2 calls today from Scottish & Southern (SSE) offering me boiler and CH system cover for less than what I'm paying BG for - but, my BG cover includes plumbing and drainage cover too - SSE don't offer that because (they say) home insurance includes it.
    Always ask yourself one question: What would Gibbs do?

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    I had to put mothballs in my wallet - the moths had learned the PINs to my cards...
  • philbury
    Seriously though - has anyone had to claim on one of these policies and felt that they had good service?
    • freder
    • By freder 5th Sep 08, 11:39 AM
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    freder
    Gas V Electric ??
    Which is dearest, gas or electric?
    would it pay to only have electric? if I did then I would not need to pay for gas boiler cover, which is going up and up even though my usage of gas is going down and down.
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 5th Sep 08, 11:49 AM
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    Cardew
    Which is dearest, gas or electric?
    would it pay to only have electric? if I did then I would not need to pay for gas boiler cover, which is going up and up even though my usage of gas is going down and down.
    Originally posted by freder
    Loads of threads on this subject.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1127697

    Despite the latest increases gas is by a long way cheaper than electricity in running costs.
  • sseshield
    I've had 2 calls today from Scottish & Southern (SSE) offering me boiler and CH system cover for less than what I'm paying BG for - but, my BG cover includes plumbing and drainage cover too - SSE don't offer that because (they say) home insurance includes it.
    Originally posted by MothballsWallet
    you are correct in everything you have said and the reason we dont do plumbing and drains is because it can be covered on you home insurance. e.g norwich union will cover it for !!!163;15 for the year or you can keep your plumbing and drains cover with bg for !!!163;3 on the flexi or !!!163;5.75 a month for unlimited and bring the rest across to us so you will still save money and if you have both gas and electric with us we will give you !!!163;50 off your energy bill for taking the cover out. that offer is only available over the phone, there are no benefits if signing up on our website at the moment.

    if anyone is interested in the cover and you have your energy supply from sse then if you pm me your surname. house no. and postcode i can set up a prospect for you and all you need to do is ring customer service and say you want the shield cover with !!!163;50 off your energy bills because you have prospected and voilla!
    Last edited by sseshield; 06-09-2008 at 11:16 PM.
    • KittaKatta
    • By KittaKatta 16th Sep 08, 11:43 PM
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    After being decently happy with British Gas for 5 years (though paying more than new customers... but by ringing them once a year, I managed to get about a 10% discount anyway), a few months back they left us with no heater for 3 weeks during a cold spell, and missed two appointments, so I decided to move to Homeserve (with whom I already had a policy for drains, and with whom I have been extremely happy so far). Went through Rpoints, got cashback on top of it, and approximately £5.00 saving a month. Homserve also include pest control in their policy, and since we had a problem with mice earlier this year, which cost us about £130.00 to solve, we are even more keen... Unfortunately our policy does not include the boiler safety check, but by moving back to BG next year as a new customer, I should get that sorted again, and I should get the 'new customer' price. How mad is all this fiddle with changing providers though!? I wish we could just stay with someone who offers a good service, and a good price, year after year...
    • Alias_Omega
    • By Alias_Omega 24th Oct 08, 11:00 AM
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    Is there any other companies out there who can offer a similar service to homecare 400?? MY RENEWAL is over £50 a month!!!!!!
    Originally posted by Annie021063
    Cancel,

    Signup again through Quidco, recieive..

    £52for Homecare Plumbing, Drains and Home Electrical Care

    Then you'll be on new customer prices.
    • kirkie
    • By kirkie 3rd Nov 08, 2:56 PM
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    kirkie
    I have just had my renewal from British Gas and they want £15 a month (£180.00).

    This is more than I paid last year and I have never claimed. I am currently on HomeCare Flexi 300.

    Any recommendations on changing company?
  • bobmedley
    all well and good but what about oil boilers?:confused:
    anyone know of of a reliable company
    Originally posted by toadhall
    I buy a yearly insurance at £85 p.a. that covers the boiler and;
    • Water circulating pump
    • Warm air circulating fan
    • Time clock and programmer
    • Motorised valve
    • Fire safety valve
    • Frost stats
    - if you pay £44 extra, then you can cover the entire system. This is available from Shell UK and I am sure there are others.

    A condition is that it must be serviced & I get that done by Emo Oil (OFTEC engineers) and that is another £90'ish (although I notice that Boilerjuice have a service on offer at £60 - I've not used them yet).

    I have a Trianco Utility boiler of 1999 vintage & have not had a single problem with it, so (thankfully) cannot comment how good these people are as and when you may need them.
    Last edited by bobmedley; 03-11-2008 at 5:00 PM.
    • Mazio
    • By Mazio 3rd Nov 08, 5:23 PM
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    Mazio
    Sorry this is for gas central heating I flicked forums and didnt notice.
    I have just got cover for the first time ever through EON I have both gas and electric through them anyway its £13 a month and covers entire heating system including hot water tank.
    It also includes safety inspection and maintenance inspection which includes any cleaning or parts it needs and I dont have to have a seperate service so this is the total price of £156 a year but no need to have service which I can get for £40 but I would have to pay for any spares as well so £116 for full cover.
    The EON engineer also said they do NOT use third parties they have their own engineers as well.
    Last edited by Mazio; 03-11-2008 at 5:26 PM.
    Look after the pennies and the pounds will spend themselves
  • RobertE02
    It is essential that people cover their Gas systems in the home. Even if they are brand new, the warranty might not cover what you think it does. And some people think they have warranty but realise they don't when something goes wrong because the installer of the Boiler has'nt registered it with the Manufactuer. Also it is not just for breakdowns and emergencies, the company I work for (not British Gas) offer a Full Strip down service to the Manufactuers standards. Now this will improve the safety and efficiency of your boiler. And by that I mean your boiler will have a prolonged life and you will save money off your gas bills. And its all very well being given advice to "self insure" (put the money you would spend in a high interest savings account and then blow it on a holiday to Benidorm), but CORGI engineers who have small firms or are a one man band response times are, on average 3-5 days, thats 3-5 days of no hot water, no heating and a heap of dirty washing! And will they come out on Bank Holidays/Xmas/New Year when most boilers break down? I think not. Now I understand that people have bad experiences, but you will have bad experiences from pretty much every company out there at one time or another. And no one likes telesales calls, but they are only doing their job. Do you think they like ringing people up and getting told to sod off all day? I promise you...we don't!
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