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    • surfsister
    • By surfsister 21st Oct 19, 7:58 AM
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    help please upgrade from xp to anything which works!
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    • 21st Oct 19, 7:58 AM
    help please upgrade from xp to anything which works! 21st Oct 19 at 7:58 AM
    HP Pavillion xd8000

    Hi guys just come into the above laptop which is lovely quality and has a lovely wide screen which was going to use for watching dvd's for elderly relative but can't get it to run as on XP. I out a dvd in and it says no dvd driver.

    Any cheap way I can get it to run to play dvd's and maybe for him to do email??

    I am not that good with computers but can do the basics.
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    • A.Penny.Saved
    • By A.Penny.Saved 21st Oct 19, 10:01 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:01 AM
    Is that a HP Pavillion zd8000 rather than xd8000?

    It should read a DVD using standard windows drivers even if it cannot actually play the media itself.

    Software support for windows xp is now very poor because most coders will not program to include it as it is no longer supported by microsoft.

    Browsers will be a big problem in that regard.

    You might have to install Linux on it to get it to do anything useful. There is lots of available free software on Linux and it is less prone to malware than windows. I wouldn't usually recommend Linux but it might be the best option here.
    • surfsister
    • By surfsister 21st Oct 19, 10:12 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:12 AM
    hi thanks for reply no it is xd8000

    when i put dvd in it says no player installed

    yes linux would be fine anything really to save it as the screen is lovely and buttons easy for old fingers. relative!

    could you perhaps recommend a safe download and how to do it as it only has internet explorer which is really old version. can i update it do you think?

    thanks so much this site is invaluable.
    • fenlander_uk
    • By fenlander_uk 21st Oct 19, 10:27 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:27 AM
    The usual advice is to go for a lightweight version of Ubuntu or Mint. However Zorin also seems to appeal to novice users migrating from Windows. There's a good introductory video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEHr3B4KgTY.
    • surfsister
    • By surfsister 21st Oct 19, 10:30 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:30 AM
    thanks will look!
    • Colin_Maybe
    • By Colin_Maybe 21st Oct 19, 10:33 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:33 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:33 AM
    Ubuntu is very good and probably the de facto standard, try the following websites to download the OS, to install on to a USB stick and to install on to the laptop from the USB stick:

    https://ubuntu.com/#download
    https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
    https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#0
    • surfsister
    • By surfsister 21st Oct 19, 10:36 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:36 AM
    thanks all will have a go fingers crossed!
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 21st Oct 19, 10:45 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 10:45 AM
    HP Pavillion xd8000

    Hi guys just come into the above laptop which is lovely quality and has a lovely wide screen which was going to use for watching dvd's for elderly relative but can't get it to run as on XP. I out a dvd in and it says no dvd driver.

    Any cheap way I can get it to run to play dvd's and maybe for him to do email??

    I am not that good with computers but can do the basics.
    Originally posted by surfsister
    Yeah Windows XP can't play DVDs in its out of the box status. Third party software solution needed. The default option was PowerDVD back in the day but these days VLC still works on XP.

    As to email - this has a free version which looks very similar to what Outlook Express in Windows XP looked like, might be worth a look:
    https://www.oeclassic.com/

    If that doesn't do what you want the only other option is web mail solutions but that involves going on the internet which isn't recommended for XP as its obsolete. Consider the alternatives for a Linux/Ubuntu base instead.
    • mksysb
    • By mksysb 21st Oct 19, 11:11 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 11:11 AM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 11:11 AM
    Ubuntu is very good and probably the de facto standard, try the following websites to download the OS, to install on to a USB stick and to install on to the laptop from the USB stick:

    https://ubuntu.com/#download
    https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
    https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#0
    Originally posted by Colin_Maybe
    xubuntu is probably better for old machines as the xfce desktop uses much less resources that the gnome desktop
    https://xubuntu.org/download
    • Cisco001
    • By Cisco001 21st Oct 19, 11:16 AM
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    Instead of installing Linux, I would suggest you try installing software like vlc player or K-Lite Codec Pack if you only use it as DVD player.
    Last edited by Cisco001; 21-10-2019 at 11:18 AM.
    • A.Penny.Saved
    • By A.Penny.Saved 21st Oct 19, 11:23 AM
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    hi thanks for reply no it is xd8000

    when i put dvd in it says no player installed

    yes linux would be fine anything really to save it as the screen is lovely and buttons easy for old fingers. relative!

    could you perhaps recommend a safe download and how to do it as it only has internet explorer which is really old version. can i update it do you think?

    thanks so much this site is invaluable.
    Originally posted by surfsister
    I do not think that there are any recent browsers that work on XP. I had problems finding a browser when I last used it. That means that no sites will fully support the browser.

    It's the same with Mozilla Thunderbird email client, that needs Windows 7.

    Your probably better off installing Linux then you can use the latest Firefox and Thunderbird. Look at the Linux recommendations given by the other members in this thread.
    • surfsister
    • By surfsister 22nd Oct 19, 3:56 PM
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    thanks all about to have a go!!!
    • jeradon
    • By jeradon 23rd Oct 19, 10:01 AM
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    K-Lite Codec Pack is a good software. It allows me to play various audio/video formats.
    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 23rd Oct 19, 10:20 AM
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    K-Lite was certainly the thing to have 15 years ago, no idea if it's still trustworthy. Didn't even know it was still around - assuming it's not a malware packed fake.

    VLC would imho be a better choice as it will play pretty much anything and is open source.
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 23rd Oct 19, 11:11 AM
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    According to Wiki, K-Lite hasn't worked on XP since version 13.8.5 which was pushed out in August 2018.

    This sort of thing is a "relic" I suppose from the days when Windows would only play Media Player files and these packs add support for other technologies in that came along later so that Media Player and friends could use them.

    On modern versions of Windows which can play most things out of the box (and what it can't it will be able to by grabbing the appropriate codec off the Store), its sort of redundant really IMO. Not totally because it depends what you're doing and your needs but it's sort of a "your mileage may vary" sort of thing.

    Then of course you have the likes of VLC which will play pretty much anything you throw at it, a solution that solves the need for extra codecs in the first place (plus of course it can do other things besides play media).
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 23rd Oct 19, 12:40 PM
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    Older versions of K-Lite avalable through filehippo

    https://filehippo.com/download_klite_codec_pack/history/3/

    That or VLC on XP will sort you out, no need to go linux if you're not comfortable with techie stuff
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......

    I have a dodgy "i" key, so ignore spelling errors due to "i" issues, ...I blame Apple
    • A.Penny.Saved
    • By A.Penny.Saved 23rd Oct 19, 6:18 PM
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    hi thanks for reply no it is xd8000

    when i put dvd in it says no player installed

    yes linux would be fine anything really to save it as the screen is lovely and buttons easy for old fingers. relative!

    could you perhaps recommend a safe download and how to do it as it only has internet explorer which is really old version. can i update it do you think?

    thanks so much this site is invaluable.
    Originally posted by surfsister
    Older versions of K-Lite avalable through filehippo

    https://filehippo.com/download_klite_codec_pack/history/3/

    That or VLC on XP will sort you out, no need to go linux if you're not comfortable with techie stuff
    Originally posted by GunJack
    You are totally missing that the laptop will not only be used to play DVD's, it will be used for normal internet activities such as web browsing and email which XP can no longer support due to lack of available browsers and email clients.

    klite codec pack was a POS and unnecessary for many years ie >a decade. VLC was another POS IMO.

    Linux should solve all this and be supported with security updates for a long time.
    • surfsister
    • By surfsister 23rd Oct 19, 8:19 PM
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    thanks all think will try vlc first then linux if that works! it has great loud speakers great for deaf ears about ten time louder than my day to day dell
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 23rd Oct 19, 8:35 PM
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    Out of interest, why has nobody suggested at least trying Windows 10? The 32 bit version will run on pretty minimal specs, and it may be easier for the user to use something he's more familiar with.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • Carrot007
    • By Carrot007 23rd Oct 19, 8:55 PM
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    You are totally missing that the laptop will not only be used to play DVD's, it will be used for normal internet activities such as web browsing and email
    Originally posted by A.Penny.Saved

    While I agreeregarind XP and the internet this has never been confirmed. OP was just mentioning downloading so VLC assumedly. I would just download on a different machine and use a usb stick, but XP is probably quite safe now on the internet as it is so unused no one bothers targeting it. Not that anyone sane would use it. Was bad enough at the time.





    VLC was another POS IMO.
    Originally posted by A.Penny.Saved

    VLC is the best media player then and now. Yes it has issues with some things. Things most people will never encounter. I use other things for them. I'm sure you would not like them either. VLC plays dvd's great and even blurays ok (as long as they are unencrypted).




    Linux should solve all this and be supported with security updates for a long time.
    Originally posted by A.Penny.Saved

    Linux really is the best option. And not hard to install these days from a USB stick or disk if you must! Last desktop distro I used was mint. Ran great. Don;t really use it now as no need, well except the filestore box which runs debian (which I would recommend except the pain of adding the non free repository so you can get proper drivers and stuff).
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