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    • Greta Sharbo
    • By Greta Sharbo 6th Jun 19, 11:43 AM
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    Redundancy - lack of information
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    • 6th Jun 19, 11:43 AM
    Redundancy - lack of information 6th Jun 19 at 11:43 AM
    16 days ago my employer advised us our jobs would be made redundant. All work is being handled at another office (relocation not an option). We have the option of applying for different projects but only 2 jobs available for 4 people. Two chose to apply, two (including me) chose to leave.

    Since then we have had no information whatsoever.

    One of the management informed me their understanding is that those of us who are leaving, will be doing so in next 2 weeks (4 week notice period). We have had no official information. We have asked for information and meetings which do not happen.

    Am I right in saying that the notice must be provided in writing or could they claim the notice was provided verbally 2 weeks ago and ask us to leave in next 2 weeks?

    Thanks
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    • iarniee
    • By iarniee 6th Jun 19, 12:05 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 12:05 PM
    16 days ago my employer advised us our jobs would be made redundant. All work is being handled at another office (relocation not an option). We have the option of applying for different projects but only 2 jobs available for 4 people. Two chose to apply, two (including me) chose to leave.

    Since then we have had no information whatsoever.

    One of the management informed me their understanding is that those of us who are leaving, will be doing so in next 2 weeks (4 week notice period). We have had no official information. We have asked for information and meetings which do not happen.

    Am I right in saying that the notice must be provided in writing or could they claim the notice was provided verbally 2 weeks ago and ask us to leave in next 2 weeks?

    Thanks
    Originally posted by Greta Sharbo

    How big is the company, would this not of been a proposal? Surely they would of had to go through collective consultation?

    Why are they moving the office?
    • Greta Sharbo
    • By Greta Sharbo 6th Jun 19, 12:51 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 12:51 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 12:51 PM
    I thought collective consultation was only needed for certain numbers (20?) - I'm no expert though.
    Approximately 50 paid staff overall but 16 working on the project I am employed on.

    Of the 16, 4 are in one location - jobs redundant, 12 are in another location and some of those have moved to part time hours due to the lack of work available.
    • Takeaway_Addict
    • By Takeaway_Addict 6th Jun 19, 7:09 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 7:09 PM
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    • 6th Jun 19, 7:09 PM
    They will probably just do PILON when they're ready so I'd just go with the flow for a few weeks
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    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 7th Jun 19, 2:01 AM
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    • 7th Jun 19, 2:01 AM
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    • 7th Jun 19, 2:01 AM
    How long have you worked there?
    • Greta Sharbo
    • By Greta Sharbo 13th Jun 19, 3:08 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 3:08 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 3:08 AM
    Today I was handed a letter telling me my notice period ends next week. They consider the notice was given verbally at the first meeting. If Im interpreting correctly, ACAS state notice starts when written confirmation of end date is given

    The letter did not state how much redundancy pay was due nor when it would be paid, which if the info on ACAS website is correct, is required.

    Ive worked there for 3 years and 2 months. (edit - my contract requires 4 weeks notice after 2 or more years service)
    Last edited by Greta Sharbo; 13-06-2019 at 8:09 AM.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 13th Jun 19, 9:11 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 9:11 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 9:11 AM
    http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=4095


    on the 6th you said.

    16 days ago my employer advised us our jobs would be made redundant.
    What exactly was said as that is what they will be relying on.
    • Greta Sharbo
    • By Greta Sharbo 13th Jun 19, 10:37 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 10:37 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 10:37 AM
    https://beta.acas.org.uk/manage-staff-redundancies/give-staff-notice-of-redundancy

    Tried to call ACAS but couldnt get through this morning, will try later.



    They said very little to be honest - that out of 4 of us there would be two jobs available in other projects if anyone interested but at least 2 of us would be made redundant. They advised we would get information about the other roles that would be available.

    That information wasnt given until week commencing 3rd June and we were asked to express interest. I did not express interest and they advised me yesterday redundancy would happen for me.

    I have no problem with being made redundant - I dont want to work in the other projects - but the way they have gone about it doesnt seem right to me.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 13th Jun 19, 10:58 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 10:58 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 10:58 AM
    that out of 4 of us there would be two jobs available in other projects if anyone interested but at least 2 of us would be made redundant. They advised we would get information about the other roles that would be available.
    I would argue that until the other roles were made available you were in consultation.

    but the way they have gone about it doesnt seem right to me
    What outcome do you want?
    • Greta Sharbo
    • By Greta Sharbo 14th Jun 19, 7:55 AM
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    I would argue that until the other roles were made available you were in consultation.

    What outcome do you want?
    Originally posted by getmore4less
    That they follow the correct procedures. I think its important for all of us that employers are not allowed to do whatever they think they can get away with. If I'm entitled to 4 weeks written notice, I feel that is what I should get unless we mutually agree otherwise.
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