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    • MSE Jenny
    • By MSE Jenny 4th May 12, 12:14 PM
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    MSE Jenny
    MSE TicketySplit app discussion
    • #1
    • 4th May 12, 12:14 PM
    MSE TicketySplit app discussion 4th May 12 at 12:14 PM




    Hi all, we've built a new TicketySplit app and mobile site. These free tools quickly find which station to split tickets at to save for UK train journeys.


    It would be fantastic if you could ...

    a) let us know what you think and
    b) report any bugs

    If you have any problems, letting us know what mobile phone you are using would be a huge help.


    TicketySplit mobile site
    (Please bookmark on your phone - this is not an app)


    Thanks guys

    Jenny

    Last edited by MSE Jenny; 08-05-2012 at 8:59 PM.
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  • matth1j
    Just one minor comment - the colour combination of black text on dark green background (as shown in One-Eye's screenshot above) is quite hard to read on my laptop.

    Also, is there going to be a version for non-mobile users, or should we just use the mobile site (which I did)?

    It found my Reading/Bath commute split at Didcot ok.
  • Former MSE Adam
    Hi matth1j,

    Thanks for the feedback; I've adjusted the font colour to improve readability.

    Just use the mobile version - we've built it to render on as many browsers as possible.

    Thanks,
    MSE Adam
    • dzug1
    • By dzug1 9th May 12, 9:41 AM
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    dzug1
    One minor niggle - and it may be a feature rather than a fault - is that I can only look up tickets from now (well the current hour so 0900 actually) until 2359 tonight

    For tomorrow I have to assume things are the same as today. OK normally in the week, but not reliable at weekends.
    • pwharley
    • By pwharley 9th May 12, 11:14 AM
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    pwharley
    I support badgeraudio with a request for station Three Letter Codes (TLCs) to be accepted (in addition to the full name).

    Anything that reduces the amount of typing would be welcome.

    A great development BTW. Look forward to an Android app...
  • Former MSE Adam
    To view the app on Android/any smart phone, simply go to the URL:

    http://splitticket.moneysavingexpert.com

    Thanks,
    MSE Adam
    • flexiblefish
    • By flexiblefish 9th May 12, 1:04 PM
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    flexiblefish
    Could do with multiple splits.

    I have been splitting a long time and I find it great for savings. I am very pleased that there is no an app to "help" with splitting. I know it is early days, and I look forward to it doing returns and advances. I think it will be an excellent tool which I would certainly pay for to download to my Android (hint hint ). ..........However it should only be a guidline. I just tried it out to see what I could come up with for a single from Aberdeen to York 118.50 standard, suggests splitting in Edinburgh saving 13.80 (104.70). Thats great. However spliting the split (ie Aberdeen to Edinburgh, then Edinburgh to York) I get Aberdeen - Montrose - Edinburgh at 35.26, then Edinburgh - Newcastle -York at 60.80 making it a total of 96.06, by spliting the splits I saved 22.04. I tried splitting the splitted split (get me?) but there was nothing cheaper between Aberdeen-montrose, montrose-edinburgh, edinburgh-newcastle, newcastle-york.

    Please could you develop the app to take in to account multiple splits as this could help people save even more.

    Also I wanted to have a look at how it handles a journey from Aberdeen to London, but seeing that that journey can not be completed today, the app gave me no results and does not offer me the option for searching for the equivelent tomorrow morning. (BTW for those interested York-Newark-London is the suggested split saving 15.60 and Newcastle -Doncaster-London saves 32.20). Tomorrow function would be good as often although advance tickets are sometimes available until 1800, they very rarely are.

    A good start, and a useful helper, I am sure it will blossom in to something beautiful.
  • Trialia
    Oh that's nice. You make a money-saving app for the most expensive phone on the market first?

    I'm sick of using mobile sites; unless and until there's an Android app for this I won't be using it.
    Homosexual, Unitarian, young, British, female, disabled. Do you need more?
    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 9th May 12, 4:24 PM
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    wealdroam
    Oh that's nice. You make a money-saving app for the most expensive phone on the market first?

    I'm sick of using mobile sites; unless and until there's an Android app for this I won't be using it.
    Originally posted by Trialia
    Trialia, please remember that you do not have to use it.
    Also worth noting that no-one will mind if you don't use it.
  • twojags
    This feature sounds really useful but what about he millions of people who don't happen to have iPhones, Android Phones, or Mobiles? Is there any means of accessing the software from a plain old PC?
    Regards

    Mark
  • Former MSE Adam
    Mark,

    Simply access the web app using your normal desktop browser - http://splitticket.moneysavingexpert.com

    Thanks,
    Adam
    • thelawnet
    • By thelawnet 10th May 12, 2:19 AM
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    thelawnet
    It says Reading to Redhill is not a valid route. However it's served non-stop by the Reading-Gatwick train, every half-an-hour.
    • dzug1
    • By dzug1 10th May 12, 7:19 AM
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    dzug1
    It says Reading to Redhill is not a valid route. However it's served non-stop by the Reading-Gatwick train, every half-an-hour.
    Originally posted by thelawnet
    Works for me.

    Though those trains are not non stop - half of them stop at nearly every shack, the rest at main stations. No changes - yes. Non-stop - no
  • dmitry0211
    London to Edinburgh split 3-way
    Hi all,

    The first ticket I booked with East Coast was 23, all well and good. Had to order another one and the price has gone up to 54, not so happy.
    Here's what I've done:
    1. London to York -18
    2. York to Newcastle - 9
    3. Newcastle to Edinburgh 5
    For a total of 32, that's 22 saved, or 40% saving. Oh and its the same train, same time!

    Cheers
    • Jeff Bridges hair
    • By Jeff Bridges hair 19th May 12, 10:25 PM
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    Jeff Bridges hair
    Hi all,

    The first ticket I booked with East Coast was 23, all well and good. Had to order another one and the price has gone up to 54, not so happy.
    Here's what I've done:
    1. London to York -18
    2. York to Newcastle - 9
    3. Newcastle to Edinburgh 5
    For a total of 32, that's 22 saved, or 40% saving. Oh and its the same train, same time!

    Cheers
    Originally posted by dmitry0211
    Thats because not every ticket is 23 - they only have a select few at cheaper advance prices per train.

    But thats a good saving on your ticket
    "If you no longer go for a gap, you are no longer a racing driver" - Ayrton Senna
  • Trialia
    Trialia, please remember that you do not have to use it.
    Also worth noting that no-one will mind if you don't use it.
    Originally posted by wealdroam
    Obviously, since - hey! - I can't actually use the app. I'm not rich enough to own an iPhone, and I bet most of the people on this site aren't either, so it's a bit much to plan your future-app strategy on the success of one that quite a lot of your demographic won't own.

    Individually, probably not. But I bet there are plenty of people thinking along the same lines who either don't want to voice it or don't have the nerve, and if my little post can stand for those people, then that's fine by me.
    Homosexual, Unitarian, young, British, female, disabled. Do you need more?
    • dzug1
    • By dzug1 22nd May 12, 7:51 AM
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    dzug1
    Obviously, since - hey! - I can't actually use the app. I'm not rich enough to own an iPhone, and I bet most of the people on this site aren't either, so it's a bit much to plan your future-app strategy on the success of one that quite a lot of your demographic won't own.

    Individually, probably not. But I bet there are plenty of people thinking along the same lines who either don't want to voice it or don't have the nerve, and if my little post can stand for those people, then that's fine by me.
    Originally posted by Trialia

    If you've got a PC you CAN use the app - as has been stated here 3 or 4 times.

    There - I've said it again. Let's hope that some will read it and take note rather than whinging that they can't.
    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 22nd May 12, 11:31 AM
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    wealdroam
    If you've got a PC you CAN use the app - as has been stated here 3 or 4 times.

    There - I've said it again. Let's hope that some will read it and take note rather than whinging that they can't.
    Originally posted by dzug1
    But poor Trialia is sick of using mobile sites...
    I'm sick of using mobile sites; unless and until there's an Android app for this I won't be using it.
    Originally posted by Trialia
    There is no way to help some people.
    • blanik
    • By blanik 30th May 12, 9:43 AM
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    blanik
    Missing Station
    Hi,

    Tried to do a search from Hatfield(herts) to Hoxton.

    Hoxton not found - I presume because it is London Overground.

    However I can buy a rail ticket from East Coast Trains. The ticket is marked NOT VIA LONDON ( the interchange is Highbury and Islington - so presumably valid as this is not a london terminus ).

    There is a possible split saving by doing Hatfield -> Hadley Wood -> Hoxton

    More Complicated Saving possible.

    There are also Oyster PAYG fares from Hadley Wood to Hoxton which are cheaper than the train fares - using the same trains! However you would need to get off the train and swipe your Oyster card at Hadley Wood so not strictly split ticketing.
    Last edited by blanik; 30-05-2012 at 11:29 AM.
  • Funkyrobot
    Good idea unfortunately flawed
    As a Conductor who shares how to beat the system there is a few inaccuracies, for example only split Advance tickets if it's changing from 1 train to another, if it's an acknowledged connectin train (National Rail website tells what is minimum connection time at each station) therefore if connection is missed by delayed train Advance fare is accepted on next service albeit minus a reserved seat.having for example 2 Advance tickets for 1 journey, 1 passenger, 1 train ride regardless of whether the train stops there is a breach of Advance rules which require the passenger to start and end their journey at specified stations on specified timed train. Splitting other fares are ok as long as its not beating a time restriction, example a peak ticket for 2 stops up the line then off peak when say its after 9am. Train operators have responsibility to price specific regions and the lack of overlap particularly at peak time phenomenal, for example 2 passengers used to travel to same destination at peak, his colleague joined 20 mins down the line and the same restrictions on his ticket was 40 cheaper, often happens it there's 2 possible routes to your destination and your midway between 2 interchanges for connections. Check if the stop before or after is proportionately priced i.e not 40 less for 5 miles less journey. Peak fares of a journey over 50 miles are offered as full opens valid for 1 calendar month so carry the highest premium, under that mileage as day sgl/rtn or off peak day sgl/rtn. This is the basis of saving money splitting tickets, converting your full open tickets to open DAY sgl/rtn which are lower priced due to only valid for a day and non refundable once part used, full open an unused return portion can be refunded. Also look into split tickets using Rover fares (West Midlands Rover, Derbyshire Wayfarer etc) can be cheaper as often part subsidised by local Councils, less so since budget cuts, and often allow OAP bus pass to 50% discount it without rail card some other railcard can discount them too, most Rovers allow travel on Buses and Trams too around relevant Rover area, I could go on. Hope it's helped anyway
    • ejlmcdonald
    • By ejlmcdonald 6th Jun 12, 8:10 PM
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    ejlmcdonald
    Hi,

    Journey for 2 adults and 2 kids with railcard.
    Used app to split Hooton (wirral) to Edinburgh, told me Preston.
    Then went to Trainline.
    Whole journey 90
    Split 44 preston to edinburgh +27 open return to preston =71
    Saving 19.
    Saving even better 29, on same time trains.

    Excellent, thanks.
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