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    • D.A.
    • By D.A. 11th Jun 08, 10:01 AM
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    D.A.
    • #2
    • 11th Jun 08, 10:01 AM
    • #2
    • 11th Jun 08, 10:01 AM
    My wife already has a Halifax Regular Saver account. I'm wondering if the 10% rate only applies to new customers, or existing ones?
  • miss_jc
    • #3
    • 11th Jun 08, 11:47 AM
    pitting regular savings against mortgage...?
    • #3
    • 11th Jun 08, 11:47 AM
    I am currently looking for mortgages to buy my first home.

    What do people think about opting for an interest only mortgage - let's say with a fixed rate of 6.5% for 2 years and saving regularly with the halifax regular savings earning 10% and repaying the sum saved at the end of the fixed term?

    Sorry if this seems a silly question. I am new to this 'working out finances' thing and while it seems to make sense to me no-one else seems quite convinced. It would also give me a degree of flexibility as I start off...

    Thoughts greatly appreciated!!

    miss_jc
    • fagun
    • By fagun 11th Jun 08, 12:52 PM
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    • #4
    • 11th Jun 08, 12:52 PM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 12:52 PM
    The artricle has a small mistake regarding the Halifax RS account. The Guaranteed Saver Reward can be a nominated account and pays 6.25%, with one withdrawal allowed during the year. Compared to 7.01% fixed term deposit, you're just over £20 better off if you're saving the full £500 / month.
    Last edited by fagun; 11-06-2008 at 1:12 PM.
  • Paul_Grist
    • #5
    • 11th Jun 08, 2:22 PM
    HSBC regular saver account
    • #5
    • 11th Jun 08, 2:22 PM
    Hi, I note in this section that you say don't bother with HSBC, but for those who already have a plus account (such as I with a Graduate plus account) it negates the monthly fees if your overdraft is reinvested in the reg saver account.

    A quick calc allowed for 1225 deposit in the first month and £25 thereafter (totalling £1500 - the usual size overdraft) giving £135 pretax, whereas the fee for this type of account is £9.95 per month.

    So by using your overdraft for this purpose you gain the services offered on the plus account as well as £15!! or post tax it costs around £10 for the year, which is a darn sight better.

    Not that I can do this, as I was pretty heavily into my overdraft after uni :-(

  • kamari
    • #6
    • 11th Jun 08, 2:44 PM
    Halifax Regular Saver
    • #6
    • 11th Jun 08, 2:44 PM
    Interesting to hear about the new 10% regular saver account from Halifax. I currently have a regular saver with them, at 7% interest. I phoned them today to ask if the new 10% rate would apply to it and was told it would not, I would have to close it and open a new one. If I did that I would lose interest for the 6 months I have already saved. So not a particularly good deal for me and probably others!
    • Milarky
    • By Milarky 11th Jun 08, 2:48 PM
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    Milarky
    • #7
    • 11th Jun 08, 2:48 PM
    • #7
    • 11th Jun 08, 2:48 PM
    Interesting to hear about the new 10% regular saver account from Halifax. I currently have a regular saver with them, at 7% interest. I phoned them today to ask if the new 10% rate would apply to it and was told it would not, I would have to close it and open a new one. If I did that I would lose interest for the 6 months I have already saved. So not a particularly good deal for me and probably others!
    Originally posted by kamari
    Psst! Could you get a relative to open one in their name and you fund it? (If that were an option then you could drop your existing account sub to £25 and put as much as you can afford regularly toward the 10% account)
    .....under construction....
  • Former MSE Dan
    • #8
    • 11th Jun 08, 3:23 PM
    • #8
    • 11th Jun 08, 3:23 PM
    Hi, I note in this section that you say don't bother with HSBC, but for those who already have a plus account (such as I with a Graduate plus account) it negates the monthly fees if your overdraft is reinvested in the reg saver account.

    A quick calc allowed for 1225 deposit in the first month and £25 thereafter (totalling £1500 - the usual size overdraft) giving £135 pretax, whereas the fee for this type of account is £9.95 per month.

    So by using your overdraft for this purpose you gain the services offered on the plus account as well as £15!! or post tax it costs around £10 for the year, which is a darn sight better.

    Not that I can do this, as I was pretty heavily into my overdraft after uni :-(

    Originally posted by Paul_Grist
    Hi Paul,

    I dont think this works in the way that you say, as you can only deposit a maximum of £250 a month, so the lump moved in the first month wouldnt be possible.

    But you are right in a way; we include the HSBC account purely because if you do not want to leave its current account at all, it is one way to claw something back. We just don't want anyone to get one of the expensive HSBC bank accounts if they dont already!

    Dan
  • ibrooks
    • #9
    • 11th Jun 08, 4:34 PM
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    • 11th Jun 08, 4:34 PM
    Is there a step by step guide somewhere to calculating what the interest would be over 12 months for a given AER?

    Basically I'm looking at this new Halifax regular saver and trying to work out what my numbers would be - but..... I can't use the calculator as I'm planning to do the drip-feed but not quite the way you've described.

    Say I had £3k - I can't shove it all in there on day one but I can deposit it at a rate of £500 per month for the first 6 months. That way I've got as much money in there as possible for as long as possible. Now for the remaining 6 months I drop back to whatever I can afford from my monthly budget but making sure I stay above the £25 minimum. So I'll know my running total for what I've paid in but how would the 10% AER be calculated over the 12 months? The half it rule of thumb would presumably be low because the final amount paid in is weighted towards the beginning of the year.

    :confused:
    • Lavendyr
    • By Lavendyr 11th Jun 08, 5:38 PM
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    Lavendyr
    Yes, the calculator linked to in the OP will help you.
    • Paul_Herring
    • By Paul_Herring 12th Jun 08, 9:03 AM
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    Paul_Herring
    Is there a step by step guide somewhere to calculating what the interest would be over 12 months for a given AER?
    Originally posted by ibrooks
    If you want the step by step method/proof rather than just taking any calculators on trust...

    £x - the amount deposited per month
    y% - the Gross/AER (This assumes interest paid yearly.)

    In the first month, you deposit £x, and it acquires 1/12th of y% interest - £x * y%/12
    In the second month, you deposit another £x, and the £2x gets another 1/12th of y% interest - £2x * y%/12
    In the third month deposit another £x resulting in £3x * y%/12 interest for the month
    In the fourth month ... etc.

    So for the full year you have interest of (£x + £2x + £3x+... + £12x)* y%/12

    1+2+3...+12 = 78 So

    Interest = £78x * y%/12 or simplifying (multiply both by 12)
    Interest = £6.5x * y%

    So the quick calculation is to take your monthly deposit, multiply by 6.5 and apply the AER interest to the result. Don't forget to apply income tax at your marginal (top) rate before using the result.
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    • nzseries1
    • By nzseries1 12th Jun 08, 1:39 PM
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    nzseries1
    New Halifax Regular Saver account opened in seconds
    I just opened my Halifax 10% Regular Saver online right now (I already had a Halifax Credit Card so I could apply online).

    Account was opened in less than 60 seconds, and my first bank transfer from HSBC took less than 2 minutes to appear in my new account! I had a new account with cash in it in just a few minutes, without leaving my computer and without having to send in any ID! The most simple account opening I've ever had.

    Elsewhere on the boards people complain about Halifax's bad customer service. Let's hope I never find out about it the hard way. :rolleyes:

    Thanks moneysavingexpert.com! Shame there was no link I could use that helped the site
    • nzseries1
    • By nzseries1 12th Jun 08, 2:00 PM
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    Can anyone tell me, for the halifax regular saver, what is "a month" exactly? I opened my account today (June 12) and put in my £500 - when can I next put in £500? Would it be July 1, or July 12?

    I looked on the Halifax website but it's not clear. It seems to suggest "a month" is a calendar month. But if that were true, technically I could put in 13 payments of £500.
    • Paul_Herring
    • By Paul_Herring 12th Jun 08, 2:14 PM
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    Paul_Herring
    Can anyone tell me, for the halifax regular saver, what is "a month" exactly?
    Originally posted by nzseries1
    From the T&C's, a 'month' is a contiguous period starting on the 1st and ending on the 28th of any calendar month.

    Exactly one payment must be made at any time in each 'month' for the duration of the RS.

    I opened my account today (June 12) and put in my £500 - when can I next put in £500? Would it be July 1, or July 12?
    You can put your second lot in on the 1st July. Or the 2nd. Or anytime such that it arrives at Halifax by the 28th.
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    • nzseries1
    • By nzseries1 12th Jun 08, 2:17 PM
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    nzseries1
    From the T&C's, a 'month' is a contiguous period starting on the 1st and ending on the 28th of any calendar month.
    Originally posted by Paul_Herring
    Thanks so much. I figured it would be in the T&C's, but blind old me couldn't find them anywhere!
    • ctdctd
    • By ctdctd 12th Jun 08, 2:20 PM
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    ctdctd
    Can anyone tell me, for the halifax regular saver, what is "a month" exactly? I opened my account today (June 12) and put in my £500 - when can I next put in £500? Would it be July 1, or July 12?

    I looked on the Halifax website but it's not clear. It seems to suggest "a month" is a calendar month. But if that were true, technically I could put in 13 payments of £500.
    Originally posted by nzseries1
    July 1st - cos this is how mine was set up by the Halifax
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    • ctdctd
    • By ctdctd 12th Jun 08, 2:21 PM
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    ctdctd
    July 1st - cos this is how mine was set up by the Halifax
    Originally posted by ctdctd
    Whoops - seems to be a lag in the Internet - Paul's earlier reply wasn't there when I replied as well!
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  • Crinz
    My wife already has a Halifax Regular Saver account. I'm wondering if the 10% rate only applies to new customers, or existing ones?
    Originally posted by D.A.
    i work for hbos (no abuse please lol). if your wifes regular saver has already started then it will be on the previous rate (i think 7%). if it is due to mature at any point in the next month or so then she will get the 10% rate for the year when she renews

    the rate is fixed when you take this type of account so it isnt changed if you are part way through your year

    hope this helps
    Last edited by Crinz; 12-06-2008 at 7:35 PM.
    • Paul_Herring
    • By Paul_Herring 12th Jun 08, 7:43 PM
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    Paul_Herring
    i work for hbos. if your wifes regular saver has already started then it will be on the previous rate (i think 7%). if it is due to mature at any point in the next month or so then she will get the 10% rate for the year when she renews
    Originally posted by Crinz
    'month or so'?

    So those maturing 7% accounts maturing in the period that 10% are being offered will automatically be upgraded to 10%?

    May I point you in the general direction of the 6% LTSB Current Plus thread? (Where existing Current Plus holders getting 4% don't get the 6% unless they specifically apply.)

    the rate is fixed when you take this type of account so it isnt changed if you are part way through your year
    Covered earlier in the thread. One post pointed out that even if your 7% expired the day after the 10% closed, you'd be better off closing the 7% to get the 10% if you could afford the £500 per month.

    hope this helps
    Not really. An online reference to T&C's confirming your first statement would be useful though....

    Given your vague statements I'm guessing that you are either customer facing staff who hasn't been told what the T&C's are but just a general 'we're doing this 10% thing - here's how it sort of works' or not real an HBOS employee stirring.
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  • Crinz
    whats the point in coming here to try help. never again!

    Yes, I am front-line staff working in a branch in Glasgow but i take offence at you incinuating that i know nothing about what I am writing about.

    When this launched the other day we had loads of people coming in asking about their existing Regular Savings. Some I closed down and restarted as they matured and restarted just weeks ago, and some were just about to end and would automatically convert to the 10% rate.

    http://www.halifax.co.uk/savings/regularsaver.asp

    quote: When the year’s up, your savings and interest are transferred into a nominated savings account which you'll be asked to open when you open you Halifax Regular Saver. Your Regular Saver account remains open, the interest rate applicable at the time is fixed for another year and you simply continue to save.


    when i said 'month or so' - at the moment the plan is for this promotion to be on display in branch etc until End July but as with other banks, it can be withdrawn at any time.


    again, thanks for the warm welcome.
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