Sickness Benefit Terms changed after being TUPE'd to another company

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  • polgara
    polgara Posts: 500 Forumite
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    nicechap wrote: »
    I don!!!8217;t think you!!!8217;re right.

    The new NHS deal is entirely linked to pay rise in exchange for reduced sick pay. There again, maybe you!!!8217;re right and the government and unions have got it wrong.

    Thats not related to TUPE though
  • nicechap
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    edited 13 May 2018 at 9:09AM
    polgara wrote: »
    Thats not related to TUPE though

    Except it does, people move trusts all the time and under the deal, when you move, you can be moved onto the lesser sick pay benefits. Same applies if you get promoted, you ll get an even higher salary but lower sickness benefits. There!!!8217;s rumours the GMB are opposing it because of this change - but that!!!8217;s another subject.

    At the point of TUPE, benefits are the same, but they can be changed (subject to certain things like consultation or being informed) and then you have the choice to accept them by doing nothing or actively fighting them.

    Yawn: https://www.employmentsolicitor.com/tupe-cut-employee-benefits/
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  • ACG
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    Does he have payslips from when he has been ill in the past?
    Those could potentially be used.

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  • stator
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    nicechap wrote: »
    Except it does, people move trusts all the time and under the deal, when you move, you can be moved onto the lesser sick pay benefits. Same applies if you get promoted, you ll get an even higher salary but lower sickness benefits. There’s rumours the GMB are opposing it because of this change - but that’s another subject.

    At the point of TUPE, benefits are the same, but they can be changed (subject to certain things like consultation or being informed) and then you have the choice to accept them by doing nothing or actively fighting them.
    Promotions are completely different since you're accepting a new job.
    TUPE conditions can only be changed for genuine business reasons. It's not just a case of consultation or new contracts. Doing nothing does not affect your TUPE rights at all.
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