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    • MSE Jenny
    • By MSE Jenny 5th Oct 10, 10:09 AM
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    Cheap Train Fares guide discussion
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    • 5th Oct 10, 10:09 AM
    Cheap Train Fares guide discussion 5th Oct 10 at 10:09 AM



    Hi, we've written a Cheap Trains guide to help you play the train ticket system with hidden tricks. You can also check out the latest travel offers, vouchers and discounts on our Cheap Train & Coach Deals page.

    If you've tried the techniques mentioned in the guide, were you successful? How much did you save? Is there anything you'd add?

    Thanks for your help

    MSE Jenny
    Last edited by Former MSE Debs; 08-03-2013 at 2:11 PM.
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    • T8RSP
    • By T8RSP 6th Jan 11, 12:44 AM
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    Bath to Darlington day return - Sat 15th Jan
    Hi everyone!

    I really fancy going to watch my beloved Bath City away at Darlington in 2 Saturday's time. I won't be able to get the time off work for when they are away to them in the league (Grand National Day when I work in a bookies... it's easier to get a meerkat to say simples in a zoo then get the day off that day!) so this extra Trophy game will give me the chance to go to their rather impressive ground.

    I have to go up and back in a day, so know it's going to be a long day for 2 hours, hopefully it will be worth it.

    I have checked already so I have done my research.

    It's a shade over 65 for two singles

    8am from Bath Spa gets me into Darlington after 1 change at Bristol Temple Meads at 1:01.

    Leaving at a bit before 6 gets me back to Bath around 11 (depending on which train I catch from Darlington).

    I have a Young Person's railcard which is why the tickets may seem cheaper than they should!

    I am tempted to try this split ticket idea, but don't know if it will be worth my while.

    Can anyone beat my price?!

    I need to be there by 2pm really which will give me an hour to find the ground and an leaving at 6pm which will give me an hour to find my way back to the train station from the ground! I failed History at school you see.....oh, I see my mistake now! I should have taken the geograpy exam! D'oh!

    Any help or ideas would be fantastic!

    TIA!
    • yorkie2
    • By yorkie2 6th Jan 11, 12:59 AM
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    Hi everyone!

    I really fancy going to watch my beloved Bath City away at Darlington in 2 Saturday's time. I won't be able to get the time off work for when they are away to them in the league (Grand National Day when I work in a bookies... it's easier to get a meerkat to say simples in a zoo then get the day off that day!) so this extra Trophy game will give me the chance to go to their rather impressive ground.

    I have to go up and back in a day, so know it's going to be a long day for 2 hours, hopefully it will be worth it.

    I have checked already so I have done my research.

    It's a shade over 65 for two singles
    Originally posted by T8RSP
    That's a bad deal for Advance singles that are non-refundable and to change the times incurs a 10 admin fee per leg!

    A walk-on Off Peak Return (routed Not London) without splitting is 75.55. I'd always pay a small percentage extra for total flexibility.

    This ticket is valid on any train after 5am Mondays-Fridays and, importantly for you, on literally ANY train on weekends. Return within 1 month.
    I am tempted to try this split ticket idea, but don't know if it will be worth my while.

    Can anyone beat my price?!

    I need to be there by 2pm really which will give me an hour to find the ground and an leaving at 6pm which will give me an hour to find my way back to the train station from the ground! I failed History at school you see.....oh, I see my mistake now! I should have taken the geograpy exam! D'oh!

    Any help or ideas would be fantastic!

    TIA!
    Originally posted by T8RSP
    Yes, if you want Advance fares you can try going via, and splitting at, Manchester. From Manchester to Durham use the TPE website and select the Student 50% off promo.

    If you want walk-on Off Peak Day (CDR) fares, then the places to split (via Derby) are: Cheltenham, Birmingham, Derby, Sheffield and York. I am unsure if this would be cheaper but you can look 'em up and check. I know that for journeys like York-Bristol it is certainly cheaper to split, but when you extend it, the savings can get less (this is because the through SVR fare increases at a lower rate when you get beyond really long distances of over, say, 200 miles or so).

    BTH - CNM 8.20
    CNM - BHM 13.55
    BHM - DBY 9.05
    DBY - SHF 5.80
    SHF - YRK 11.35
    YRK - DAR 11.55
    TOTAL = 59.50

    All above are Off Peak Day Rtn (CDR) fares. Return same day, valid any train on Saturdays. The train must call at the station where you change from one ticket to the next (ie, you cant go via Manchester). All trains if you go via Derby call at these stations as they are all major stations.
    Last edited by yorkie2; 06-01-2011 at 1:08 AM.
    • yorkie2
    • By yorkie2 6th Jan 11, 1:15 AM
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    It's also worth adding, for future reference, that for a journey like Bristol/Bath to York/Darlington it is cheaper to go via London IF you book as soon as tickets go on sale. This is because FGW & EC will have 10 tickets (with your railcard that's even cheaper!) available for travel to/from London, which you can then combine. You just need to either walk (free!), or use Oyster PAYG (about 1.50) to get between Paddington & King's Cross. This is cheaper than a through ticket, whether via London or not, but only if you get there very early. Once these mega cheap deals sell out, it is then cheaper to avoid London as described above. My findings, including a screenshot, can be found here.
    • Jeff Bridges hair
    • By Jeff Bridges hair 6th Jan 11, 12:40 PM
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    Jeff Bridges hair
    Thank goodness for the continued incompetence from our rail companies !!

    Due to the adverse weather, I (and my family) was forced to use our poor railway system to visit family over Xmas and New Year rather than go via car.

    We got six sets of rail tickets for our outward and return journeys. None of these tickets were stamped, clipped or collected from us by any rail inspector. I now intend to claim that these tickets have never been used and to reclaim a refund accordingly. I did exactly the same last year without any probs.

    I'm also hopeful that I will be given train vouchers as compensation with regards the poor quality of one of our rail carriages.

    This means that my overall rail costs will be very small and will be slightly cheaper than by travelling by car; although car will always be my preferance due to it's convenience and comfort compared with trains.

    I just hope the rail companies keep up with their incompetence in the event that I need to use them again.
    Originally posted by Broadstone

    And people wonder why ticket prices go up when there are other travellers out there who are willingly going out of their way to defraud the TOCs.
    • PompeyPete
    • By PompeyPete 6th Jan 11, 12:46 PM
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    I really fancy going to watch my beloved Bath City away at Darlington in 2 Saturday's time.
    Originally posted by T8RSP
    Aren't there other supporters you can get a lift off?
    A mini-bus full of like-minded footie fans usually have a great day out!
    • T8RSP
    • By T8RSP 6th Jan 11, 5:31 PM
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    T8RSP
    There is - but

    Not many people fancy it!

    29 for the return - but it means leaving at 6:30am and returning at midnight probably!

    The Football Club's Supporters Club run the coach travel, they are prepared to make a 200 loss which means they need about 32 to travel on a 49/53 seater coach.

    There is the option of a mini-coach/minibus. But as 2 drivers are needed, the 19 seater becomes an 18 seater.

    There is about 26 people interested in the trip, which means so far it's only viable for two thirds of people who have said they want to go, and they are doing it based on whoever has gone on the most trips so far this season. I've done 8 out of 15 when I know many others have done more, so unless 7 or so people decide "Darlo in mid Jan is a must for me" it's not going to happen and I will need to go via other means!!!

    I am not a student Yorkie2 so I can't do the student deal and I would normally book a lot sooner, but the trip was confirmed a few days before Christmas and I assumed enough people would want to go by coach to allow me to go!

    You know what assuming does...

    Thanks for all your help!

    I think I may pay the extra 10 and get a off peak return. Maybe splitting it, but I know what I'm like - I'll start playing cards with all my train tickets and either lose one or keep it up my sleeve!
    • Broadstone
    • By Broadstone 6th Jan 11, 5:35 PM
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    And people wonder why ticket prices go up when there are other travellers out there who are willingly going out of their way to defraud the TOCs.
    Originally posted by Jeff Bridges hair
    Really ? Just like rail companies conning people and stats by avoiding paying compensation to passengers by cancelling hundreds of trains in the cold weather.

    Suggest that you look at the Daily Telegraph at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/8234406/Rail-passenger-anger-over-Southeastern-Trains-delay-compensation.html for more info.

    To illustratrate what I mean....Southeast raailways, which carries more than 120,000 passengers a day into central London, would have been forced to cut five per cent off season tickets if fewer than 82 per cent of trains ran on time over the last 12 months.

    I have no guilty conscience for what I have done and I will continue to do this with all railway companies !
    Last edited by Broadstone; 06-01-2011 at 5:41 PM.
    • kayl
    • By kayl 6th Jan 11, 5:38 PM
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    Has anyone any idea while fares from Glasgow to Inverness have apparently doubled in 6 months??

    I went with my daughter using a Family and Friends Railcard in June last year and I was really pleased that it only cost 19 for the 2 of us return. I am now trying to book the same journey for 12 weeks time, going on the same days of the week and at the same time, and the cost it is giving is 40! At first I thought that it was not taking account of the Railcard, but in fact without that it would cost 70. The bus would cost the same .

    Would appreciate any help as this wold make it too expensive for me to visit my friends as planned
  • geordie_taxi
    And people wonder why ticket prices go up when there are other travellers out there who are willingly going out of their way to defraud the TOCs.
    Originally posted by Jeff Bridges hair
    Really ? Just like rail companies conning people and stats by avoiding paying compensation to passengers by cancelling hundreds of trains in the cold weather.
    Originally posted by Broadstone
    i was one of those freezing cold passengers stuck at a station for over an hour because of some rubbish railway excuse. thats why i have no problem in sticking in compo claims when something goes wrong
    • yorkie2
    • By yorkie2 6th Jan 11, 5:53 PM
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    i was one of those freezing cold passengers stuck at a station for over an hour because of some rubbish railway excuse. thats why i have no problem in sticking in compo claims when something goes wrong
    Originally posted by geordie_taxi
    Well, depending on the tickets held, and the company policy, the irony is that pretending you didn't travel and asking for a refund on that basis may get you less compensation than if you told the truth and said you did travel and being compensated for the extent of the delay. It would depend on various circumstances though.
  • geordie_taxi
    It would depend on various circumstances though.
    Originally posted by yorkie2
    not really............

    train late/very cold = compo (50% + taxi home (my firm ))

    unused tickets/upset passenger = refund 100% maybe - 10 admin fee waivered with good complaint letter but have to ask broadstone that queston
    • Broadstone
    • By Broadstone 6th Jan 11, 7:04 PM
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    Broadstone
    unused tickets/upset passenger = refund 100% maybe - 10 admin fee waivered with good complaint letter but have to ask broadstone that queston
    Originally posted by geordie_taxi
    I'm working on that one. Not to bothered whether I succeed or fail....last year, I made a small profit on one of my trips. Due to incompetence, one of the railway companies refunded me twice for one of my journeys. I just cashed in both cheques to make the profit. So if I don't recover the 10 admin fee(s), I'm not to bothered !
  • geordie_taxi
    I'm working on that one. Not to bothered whether I succeed or fail....last year, I made a small profit on one of my trips. Due to incompetence, one of the railway companies refunded me twice for one of my journeys. I just cashed in both cheques to make the profit. So if I don't recover the 10 admin fee(s), I'm not to bothered !
    Originally posted by Broadstone
    not bad i got some good compo last year. got a bargain ticket of ebay for 15 (face value 40) did me journey and the train was delayed by over an hour so got 50% compo = 5 up
  • Gene_Hunt
    not bad i got some good compo last year. got a bargain ticket of ebay for 15 (face value 40) did me journey and the train was delayed by over an hour so got 50% compo = 5 up
    Originally posted by geordie_taxi
    Is that legal?
    • Livingthedream
    • By Livingthedream 6th Jan 11, 7:54 PM
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    Livingthedream
    Has anyone any idea while fares from Glasgow to Inverness have apparently doubled in 6 months??

    I went with my daughter using a Family and Friends Railcard in June last year and I was really pleased that it only cost 19 for the 2 of us return. I am now trying to book the same journey for 12 weeks time, going on the same days of the week and at the same time, and the cost it is giving is 40! At first I thought that it was not taking account of the Railcard, but in fact without that it would cost 70. The bus would cost the same .

    Would appreciate any help as this wold make it too expensive for me to visit my friends as planned
    Originally posted by kayl
    Just had a quick look and Scotrail have only released their cheap Advance tickets up to 25th March. Did a quick search on the 21st and there's lots of cheap 8.75 advance tickets each way (1adult and 1 child with railcard), the 42 fare is a Super Off Peak return which will stay the same price now and on the day of travel.

    So if your travelling after the 25th March, you need to wait a little bit longer, use this website to see when there released. Also advance tickets are normally release on the Thursday or Friday weekly.
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    • Livingthedream
    • By Livingthedream 6th Jan 11, 8:16 PM
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    Is that legal?
    Originally posted by Gene_Hunt
    Not illegal to claim Delay Repay Compensation from any ticket you have bought. However, buying tickets off Ebay is not allowed and Ebay as an 'online retailer' has a responsibility to remove these tickets once reported but some do get through.

    That's the problem with Ebay, people use it to off load things there not meant to; ie railway tickets, backup games or my personnel favourite Sky TV 50% discount codes (Free to acquire sold on Ebay for 50+)
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    • Broadstone
    • By Broadstone 6th Jan 11, 8:38 PM
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    However, buying tickets off Ebay is not allowed and Ebay as an 'online retailer' has a responsibility to remove these tickets once reported but some do get through.

    That's the problem with Ebay, people use it to off load things there not meant to; ie railway tickets, backup games or my personnel favourite Sky TV 50% discount codes (Free to acquire sold on Ebay for 50+)
    Originally posted by Livingthedream
    So what and who cares about the railway companies ? especially when they con people and stats by avoiding paying compensation to passengers by cancelling hundreds of trains in the cold weather.

    As I said in a previous posting, I suggest that you look at the Daily Telegraph at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...pensation.html for more info.
  • geordie_taxi
    Is that legal?
    Originally posted by Gene_Hunt
    wasnt going to answering such a stupid question and i dont think ill bother now. ill let somebody else answer it for me

    So what and who cares about the railway companies ? especially when they con people and stats by avoiding paying compensation to passengers by cancelling hundreds of trains in the cold weather.

    As I said in a previous posting, I suggest that you look at the Daily Telegraph at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...pensation.html for more info.
    Originally posted by Broadstone
    • dzug1
    • By dzug1 6th Jan 11, 8:58 PM
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    i have no problem in sticking in compo claims when something goes wrong
    Originally posted by geordie_taxi
    Well yes but that's different from sticking in claims when nothing has gone wrong
    • Broadstone
    • By Broadstone 6th Jan 11, 9:08 PM
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    Well yes but that's different from sticking in claims when nothing has gone wrong
    Originally posted by dzug1

    Yep...a bit like train companies increasing fares and seasons tickets way above inflation after they have conned people and stats by avoiding paying compensation to passengers by cancelling hundreds of trains in the cold weather.
    Last edited by Broadstone; 06-01-2011 at 11:00 PM.
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