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    • Sayj
    • By Sayj 8th Jan 19, 11:46 PM
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    Pip Review timescales
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    • 8th Jan 19, 11:46 PM
    Pip Review timescales 8th Jan 19 at 11:46 PM
    Just had a quick question to put my mind at ease
    Have submitted an AR1 review form for my pip back in October which was received on 26th Oct but still no update.
    I have spoke to pip section few times over the course but still sat to be checked by decision maker if it needs to be forwarded to IAS or not.
    I have been on pip for 2 years but prior dla for 7 years for depression anxiety panic attacks agoraphobia and suicidal attempts and have always had paper based assessments.

    Would like to hear from peoples experiences who may have submitted recently for their reviews and their feedbacks timescales etc etc...

    I'm currently so stressed and just want it over with
    There has been no change in my circumstances but I think I've read to much horror stories about people's reviews that I've become a wreck
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 9th Jan 19, 7:31 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 7:31 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 7:31 AM
    Just had a quick question to put my mind at ease
    Have submitted an AR1 review form for my pip back in October which was received on 26th Oct but still no update.
    I have spoke to pip section few times over the course but still sat to be checked by decision maker if it needs to be forwarded to IAS or not.
    I have been on pip for 2 years but prior dla for 7 years for depression anxiety panic attacks agoraphobia and suicidal attempts and have always had paper based assessments.

    Would like to hear from peoples experiences who may have submitted recently for their reviews and their feedbacks timescales etc etc...

    I'm currently so stressed and just want it over with
    There has been no change in my circumstances but I think I've read to much horror stories about people's reviews that I've become a wreck
    Originally posted by Sayj
    All forms/evidence are forwarded to the health assessment providers. DWP don't decide whether to forward them or not.



    Whether you have a paper based assessment or a face to face a report still needs to be written and DWP don't do this.



    As you only returned the form at the end of Oct that's not long at all. You have to take into consideration the Christmas/New Year closing days too.



    There's no time scales for reviews or decisions. It depends on backlog in your area. I returned my daughters form a week after you but haven't heard anything about that yet either.


    As it's a review your money will continue until a decision's been made. Hopefully not too long.
    • _shel
    • By _shel 9th Jan 19, 7:35 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 7:35 AM
    I was told there's a 19 week delay for me when I phoned them so either sit tight or phone for an estimate.
    • Sayj
    • By Sayj 9th Jan 19, 7:59 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 7:59 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 7:59 AM
    Really didn't know that it goes to the medical agency regardless as I've read in the guidelines with reviews it is first looked at by a DM to try make a decision themselves first and to also save costs and time

    When I last spoke to someone was advised timescales are average 12 weeks but if it is still sat there on a DM desk I pretty much doubt there was any truth in what i was told by the agent
    • Sayj
    • By Sayj 9th Jan 19, 8:02 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 8:02 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 8:02 AM
    @_shel 19 week delay really?? What area are you from if you don't mind me asking?
    I'm from West Yorkshire and when I spoke to them in November I was told 5 week delay approx but that I would hear something by first week of January but nothing
    • _shel
    • By _shel 9th Jan 19, 8:18 AM
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    • 9th Jan 19, 8:18 AM
    @_shel 19 week delay really?? What area are you from if you don't mind me asking?
    I'm from West Yorkshire and when I spoke to them in November I was told 5 week delay approx but that I would hear something by first week of January but nothing
    Originally posted by Sayj
    Liverpool. It's been 11 weeks already and she said 19 more last week.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 9th Jan 19, 8:31 AM
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    Really didn't know that it goes to the medical agency regardless as I've read in the guidelines with reviews it is first looked at by a DM to try make a decision themselves first and to also save costs and time
    Originally posted by Sayj
    The health assessment advisory always write the report, so it has to be sent to them. The decision make relies heavily on that and usually goes with the recommendations in there.
    • Sayj
    • By Sayj 25th Jan 19, 1:37 PM
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    • 25th Jan 19, 1:37 PM
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    • 25th Jan 19, 1:37 PM
    **** Update ****
    Received a text message from the DWP advising a paper based assesment has been complete and that I should hear back with a decision within 6 weeks from this text.

    The file was sent across to IAS last week on Friday and the paper based review taken place yesterday

    Anyone know what the report is called so I can request a copy
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 25th Jan 19, 5:48 PM
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    • 25th Jan 19, 5:48 PM
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    • 25th Jan 19, 5:48 PM
    **** Update ****
    Received a text message from the DWP advising a paper based assesment has been complete and that I should hear back with a decision within 6 weeks from this text.

    The file was sent across to IAS last week on Friday and the paper based review taken place yesterday

    Anyone know what the report is called so I can request a copy
    Originally posted by Sayj
    Just ask for a copy of the assessment report, they'll know what your talking about. If you live in the UK they'll send it once they receive it back. Otherwise you'll have to wait until a decision's been made.
    • Sayj
    • By Sayj 5th Feb 19, 12:02 AM
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    I have received the copy of the PA3 form which looks like my award is going to stay the same as far as it goes enhanced care and standard mobility ... but the aspect I dont agree with is the mobility component section 11 planning journey. I have scored on E but feel it should be F.. the HP even contradicts themselves as they agree the evidence from mental health team shows the risks associated outside and the help I need but then refers to gp letter saying it states I suffer psychological distress so dont go out which in fact it doesnt. My gp letter says I suffers from distress in social circumstances so have telephone consultations as I can't bare to sit in a surgery full of people so go early morning when there are less.

    My question is do I wait for the decision to happen and then ask for a MR or do I get to put any input beforehand so the DM doesnt go just by HP report but also looks at the evidence fully.

    I cant imagine giving any additional evidence as the evidence that has been given is clear and consistent and if I request it from GP it would be similar again as it's all fact.

    Would appreciate input
    Many thanks in advance and sorry for the long essay
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 5th Feb 19, 6:48 AM
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    I don't think you should have scored points in the descriptor because you do go out. This descriptor applies to those that can't go out at all. (night time isn't included with this)


    For descriptor f ... can not follow the route of a familiar journey without another person..... when you go to see your GP do you go alone or does someone go with you?



    I'm a little confused by what you said. My gp letter says I suffers from distress in social circumstances so have telephone consultations as I can't bare to sit in a surgery full of people so go early morning when there are less. Do you have telephone consultations or go early morning?
    • Sayj
    • By Sayj 5th Feb 19, 7:14 AM
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    Hi poppy when I go to the GP it's always with my carer
    With reference to the GP letter whenever I have a doctors appointment I try to get appointments for 7am which are very few if ever and this is because there are not much patients at the surgery at the time. As early morning appointments are less and hard to get all the time my GP provides me with telephone consultations as I can't bare to sit in a surgery full of people.

    When I go out yes I do suffer from agoraphobia and panic attacks and my carer has to accompany me to both ensure I'm safe and I do wander.. I do suffer from suicidal ideations and have come in contact in traffic many times which is backed up from a letter from the mental health teams and GP.

    Now I dont understand do i raise the point i dont agree with the descriptor choice before the decision or after.. i recieved a copy of the PA3 as I requested it soon as it was received by the DWP and the decision has still not been made
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 5th Feb 19, 9:05 AM
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    You'll need to wait for a decision to be made before you can request the MR. They usually go with the report, it's rare to go against those recommendations.



    If the letter states what you wrote above then that does seem confusing to me because in the same sentence your GP is saying you have telephone consultations because of distress but you go early in the morning when there's less people. Do be aware of this.
    • Sayj
    • By Sayj 5th Feb 19, 10:33 AM
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    Thank you poppy will wait for the decision and I see what you mean.
    Will speak to my welfare adviser to see what they advise should be put forward even if that may be another gp letter to confirm the appointments and telephone paragraph
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 5th Feb 19, 8:00 PM
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    You do need to be very careful that your evidence doesn't contradict another piece of evidence. These are the things that they could pick up on. Good luck.
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