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    • expl0rer
    • By expl0rer 14th May 19, 9:59 AM
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    Lodger moved out owing rent and now unreachable
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    • 14th May 19, 9:59 AM
    Lodger moved out owing rent and now unreachable 14th May 19 at 9:59 AM
    The lodger stopped paying while I was away. He said he had lost his job and that he'd move out if he didn't find another one by a specified date.

    He found one, but decided to move out anyway. He promised to pay his arrears by date X by which he would have received his first wages from the new job.
    Date X has passed and I haven't received the money. I've tried calling him, but he's changed his number. I've emailed him and he hasn't responded.

    I was considering taking him to the Small Claims Court, but apparently you need to know the person's address to do that. I don't know his new address. I've read here that when the address is not known, the last known address can be used. But the last known address is my own address. Can I still use that?

    I have a copy of his passport and he paid his rent into my bank account from his, so he is definitely traceable if enough power is given to the authorities, but is the Small Claims route appropriate in this case?

    Is there any other way I can get the money owed to me?
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    • tom9980
    • By tom9980 15th May 19, 4:14 PM
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    Install whatsapp on the phone with their number on, you can see status updates and when the user was last online with that if they have whatsapp installed as well. Potentially useful to know if they are still using a number.
    “In order to change, we must be sick and tired of being sick and tired.”
    • Angalfaria
    • By Angalfaria 15th May 19, 5:48 PM
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    Best of luck. How many cash can I deposite?
    • Thrugelmir
    • By Thrugelmir 15th May 19, 5:50 PM
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    The lodger stopped paying while I was away. He said he had lost his job and that he'd move out if he didn't find another one by a specified date.

    He found one, but decided to move out anyway. He promised to pay his arrears by date X by which he would have received his first wages from the new job.
    Date X has passed and I haven't received the money. I've tried calling him, but he's changed his number. I've emailed him and he hasn't responded.
    Originally posted by expl0rer
    Someone has worked out how to perform a neat scam. You are unlikely to be the only person out of pocket.
    “The stock market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient.” – Warren Buffett
    • Honeylife
    • By Honeylife 15th May 19, 8:34 PM
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    OP you haven't answered the question Did you take a Deposit?

    I am suspecting that you didn't take a Deposit

    This is why people ask for a Deposit. It is for possible Damages to items in room and/or possible Non Payment of Rent and a possible failure to leave the room in good order thus requiring the landlord to employ professional cleaners.

    If the lodger does a midnight flit, then they loose the Deposit!

    Also not a good idea to use the Deposit for the last months rent, as you still need monetary cover for those possibilities mentioned above.
    Last edited by Honeylife; 15-05-2019 at 8:37 PM.
    "... during that time you must never succumb to buying an extra piece of bread for the table or a toy for a child, no." the Pawnbroker 1964
    • Angalfaria
    • By Angalfaria 16th May 19, 7:59 AM
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    You must contact the police so that they can take a legal step to help you.
    • Angalfaria
    • By Angalfaria 16th May 19, 8:00 AM
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    The lodger stopped paying while I was away. He said he had lost his job and that he'd move out if he didn't find another one by a specified date.

    He found one, but decided to move out anyway. He promised to pay his arrears by date X by which he would have received his first wages from the new job.
    Date X has passed and I haven't received the money. I've tried calling him, but he's changed his number. I've emailed him and he hasn't responded.

    I was considering taking him to the Small Claims Court, but apparently you need to know the person's address to do that. I don't know his new address. I've read here that when the address is not known, the last known address can be used. But the last known address is my own address. Can I still use that?

    I have a copy of his passport and he paid his rent into my bank account from his, so he is definitely traceable if enough power is given to the authorities, but is the Small Claims route appropriate in this case?

    Is there any other way I can get the money owed to me?
    Very sad to know this.
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 16th May 19, 10:58 AM
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    You must contact the police so that they can take a legal step to help you.
    Originally posted by Angalfaria


    No, this is a civil issue.


    The police cannot help. (and shouldn't help)
    • expl0rer
    • By expl0rer 18th May 19, 2:39 PM
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    I did take a deposit, but not enough to cover for the period he stayed at the house without paying as I was away for longer and he tricked me into allowing me to stay longer (he told me he'd found a job and would pay).

    Thank you all for your input.
    • Honeylife
    • By Honeylife 18th May 19, 3:03 PM
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    I did take a deposit, but not enough to cover for the period he stayed at the house without paying as I was away for longer and he tricked me into allowing me to stay longer (he told me he'd found a job and would pay).

    Thank you all for your input.
    Originally posted by expl0rer
    Then that is indeed very unfortunate. Take up references from more places with your next lodger and perhaps consider six weeks deposit. Sounds like a lot but that would give you some peace of mind.
    "... during that time you must never succumb to buying an extra piece of bread for the table or a toy for a child, no." the Pawnbroker 1964
    • Angalfaria
    • By Angalfaria 19th May 19, 5:43 PM
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    It's really now unreachable.
    • coffeehound
    • By coffeehound 19th May 19, 6:03 PM
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    I have a copy of his passport
    Originally posted by expl0rer
    What nationality is he?
    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 19th May 19, 6:24 PM
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    What nationality is he?
    Originally posted by coffeehound
    Why?

    OP- The money is gone, you have no chance of recovering it with out spending more money which you will probably never recover.

    I rented a room for 14 years and only happened once to me, although after two months he popped up with some !!!! and bull story about going into hiding (he worked the doors and booted a dealer out) and paid me.
    "Only two things are infinite-the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe"
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    • Angalfaria
    • By Angalfaria 24th May 19, 4:11 AM
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    You must contact the police so that they can take a legal step to help you.
    Originally posted by Angalfaria


    No, this is a civil issue.


    The police cannot help. (and shouldn't help)
    OK, so the matter will be dismissed by conversation but now he is unreachable. So you want to leave this matter or want to do something so that it doesn't happen again to with you.
    Last edited by Angalfaria; Today at 4:16 AM.
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 24th May 19, 7:42 AM
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    OK, so the matter will be dismissed by conversation but now he is unreachable. So you want to leave this matter or want to do something so that it doesn't happen again to with you.
    Originally posted by Angalfaria


    I suggest you look at how forums work. I am not the original poster.


    I have told the OP all the info possible about the recovery process (and the frankly the chances of doing so being not so good)


    You are adding what to this? Because telling the OP to go to the police is fundamentally wrong. Now if you are here to learn about debt, debt recovery and so forth that's great.


    The person is not unreachable. But the cost of recovering the money is greater than the debt owed. For example let's say I owe you £50. I live in Scotland, you live in London.


    You can come collect the money whenever you want, but the cost of coming up to Scotland to do so will be greater than the money recovered. So there's little point in doing so.
    • bigisi
    • By bigisi 24th May 19, 8:31 AM
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    I suggest you look at how forums work. I am not the original poster.


    I have told the OP all the info possible about the recovery process (and the frankly the chances of doing so being not so good)


    You are adding what to this? Because telling the OP to go to the police is fundamentally wrong. Now if you are here to learn about debt, debt recovery and so forth that's great.


    The person is not unreachable. But the cost of recovering the money is greater than the debt owed. For example let's say I owe you £50. I live in Scotland, you live in London.


    You can come collect the money whenever you want, but the cost of coming up to Scotland to do so will be greater than the money recovered. So there's little point in doing so.
    Originally posted by Comms69
    It's obviously an illiterate (in English anyway) post builder. I've reported all it's posts, pointless replying to it now.
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 24th May 19, 8:37 AM
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    It's obviously an illiterate (in English anyway) post builder. I've reported all it's posts, pointless replying to it now.
    Originally posted by bigisi


    I did consider that. Just typically they reply once to lots of threads, rather than lots of times on one thread.


    But I think you're right
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