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    • Mica98
    • By Mica98 18th Oct 19, 10:00 AM
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    Is my mom charging too much?
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    • 18th Oct 19, 10:00 AM
    Is my mom charging too much? 18th Oct 19 at 10:00 AM
    Hi, so I am currently working part time and studying with the OU. I earn £700 a month and my mom takes £250 in board (reduced from £350), on top of that I have over £200 of my own bills to pay. I'm a bit annoyed as she has started asking me to pay bills out of my own money, is that not what board is for? I'd like to add that as I'm studying with the OU, I'm not entitled to a Student loan, so I don't have any extra money.

    Do you think this is fair? And before anyone says "wait until you have your own place" I most likely will have graduated by then and have a full time job.
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    • theoretica
    • By theoretica 18th Oct 19, 8:54 PM
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    As I said in my post, by then, I will have graduated and have a full time job. Since I only have time to work part time, it seems like too much money at the moment.
    Originally posted by Mica98

    That is the reality of working part time - if I reduced my hours at work the price of milk, electricity or anything else wouldn't change. I would just have less money and more time.
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    • rikbar
    • By rikbar 19th Oct 19, 7:52 AM
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    Hi Mica98

    Welcome to the world of many children who have now turned adult and whose family either canít or wonít provide the lifestyle they were used to for free anymore. The reasons for this can be many and I have no idea as to your motherís situation but can only assume from your posts that she isnít flush and probably relied upon benefits when you were at an age they could be claimed.

    The concept of what is fair is hard, and between family members difficult to agree on with all the emotions etc. My oldest would always look at what his mates got and say it was unfair he didnít get the same, he really couldnít understand that families have very different situations and therefore life, rather than what he got from us, was unfair.

    Standing back as an observer the only way you can determine if things are fair is to look at what it would cost if you had to live in a similar situation with a non family member. I did this with my son, we went on spare room and looked at similar sized houses, estimated the cost of food for the week on a Tesco shop and then added any other costs. He was saving over £300 per month by living with us, so he wasnít being ripped off, indeed had we booted him out we could have rented his room and made an additional £250. Once he realised that he was better off here he appreciated the extra £300 in his pocket a little more.

    Hope you manage to come to some agreement with your mum, and good luck with the degree
    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 19th Oct 19, 9:09 AM
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    What happens next year, when you hopefully move on to university and possibly move out into uni halls or a student shared rental? Will your Mum be financially self sufficient? Has she thought ahead to balance her own budget when living alone?

    From your posts it seems that she is relying on the money she gets from you. Maybe your Mum also needs to do some budgeting!
    • Zero Sum
    • By Zero Sum 19th Oct 19, 5:51 PM
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    A very basic idea of what bills there are for the household might be useful Mica, ask your mum if there are any others.

    Food etc ( to include toiletries/cleaning items or calculate these separately)
    Gas/electric
    Water rates ( if metered there will be more water used by 2 of you than if mum was there alone)
    Rent/Mortgage
    Land line phone and broadband
    Contents insurance


    If your mum is on a low income it might be that she is really worried about keeping a roof over both your heads. At your age she will have 'lost' the various benefits that might have been available to her when you were younger.

    And an important one, Council Tax. if your mum lived alone she would get a 25% discount. If she's having to pay the full amount, that might be a struggle.
    Originally posted by Purbeck
    You can still get the 25% as one is a student on low income.
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    You can still get the 25% as one is a student on low income.
    Originally posted by Zero Sum
    Quite possibly thanks Zero Sum. Info here
    https://www.gov.uk/council-tax/discounts-for-full-time-students
    • Ms Chocaholic
    • By Ms Chocaholic 19th Oct 19, 6:06 PM
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    Does your mum work? Does she receive the right amount of benefits she should receive?

    Could you sit down with her and approach it from a, I think we are struggling start to the discussion. From there get a piece of paper and note down all the outgoings (and incomings if she will tell you). Check https://www.entitledto.co.uk/ to ensure she is getting all the benefits she should be and take it from there. Try to take a practical view to the discussion in terms of figures rather than, you put the tumble dryer on too much type of conversation and see how it goes.
    Last edited by Ms Chocaholic; 19-10-2019 at 6:34 PM.
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    • duchy
    • By duchy 19th Oct 19, 6:43 PM
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    When I attempt to buy my own food, it's apparently "inconsiderate" as I'm not buying for the both of us lmao
    Originally posted by Mica98
    Well if she bought food just for her , would that be inconsiderate too?
    Ultimately working only part time is your choice, no one is forcing you to stay in education .
    Many adults study with the OU or at traditional universities and also work as they donít have the option to do otherwise as they need to pay market rate rent .
    Is it possible your Mum now feels that as an adult (you donít mention your age) essentially house sharing with her now she should no longer be financially supporting your choices ?
    It honestly doesnít sound a bad deal and one youíd struggle to find in a non family house share. (Of course in a non family house share if every conversation about bills turned into a row youíd soon find yourself out on your ear !)
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    • duchy
    • By duchy 19th Oct 19, 6:46 PM
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    Does your mum work? Does she receive the right amount of benefits she should receive?

    Could you sit down with her and approach it from a, I think we are struggling start to the discussion. From there get a piece of paper and note down all the outgoings (and incomings if she will tell you). Check https://www.entitledto.co.uk/ to ensure she is getting all the benefits she should be and take it from there. Try to take a practical view to the discussion in terms of figures rather than, you put the tumble dryer on too much type of conversation and see how it goes.
    Originally posted by Ms Chocaholic
    Big assumption that the Mum is on benefits.
    I know full time students are exempt from Council tax , I donít think part time students are so is that something also coming from the bank of Mum? It may very well be the OP just doesnít realise how much sheís actually costing her Mum each month.
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    • Mrs_Ryan
    • By Mrs_Ryan 19th Oct 19, 7:44 PM
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    It is possible to get a student loan when studying with the OU http://www.open.ac.uk/courses/fees-and-funding#funding-options-tab.
    However the course you are undertaking may mean that you are not eligible.
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    Originally posted by dreaming
    You can only get a maintainance loan if you have significant disabilities which mean you cannot attend a campus uni. I have one and it’s very very hard, almost impossible to get. It is possible also to get a grant but only if you live in Wales. Student loans are readily available for fees only but they are paid directly to the university, the student doesn’t see a penny. Also student reduction for council tax would be available to the OP as they’re doing 120 credits.
    Last edited by Mrs_Ryan; 19-10-2019 at 7:51 PM.
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    • diggingdude
    • By diggingdude 19th Oct 19, 8:35 PM
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    Can mum cope if you move out, because that's what you really need to be doing? Not sure which part of the black country you are in but some areas have cheap house shares. Have a look if you can save money by moving, even if it's costing you the same/a little bit more it may be worth it for your sanity (and potentially your mother's).

    How much do you reckon it's costing mum to run the house without you?
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