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    • amieloustew
    • By amieloustew 21st Oct 19, 11:30 AM
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    House Viewing -AWKWARD!!
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    • 21st Oct 19, 11:30 AM
    House Viewing -AWKWARD!! 21st Oct 19 at 11:30 AM
    Myself and my partner are first time buyers and have been looking for properties for the past couple of months. Budget 100K and hoping to put down between a 8-10% deposit.

    We had a viewing at a property last week and we really like it - great area, property needs next to no work (just personal decor changes), sellers move into new build property fairly soon.

    However, the viewing was really awkward. I was expecting to meet with an estate agent or a representative of the estate agent however it was the property owners showing us around and it felt really awkward. It felt like they were trying too hard and I felt I couldn't have a proper nosey around as they were in the house.

    My question is, can I arrange a second viewing and request that they aren't present? I assume they have chosen to deal with viewing themselves and oped not to involve a representative. Is this rude?

    Any advise is much appreciated.

    Amie
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    • Niv
    • By Niv 21st Oct 19, 11:35 AM
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    You could ask but I think that may become even more awkward. When i sold my house I generally made myself scares however there were occasions when I was home. I just stayed in the living room.


    You could try to arrange a viewing during work hours (I know not everyone works 9-5 Mon-Fri- but tis a thought!) so that there is less chance of them being home?
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    • oozle1989
    • By oozle1989 21st Oct 19, 11:39 AM
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    As awkward as it was, you shouldn't really have held back on the first viewing regardless of who was doing it. If you wanted to have a closer look at something or somewhere, you should have just said. After all, they are trying to sell you their house and sure they would have obliged.

    Its not uncommon to have a second viewing so i'd arrange another one but approach it with a bit more confidence this time. Have a written list of questions you'd like to ask. If theres something you'd like to see more of then tell them.
    • bopsybunny
    • By bopsybunny 21st Oct 19, 11:42 AM
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    It's their home so it's their choice as to whether to allow it, but I'd be surprised if they didn't accommodate your request, as they are trying to sell. I don't think you're being rude in asking for that. If you're going to buy a house, you want to feel that you've had the opportunity to have a proper good look around, in your own time and in enough detail. If the owners made you feel like you couldn't look properly, I'd worry they were hiding something. They could have just felt nervous and slightly awkward themselves.

    If they haven't paid for the estate agent to hold viewings, they might just let you have a look around while they stay in another room or in the garden or something. We usually got showed round by the owner, and then (at the same appointment) looked around every room again on our own.

    Personally I preferred being shown around homes by the owners, as they actually know things about the property and it was good to get their perspective on why they bought the house to start with, and why they were selling. Also good to get a decent rapport with them if it becomes a bidding war with other potential buyers! We had several bad experiences with estate agents not showing up at all and nobody being home, leaving us stranded knocking on the door of an empty house!
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    • Crumble2018
    • By Crumble2018 21st Oct 19, 11:42 AM
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    I have never NOT been shown around by the vendor! Surely it's standard unless the property is already empty??
    • Niv
    • By Niv 21st Oct 19, 11:47 AM
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    I have never NOT been shown around by the vendor! Surely it's standard unless the property is already empty??
    Originally posted by Crumble2018


    No its not 'standard'. I have only ever shown around a perspective buyer if the EA was not available. It was just part of their service.
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    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 21st Oct 19, 11:48 AM
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    I have never NOT been shown around by the vendor! Surely it's standard unless the property is already empty??
    Originally posted by Crumble2018
    From previous discussions here it seems to a large extent to be a regional thing - it's certainly the norm in Scotland for owner-occupiers to do viewings (unless it's a time they can't manage), and would be downright weird for a buyer to ask for anything else. Think the OP just needs to be brave enough to nose around as they wish. If of course the sellers are actually preventing them from doing so, beware!
    • borkid
    • By borkid 21st Oct 19, 11:49 AM
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    We've always shown people around when selling. First we take them around pointing out things and answering questions then we let them walk around by themselves ( I make sure valubles are out of the way). I've only had one incident when a child, about 10, picked up my guitar and tried to play it. It was only when I told him to put it down that the parents stepped in and told him not to touch anything. Luckily it was only my cheap guiatr if it had been my good one I would have flipped.


    From my experience people usually ask for a second viewing and often bring another family member often mum. You could always ask to be left to look around by yourselves so you can 'discuss things in private'. When viewing I've even taken photos, asked first, we did have a 2 hour journey to view though so couldn't pop back easily to check.
    • stripeyfox
    • By stripeyfox 21st Oct 19, 11:50 AM
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    I've always showed people round my house when I'm selling it. To be honest, I think I do a better job than any estate agent could. But I agree it can be an awkward ordeal for both parties. I normally give them the quick tour and then ask them if they want to look around some more then field any questions they may have.

    Thing I've found is it is all very polite and you don't get much real feedback. I suppose no one is going to say to your face "I hate your house, I wouldn't live here in a million years".
    • RelievedSheff
    • By RelievedSheff 21st Oct 19, 11:51 AM
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    We showed all of the potential buyers around our old house. It is the norm where we are based.

    We did try and show them each room first and then let them have a look around again themselves while we made ourselves scarce.

    We must have done an OK job as the first people of the five to to view it on the Saturday ended up offering and securing it on the Monday!
    • amieloustew
    • By amieloustew 21st Oct 19, 11:55 AM
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    As awkward as it was, you shouldn't really have held back on the first viewing regardless of who was doing it. If you wanted to have a closer look at something or somewhere, you should have just said. After all, they are trying to sell you their house and sure they would have obliged.
    Originally posted by oozle1989
    It's hard to explain but I get your point completely. We did get an opportunity to look around by ourselves and they did leave us alone but I just think they felt as or even more uncomfortable than we were.

    I may try to go back with my mum or my partners mum and from the outset say we would like to have a nosey alone.

    Thanks again for your response, so new to this and getting paranoid over tiny things!
    • MaxiRobriguez
    • By MaxiRobriguez 21st Oct 19, 11:55 AM
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    With all due respect, surely there's not much you missed on a first viewing on a house worth 100k?

    What are you planning to do, look through their drawers?
    • vacheron
    • By vacheron 21st Oct 19, 11:56 AM
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    All the houses we viewed here (North East) we were shown round by the owners. The only times we had an agent show us round were when the property was unoccupied.

    If the owner understands the psychology, then they should show you round and then leave you to yourselves. The ususal way we experienced was the "why don't I make us all a cuppa in the kitchen while you take a look around and I'll see you in there whenever you're done".

    However, if they followed you round like a hawk and then didn't take the hint, then it possibly could be awkward.
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    • amieloustew
    • By amieloustew 21st Oct 19, 11:57 AM
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    We showed all of the potential buyers around our old house. It is the norm where we are based.

    We did try and show them each room first and then let them have a look around again themselves while we made ourselves scarce.

    We must have done an OK job as the first people of the five to to view it on the Saturday ended up offering and securing it on the Monday!
    Originally posted by RelievedSheff
    Amazing well done!!

    It was just odd as it was our first one like this and I;m unsure of how many viewings the property had prior to this - I imagine it was very few if any at all.

    I will try again and be more confident!

    Thanks
    • amieloustew
    • By amieloustew 21st Oct 19, 12:00 PM
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    Think the OP just needs to be brave enough to nose around as they wish. If of course the sellers are actually preventing them from doing so, beware!
    Originally posted by davidmcn
    I think confidence is my issue here as I am very new to this and kind of doing it all myself. I need to remember that they should be trying to sell the house to me. The sellers did lat us look around but as it's a flat, there wasn't anywhere private for them to be while we looked that wasn't outside the flat itself.

    Thanks!
    • amieloustew
    • By amieloustew 21st Oct 19, 12:02 PM
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    From my experience people usually ask for a second viewing and often bring another family member often mum. You could always ask to be left to look around by yourselves so you can 'discuss things in private'. When viewing I've even taken photos, asked first, we did have a 2 hour journey to view though so couldn't pop back easily to check.
    Originally posted by borkid
    Thanks for your advise, I think I will arrange a second viewing and take my mum or my partners mum as it might make them feel more comfortable. Maybe the age difference threw them.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 21st Oct 19, 12:03 PM
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    Its not uncommon to have a second viewing so i'd arrange another one but approach it with a bit more confidence this time. Have a written list of questions you'd like to ask, & list of things you want to look at/check (eg the attic). If theres something you'd like to see more of then tell them.
    Originally posted by oozle1989
    After they've walked round with you, ask if they mind if you go round again alone so you can discuss your plans("It's a lovely house but we will be making a few changes")


    Nothing wrong with a 2nd or 3rd viewing. How long were you there the 1st time? 10 minutes? 20? To consider a X00,000 purchase?


    When buying a dress (100-200?) for a special occasion, how many times do you try it on and how long do you spend!?
    • amieloustew
    • By amieloustew 21st Oct 19, 12:04 PM
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    With all due respect, surely there's not much you missed on a first viewing on a house worth 100k?

    What are you planning to do, look through their drawers?
    Originally posted by MaxiRobriguez
    I wanted to look through fitted wardrobes and I know now I should have just asked. Hopefully the confidence will come the more viewings I attend.
    • stripeyfox
    • By stripeyfox 21st Oct 19, 12:08 PM
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    I think confidence is my issue here as I am very new to this and kind of doing it all myself. I need to remember that they should be trying to sell the house to me. The sellers did lat us look around but as it's a flat, there wasn't anywhere private for them to be while we looked that wasn't outside the flat itself.

    Thanks!
    Originally posted by amieloustew
    Don't worry about it. It can be an awkward experience. British politeness and manners I think getting in the way of being frank and uprfront. At the end of the day you are walking around someone's home silently judging it whilst politely smiling and saying "that's nice".

    Chances are the owners are feeling equally as awkward, wanting to sell their house, and hoping you "like" it and wondering what the correct amount of guidance to give you is? They may be thinking "do they want to be shown around or left alone?". Go back and just ask nicely if they mind if you can have a few minutes to look around.

    I think when you know, you know. I've spent longer choosing what to have for dinner than at least two of the houses I've brought in the past. Much of the decision making is based on the area, schools, shops, transport connections, price etc - the actual viewing of the house is only a part of it in my opinion,

    Good luck with it
    • Mutton Geoff
    • By Mutton Geoff 21st Oct 19, 12:08 PM
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    No its not 'standard'. I have only ever shown around a perspective buyer if the EA was not available. It was just part of their service.
    Originally posted by Niv
    Or the vendor is marketing via a cheap online agent? In which case, pay particular attention to the pricing as it may be “optimistic”.

    I've always showed people round my house when I'm selling it. To be honest, I think I do a better job than any estate agent could. But I agree it can be an awkward ordeal for both parties. I normally give them the quick tour and then ask them if they want to look around some more then field any questions they may have.

    Thing I've found is it is all very polite and you don't get much real feedback. I suppose no one is going to say to your face "I hate your house, I wouldn't live here in a million years".
    Originally posted by stripeyfox
    I have a lot of experience in sales and marketing. I’d say vendors are the worst people to sell a house (from a sellers point of view). They are generally too open and honest and talk too much.

    The OP should use this to their advantage. Make another booking and probe the heck out of the vendors. Why are you selling? Where are you moving to, how far advanced are you. How are the neighbours, how much are you paying for utilities, any antisocial behaviour nearby, how quiet at night, what issues have you had. If you were staying, what changes/updates would you do? Etc etc.

    An agent will always give you a non committal answer but vendors will open up. And if necessary, just say to them “can you give us some time on our own”.

    If I’m selling, I always let the agent do all viewings and go out for an hour. If I’m buying, I want to see the whites of the vendor’s eyes.
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