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    • kpwll
    • By kpwll 18th Jul 14, 10:06 PM
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    stop/start
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    • 18th Jul 14, 10:06 PM
    stop/start 18th Jul 14 at 10:06 PM
    Can you please tell me if you can turn off or over-ride a stop/start facility on any/all cars with this function? Thank you.
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 12:32 PM
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    Great that you found those for me. Quotes two and four directly correspond to


    !"your car isnt very good, alternatives are better" and they aint put downs. so which of your options cover that?
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    Ah, evasion again.

    We should have played tactic bingo here, as to which technique you would next use to avoid answering a direction question.
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
  • topdaddy
    C and D, I would think.
    Originally posted by RichardD1970
    D ok thats thrown around alot on this forum. Because of this its lost its meaning and worth and can be disreagrded. C is debatable. Are the reveiws that say the same ignorant too? Whats your opinion on the car? Is no criticism of any car permitted?dutr seems to think there are no better cars, a kind of automotive communisim if you will.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 12:34 PM
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    For clarity you are saying cars arent better than walking?
    And yes, just because it costs more that doesnt make it better. But the nice chappys who make the car say a certain spec/model/engine etc is better than another, they would know right? And the fact they charge more for it reinforces it not defines it(although maybe for them as a business it does)
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    Changing a cars spec doesnt make it "better".
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
  • topdaddy
    Ah, evasion again.

    We should have played tactic bingo here, as to which technique you would next use to avoid answering a direction question.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Its not evasion. Im indicating that your options are lacking.
  • topdaddy
    Changing a cars spec doesnt make it "better".
    Originally posted by motorguy
    What ?
    • DUTR
    • By DUTR 26th Jul 14, 12:38 PM
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    For clarity you are saying cars arent better than walking?
    And yes, just because it costs more that doesnt make it better. But the nice chappys who make the car say a certain spec/model/engine etc is better than another, they would know right? And the fact they charge more for it reinforces it not defines it(although maybe for them as a business it does)
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    Yes for clarity, I am saying cars are not better than walking, you know that is fact too, you walk to the car, you walk away from the car.

    The nice chappies who make the car or the nice marketeers? A Maybach or Bugatti Veyron can both be considered to be nice cars both can be considered to be expensive, however compared to the say humble Ford Focus 1.4 then that could be deemed better for purchase cost, running costs , spares, practiciality etc.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 12:38 PM
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    D ok thats thrown around alot on this forum. Because of this its lost its meaning and worth and can be disreagrded. C is debatable. Are the reveiws that say the same ignorant too? Whats your opinion on the car? Is no criticism of any car permitted?dutr seems to think there are no better cars, a kind of automotive communisim if you will.
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    You have your definition of "better", i would have mine.

    "Better" depends on your own needs.

    The point was you said it was crap because it wasnt practical. You've since "adjusted" that stance because you know you're wrong. You said "a fool and their money are easy parted" - but if its exactly what they want, how are they a fool? Surely something that meets your specific requirements is a better purchase than just being a sheep and buying what someone else says is better, but doesnt really suit your requirements?
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
  • topdaddy

    I'm actually embarassed f.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    No surprise there
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 12:40 PM
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    What ?
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    Whats hard to understand about that?

    A car with a different spec configuration or a bigger engine, does not necessarily make it better.
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 12:40 PM
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    No surprise there
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    Its really clutching at straws when you have to edit peoples posts and remove words just to make a feeble joke. Its like something a small child would do in a playground.

    (and you managed to even !!!! that up)

    Last edited by motorguy; 26-07-2014 at 12:45 PM.
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 12:45 PM
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    Its not evasion. Im indicating that your options are lacking.
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    Based on every other post you've put - including this one - no i dont think they are.
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
  • topdaddy
    Well, I waited so long for a response, I was kinda hoping that it would at least be half decent. Suppose you can't have everything.



    Again, you're arguing the wrong thing. You correctly stated your source as google, however when I looked it up, the definition you put was incorrect. What you put was actually a synonym. Not exactly major, I'll give you that, but you were still wrong and it's exactly the sort of thing that, if the positions were reversed, you'd argue about.

    However, the bit about shooting yourself in the foot was not even about that. If you recall, you shot yourself in the foot when you sarcastically said "google is your only source for this argument" when, in fact, I was quoting your post about the google definition. So not even my source.


    I have made this point so many times, yet you are still missing it. Try just re-reading my posts from before, maybe in a few weeks you'll understand.

    Perfect =/= incomplete.
    Originally posted by F1F93
    So you are saying that perfect cannot be incomplete? Changed you tune about time. And remind me, where did i say google was your source? I said it was mine. If i recall you said the oxford english dictionary was yours? Although i confess i do get very drowsy reading your posts so I may be mistaken
  • topdaddy
    Based on every other post you've put - including this one - no i dont think they are.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Then we agree to disagree. Maybe consistant should be one of them as eveidenced by you quoting stuff weeks ago and me stating the same now.
  • topdaddy
    Whats hard to understand about that?

    A car with a different spec configuration or a bigger engine, does not necessarily make it better.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    No, not always but a base model isnt as good as the top of the range model regardless of marques or model. Its better right? Or "more good" if you prefer?
  • topdaddy
    Its really clutching at straws when you have to edit peoples posts and remove words just to make a feeble joke. Its like something a small child would do in a playground.

    (and you managed to even !!!! that up)

    Originally posted by motorguy
    Really? Many kids you know on motoring forums?
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 1:01 PM
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    Then we agree to disagree. Maybe consistant should be one of them as eveidenced by you quoting stuff weeks ago and me stating the same now.
    Originally posted by topdaddy


    I'll mark that up as "deluded" then.
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 26th Jul 14, 1:02 PM
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    Really? Many kids you know on motoring forums?
    Originally posted by topdaddy
    Just the one, apparently.
    Just because you're offended doesnt mean you're right
  • topdaddy
    Yes for clarity, I am saying cars are not better than walking, you know that is fact too, you walk to the car, you walk away from the car.

    The nice chappies who make the car or the nice marketeers? A Maybach or Bugatti Veyron can both be considered to be nice cars both can be considered to be expensive, however compared to the say humble Ford Focus 1.4 then that could be deemed better for purchase cost, running costs , spares, practiciality etc.
    Originally posted by DUTR
    Ahhh I see. I was wrong when i said communist, your more of a socialist. Thats fair enough.





    but a focus is better than a veyron?
  • topdaddy
    Just the one, apparently.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    And who would that be?
  • topdaddy


    I'll mark that up as "deluded" then.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    In what way? I said it then, ive said it now(prior to you remind us what was said) indicating its consistant.
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