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Selling land - minimum fee

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We have a garden which is separate from the house (this is a very old property, with an old layout). We are selling up, and think it would be best to sell the land/garden first. Over the years a number of people with adjoining land have expressed interest in this little parcel of land and said that they would like to buy it. We always refused, as, as long as we lived in the house, we wanted the garden to have as a garden. But now that we have decided to sell up, we want to put it on the market.

We have had a chat with a local estate agent, a firm that has been recommended, and, because a parcel of land does not command the price that a house would, have been proposed a minimum fee of £1,200 + VAT.

Trouble is, we are not entirely sure what the land will go for, so don't want to overspend on the fee, ie: the fee might turn out to be rather a large percentage of what we would get for the land.

However, going through an estate agent would be the best way of selling, as it would make the neighbourhood aware that the property is on the market.

Question: does £1,200 seem like a reasonable minimum fee to sell a garden? We expect that a number of people will be in competition to buy it, and I expect the land to sell for something between 20k and 40k. It is, however, hard to predict what it will go for.

The land is a potential building plot. It is landlocked for vehicular access, (there is pedestrian access via a right of way), but at least two potential buyers would have vehicular access via their own properties. A third potential buyer is selling a nearby building plot with planning permission, and this is only separated from our plot by a section of a long garden.

Purchase of the plot could boost the value of adjacent properties. It would also, in effect, end the right of way across two properties, including a potential purchaser's property.
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  • greatgimpo
    greatgimpo Posts: 1,256 Forumite
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    Drop a note into every neighbour, asking if they're interested. If they are, maybe sealed bids WITHOUT an estate agent to muddy the waters.
  • System
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    Bear in mind that having a building plot adjacent might devalue your own house for some buyers - why not get planning permission yourself for a house and sell the land with the permission, you might get someone that wants to buy both the house and the plot to stop anyone else building there
  • montymouse
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    greatgimpo wrote: »
    Drop a note into every neighbour, asking if they're interested. If they are, maybe sealed bids WITHOUT an estate agent to muddy the waters.

    That's an interesting idea, greatgimpo. Though we are not quite sure who owns the building plot that is just a garden away, so trying to drop leaflets to every potentially interested buyer might not work. Also, some of the potential buyers are landlords, and we are not sure where they live, which is why having it up on Rightmove might be a good idea.

    The idea of sealed bids is interesting - how would that work without an estate agent? Would they have to submit offers in writing to us?
  • montymouse
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    the_r_sole wrote: »
    Bear in mind that having a building plot adjacent might devalue your own house for some buyers - why not get planning permission yourself for a house and sell the land with the permission, you might get someone that wants to buy both the house and the plot to stop anyone else building there

    Thanks, the_r_sole, though actually the garden is not next to our own house at all. It is two gardens away.

    Actually, just to add, it may not just be wanted for building, but also for a car park for adjacent houses that currently have no parking space.

    It might take quite a while to get planning permission. I'm not sure that we would be able to do this with no vehicular access?
  • ProDave
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    If it has potential for a building plot, then make sure it is priced right. Either get PP and price it as a plot, or sell it with an uplift clause if anyone gets PP in the future.

    Unless you are in outer Mongolia, the price it should sell for will make your £1200 fees look very reasonable.
  • greatcrested
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    montymouse wrote: »
    ....... have been proposed a minimum fee of £1,200 + VAT.

    ......
    What on earth does a minimum fee mean......?
  • Davesnave
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    montymouse wrote: »
    It might take quite a while to get planning permission. I'm not sure that we would be able to do this with no vehicular access?
    That would depend on your council's policies on such matters. They will realise it's likely the house will be inhabited by persons with vehicles, so if these cannot be parked on the property, they'll add to any parking difficulties which may already exist nearby.

    Building the property would also present problems without vehicular access. Small diggers need very remarkably little access space, but a place for skips and unloading/storing materials would be essential.
  • montymouse
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    ProDave wrote: »
    If it has potential for a building plot, then make sure it is priced right. Either get PP and price it as a plot, or sell it with an uplift clause if anyone gets PP in the future.

    Unless you are in outer Mongolia, the price it should sell for will make your £1200 fees look very reasonable.

    The estate agent said that with PP it would fetch around 80k.

    What is an uplift clause?
  • montymouse
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    What on earth does a minimum fee mean......?

    It's a set fee, or flat fee. Because 1% of what the land would fetch would not be an adequate fee, I presume.
  • AdrianC
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    montymouse wrote:
    ... have been proposed a minimum fee of £1,200 + VAT.
    What on earth does a minimum fee mean......?
    Oooh, wild stab in the dark... A %age, but with a floor.


    So let's say they say 1.5%, but with a £1,200 floor. Anything under £80k sale price will be the minimum £1,200. Anything over that will be 1.5%.
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