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    • benten69
    • By benten69 29th Aug 16, 8:59 AM
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    Do you tip in restaurants?
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    Do you tip in restaurants? 29th Aug 16 at 8:59 AM
    Wasn't sure if this was the right place to put this, so admin, please move if needed.

    Do you guys (and girls) tip when you go for a meal out? Personally I hate the idea, and it's even worse when you've got the waiter standing next to you as you select "No" on the card machine.

    However, I always say that I don't get tips for doing anything extra and providing good levels of service in my job, so why should I pay others extra for a basic service their employers should be paying them for. In my previous role I saved the company 20,000 a day in penalties by delivering the project on time (a week early in fact), but I didn't get anything extra for it, because quite simply, it was my job.

    Hence, I don't agree with tipping. They are doing a job & getting their hourly rate, so why do I need to subsidize it? Tesco don't tell me to pay extra if I go to a till vs going to the self checkout.

    However, if there is a large group of us and say the bill comes out to 18 each, we'll all chuck in 20 and let the waiter / waitress keep the change. That's the only scenario it works in for me, as it saves everyone the hassle of finding change, waiting to get their change, etc.

    What are peoples thoughts?
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    • ringo_24601
    • By ringo_24601 15th Sep 16, 1:44 PM
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    Tipping doesn't really live up to its name.

    I'll tend to tip more at cheaper places, than expensive. If the expensive places can't pay their staff well, then the management need to take less of a cut.

    I got back from a cruise 2 weeks ago, where they expected a $12.95 a day, per person in the cabin (room). Yup, they wanted an automatic tip of 39 a day for a family of 4, just to be on holiday on the ship.
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    • mickeymouse303
    • By mickeymouse303 20th Sep 16, 11:29 AM
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    It depends on where I go to be honest. Sometimes I feel really patronising if I leave a tip but other times I'll feel rude if I don't!
    • MKonrad
    • By MKonrad 20th Sep 16, 12:20 PM
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    It really depends on many things - service, food, etc. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I do prefer to pay a fair price instead, however.
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    • Suman Verma
    • By Suman Verma 20th Sep 16, 12:35 PM
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    Yes, I do but only when I like the food. If I am happy with the food then I love to give tip as a gesture of my happy mood and satisfied belly.
    • osborne88
    • By osborne88 22nd Sep 16, 2:36 PM
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    I don't tend to tip, I've never particular agreed with the concept. We've got into a culture were the customer is expected to directly pay the staff the bonus that should surely be in their salary!
    I do however tip if I've received an above average service, but not for someone doing the standard job.
    • Carl31
    • By Carl31 23rd Sep 16, 4:25 PM
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    tipping is an old US custom, the idea being that waiting staff earned their income by providing a good service, this was reflected in their salary paid, and the price charged for the food by the restaurant. Effectively, the majority of the staffs wage came directly from the customer

    we have minimum wage here, and the pricing structure of the restaurant isn't set up the same way, hence its not relevant, but we seemed to have adopted it anyway

    The other thing is, anything given as tips has to be declared as income, so the waiting staff will be taxed on it
    • anotheruser
    • By anotheruser 23rd Sep 16, 5:05 PM
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    And I don't like those that add it to reciepts automatically.

    I don't get tipped in my job, which isn't particularly high paying - so that's not the "excuse".
    • 20aday
    • By 20aday 23rd Sep 16, 10:07 PM
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    Only if I feel the service/food was good enough otherwise no.

    And if I've seen on MSE or elsewhere companies which keep the tips rather than sharing them out with their employees then it's a MASSIVE no no.
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    • Stompa
    • By Stompa 24th Sep 16, 6:17 PM
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    I have never tipped in my life, and never will. It's a ludicrous custom.
    • glider3560
    • By glider3560 24th Sep 16, 8:00 PM
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    No, I don't tip. I expect service to be carried out correctly and to a high standard, without having to bribe my way to achieve that. In addition, why are certain low wage occupations "tippable" and others not?

    I was recently out for a group dinner in Greece with one American, during a business trip. The bill came to 143. None of the Europeans left a tip. The American was incensed. He said the tip must be at least 15%, so a minimum of 21. No-one obliged. In the end, he left about 16 in loose change, incredibly apologetically to the waitress. She couldn't stop smiling, as the Greeks don't expect any tip to be left.

    Just shows the differences in culture.

    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 24th Sep 16, 8:03 PM
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    One of the issues I've seen when asking this question is that everybody's view on what a restaurant is is different.

    Some people here think that eating at a Wetherspoons once a year is a major treat (I would), while others think 2 visits to the Ivy each year is "normal".

    I'm sure tipping 'etiquette' at a posh place, or a celebrity chef restaurant you've had to book 2 months in advance for .... is different to the tipping etiquette in the local grubby indian restaurant in the back street, or lunch at Wetherspoons.

    In cheap/grubby places you don't get "service".... you get a menu, order the food, it comes. Posher places have a thing called "service" - I've seen it on the telly when that chef with a foreign name took some kids in to teach them the restaurant trade. There's stuff they have to do re drinks, timings, how/what to offer at different points, etc. That's "service" that you don't get when you walk into a Wetherspoons, order a dinner at the bar and it arrives at your table 10 minutes later.
    • Oddjob
    • By Oddjob 26th Sep 16, 12:13 AM
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    You could ask the same question about tipping at hairdressers too.
    When I go, I have the owner do my hair. I have never tipped them, I am paying for the service they are giving me by giving them the price they are asking.
    I don't tend to tip in restaurants either, although I might round the bill up. Like others have said, the person should be paid by their employers to do the job, if they did an exceptional job, I would tip them as a thank you. They should do a good job as a norm and shouldn't need to be tipped for just doing their job.
    • AndyBSG
    • By AndyBSG 27th Sep 16, 1:20 PM
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    I generally tip around 10% based on service received.

    Table staff are generally paid minimum wage, work unsociable hours and are on their feet a lot, often having to deal with complaints about the food that they haven't actually cooked so if they give me good service then they deserve it IMO.

    Also, from a purely selfish point of view, it makes me feel good to give someone who deserves it a good tip.

    I always try to tip in cash where possible. So, even if i'm paying the bill by card, i'll generally leave the tip in cash after paying given some restaurants deplorable practice of skimming charges from staff for tips made by card.
    • glider3560
    • By glider3560 27th Sep 16, 5:56 PM
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    Table staff are generally paid minimum wage, work unsociable hours and are on their feet a lot, often having to deal with complaints about the food that they haven't actually cooked so if they give me good service then they deserve it IMO.
    Originally posted by AndyBSG
    Do you also tip call centre workers (customer service, not sales people)? They are often on minimum wage, with no commission and have to work unsociable hours, plus they get a torrent of abuse from customers.

    • AndyBSG
    • By AndyBSG 28th Sep 16, 9:59 AM
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    Do you also tip call centre workers (customer service, not sales people)? They are often on minimum wage, with no commission and have to work unsociable hours, plus they get a torrent of abuse from customers.
    Originally posted by glider3560
    Exactly how would I tip someone on the other end of a phone?

    That said, my attitude to tipping isn't just restricted to restaurant staff if that's what you're getting at.

    As a rule i'll generally tip takeaway delivery staff a quid or so, I also tip removal or delivery men at my discretion(obviously not someone just delivering a parcel but if they were delivering something that took a lot of manual effort such as a bed to go up a flight of stairs, etc)

    At Christmas my cleaner and postman also get a tip off of me.

    No, i'm not rolling in money by any means but after getting made redundant roughly a decade ago and finding myself on the breadline for a couple of years, living in little more than a squat and carrying out pretty much every low paid, soul destroying menial job I could find just to make ends meet I know what it's like.

    For me a fiver here or there makes little or no difference to my standard of living but to someone in one of those sort of jobs every few quid can make a difference.
    • d70cw6
    • By d70cw6 28th Sep 16, 2:39 PM
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    God no, never tip. !!!! those guys.
    • rhysadams
    • By rhysadams 29th Sep 16, 3:12 PM
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    Depends on the place, I hate it when you have to go to the bar, order food and then when it comes to pay it asks for gratuity.

    However I do tend to tip depending on the service.

    OCD insists I round it up to the nearest 1 though
    • MataNui
    • By MataNui 3rd Oct 16, 5:22 PM
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    On holiday (normally one of the Greek islands) then usually. About 10 - 15% with rounding (or whatever change/lower denominations i have on me). I do this because i find the service and food is generally excellent.

    In the UK i very rarely tip. In fact havent in the past 12 months at least. The food (even in the expensive places locally) is at best mediocre and the service is typically god awful.

    I guess its a value thing with me. In Greece i pay not a lot and get great food and great service. I feel its worth more than my bill. In the UK its expensive but poor quality and i feel its not worth whats on the bill in the first place.
    • kmjamal
    • By kmjamal 4th Oct 16, 10:40 AM
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    In my opinion one should tip because waiters do not get paid as what you are getting paid in a job (say 6000) But what waiters are getting paid? Its not as high as you are paid. Its everyone opinion if they get good service they tip if not they walkout without the tip.
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    • jengraham69
    • By jengraham69 4th Oct 16, 6:04 PM
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    Yes if I feel it was worth tipping for.
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