Amazon - TV Purchase not as described.

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I bought a TV from Amazon and it's not as per the description on the website. The website states the item has "Freeview Plus". The manufacturer has advised the model in question doesn't. Amazon want me to return the item for a full refund. I would have thought that I'd be entitled to a partial discount ( quick reading Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 suggests as the goods not as described I'd be entitled to a discount on the price paid of 25%, 50%, 75% or 100% discount depending on whether the breach (incorrectly described products presumably being a breach) is considered to be minor, significant, serious or very serious? Or am I being thick and or unreasonble (both all too frequent occurences!).
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  • BoGoF
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    Usual question with Amazon related enquiries.....was this a 3rd party seller or direct from Amazon.

    But no, you are not going to get a 25% discount if you want to keep it.
  • uptown1973
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    direct fom Amazon.
  • Aylesbury_Duck
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    You’re entitled to be put back in your original position, no more, no less. They may offer you a discount if you ask, but you’re not legally entitled to one.
  • mattyprice4004
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    Why would you be entitled to a partial discount?
    If they want you to return it for a refund, that's what you need to do. They're not obliged just to hand out money because there's a mistake in the description.
  • Consumer Rights Act does actually offer the right to a price reduction

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/24/enacted

    Amazon can't replace or repair as the thing they advertised doesn't exist.

    The wording is a little complex (for me at least) so I'm not 100% sure in what situation the right to a price reduction would apply and whether the OP would be entitled to one.
  • Ganga
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    Consumer Rights Act does actually offer the right to a price reduction

    www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/24/enacted

    Amazon can't replace or repair as the thing they advertised doesn't exist.

    The wording is a little complex (for me at least) so I'm not 100% sure in what situation the right to a price reduction would apply and whether the OP would be entitled to one.

    So are they entitled to a discount or not? i suspect not but Amazon may give something rather than transport costs,refunds etc.
    ITS NOT EASY TO GET EVERYTHING WRONG ,I HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DO IT!
  • DoaM
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    My interpretation is ... the CRA allows a price reduction to be an agreed remedy ... it doesn't entitle the consumer to demand a price reduction. The seller can still opt for/impose another remedy (replacement or refund).
  • Ganga wrote: »
    i suspect not

    Based on?

    The link says

    (5)A consumer who has the right to a price reduction and the final right to reject may only exercise one (not both), and may only do so in one of these situations—
    (a)after one repair or one replacement, the goods do not conform to the contract;
    (b)because of section 23(3) the consumer can require neither repair nor replacement of the goods; or
    (c)the consumer has required the trader to repair or replace the goods, but the trader is in breach of the requirement of section 23(2)(a) to do so within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to the consumer.

    23(3)The consumer cannot require the trader to repair or replace the goods if that remedy (the repair or the replacement)—
    (a)is impossible, or
    (b)is disproportionate compared to the other of those remedies.

    The bit I don't understand is this

    (4)The right to a price reduction does not apply—
    (a)if what the consumer is (before the reduction) required to transfer under the contract, whether or not already transferred, cannot be divided up so as to enable the trader to receive or retain only the reduced amount, or
    (b)if anything to which section 20(12) applies cannot be given back in its original state.
  • DoaM
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    I read (4)(b) as meaning that if the goods are unable to be returned to the seller unmolested due to their nature (e.g. consumables) ... the consumer can insist on a price reduction. In the OP's case the TV can be returned unmolested so the seller can insist on a replacement or refund and doesn't have to offer a price reduction.
  • DoaM wrote: »
    I read (4)(b) as meaning that if the goods are unable to be returned to the seller unmolested due to their nature (e.g. consumables) ... the consumer can insist on a price reduction. In the OP's case the TV can be returned unmolested so the seller can insist on a replacement or refund and doesn't have to offer a price reduction.

    Section 20 referred to above mentions:

    (9)The consumer’s entitlement to receive a refund works as follows.
    (10)To the extent that the consumer paid money under the contract, the consumer is entitled to receive back the same amount of money.
    (11)To the extent that the consumer transferred anything else under the contract, the consumer is entitled to receive back the same amount of what the consumer transferred, unless subsection (12) applies.
    (12)To the extent that the consumer transferred under the contract something for which the same amount of the same thing cannot be substituted, the consumer is entitled to receive back in its original state whatever the consumer transferred.

    In that sense transferred appears to be referring to payment other than money.

    Which appears to say if you paid for your goods with something else and the trader can not cut that into two parts then the right to a part refund doesn't exist.

    Would be nice if they wrote these things in nice, easy words for the layman to understand.
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