Your browser isn't supported
It looks like you're using an old web browser. To get the most out of the site and to ensure guides display correctly, we suggest upgrading your browser now. Download the latest:

Welcome to the MSE Forums

We're home to a fantastic community of MoneySavers but anyone can post. Please exercise caution & report spam, illegal, offensive or libellous posts/messages: click "report" or email forumteam@. Skimlinks & other affiliated links are turned on

Search
  • FIRST POST
    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
    • 10,915Posts
    • 17,218Thanks
    worried jim
    Your Bangernomics successes
    • #1
    • 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
    Your Bangernomics successes 19th Feb 12 at 1:34 PM
    Hello my fellow cheapskates. After spending nearly three years running a car for as cheap as possible, mainly as I ran it throughout all but he darkest depths of winter on WVO/UVO (waste or used vegetable oil), in a Vauxhall Astra I have had to say good bye to the old girl as it is no longer economical to repair to get it through it’s MOT (which has now expired yesterday).

    Running my Vauxhall Astra on veg oil-
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1961265&highlight=worried+jim

    Being of limited budget but a growing fan of “Bangernomics” (old banger cars + economics) I have decided to catalogue my experiences of running a sub £1000 car and I would like you to share your experiences if you are doing the same, weather through tight-fisted choice, i.e.-
    -Why buy a new car when you can run one successfully for the equivalent of two new car finance payments.
    -Or like me because you have no choice.

    Now to begin with we need to agree on price constraints. I have gone in with a £1000 price limit even though I paid half this, if you disagree lets discuss reasons, I am all ears.

    Here is my set up-
    A Rover 600 2.0sli.
    12 months MOT
    No tax
    £495.

    4 Doors, Manual, Saloon, Petrol, Metallic Blue, MOT-02-2013. Honda engine, ABS, Alloy wheels, Folding rear seats, Lumbar support, Immobiliser, Passenger airbag, Rear armrest, Radio/Cassette, Rear headrests, Alloy wheels, 3x3 point rear seat belts, Alarm, Drivers airbag, Electric windows, Height adjustable drivers seat, Remote central locking,
    The mileage was approx 118,000, Cambelt changed @79,000, loads of history (not fsh though) all the old MOT certificates.

    The bad bits about the car are-

    Electric aerial doesn’t retract (can’t use a carwash)
    Drivers seat lumber is worn
    Paint is faded on roof and boot lid.
    Radio is missing a button and unable to pick up many stations
    Small cigarette burn in rear passenger seat
    Driver’s seat belt doesn’t retract
    Not sure if Air con is fully working (suspect needs a re gas)
    Wind noise at speed from top right of driver door
    Both wing mirrors are tatty (held together with tape and a nylon tie)

    The good bits-

    Drives very well
    All tyres have lots of tread
    All electrics work
    12 months MOT
    Goes like stink
    Better than the last car I had.


    So in a nutshell I have bought a car with a brand new MOT for the price of getting my existing Astra through it’s MOT just to face a similar if not larger bill for the same next year.
    Now there is nothing to suggest that in a years time I face the prospect of a large MOT repair bill and may have to start again with another car, hopefully not, and this is to document how far you can go with a banger.

    I have found an original Topgear review by Jeremy himself from 1993-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Lq92QTrBw

    I have had a good look around ebay and it is full of Rover parts should I need any- I currently have the wining bid on a Haynes manual so I can really get to know the car should I need to.

    I will be the first to admit that this is a gamble, no nice new car with no faults or warranty should any arise, hell, I’ve bought a car from a now defunct manufacture, how will this effect me? Now in my mind when I was a teenager in the early 90’s a banger was a Hillman Imp, Vauxhall Chevette or as in my case and my first car a Talbot Sunbeam. These were cars that if you wanted a radio (or a rear heated element on the rear screen) you had to fit one your self. Cold morning- fingers crossed, MOT time meant welding new sills. Now a banger today comes with power steering, ABS, electric windows, fuel injection and in some cases air con, so why spend £k’s?

    Top Gear guide to Buying a Banger with Quentin Wilson- From 1997
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUVmNCdf4tI&feature=related
    (You won’t be buying anything featured in this clip but it gives you the idea and you can see the difference between “old” and “modern” bangers.
    So by now you should be getting the jist of how to join in. Share you car and model any feature it may have and keep updating!

    The £495 beast-


    Tatty rear bumper-


    Poor paint condition on roof (with free seagull crap)


    Poor paint condition on boot lid-


    Tatty wing mirror-


    Missing radio button-
    Last edited by worried jim; 19-02-2012 at 2:32 PM.
Page 2
  • CompBunny
    When I knew I was getting rid of the Astra, this was one of the cars I was looking for initially(rarely come up).

    Cheap tax, Novas are starting to go up in value and it would run on veg oil no problems.

    My own sons 16 this year, the plan was to get it shipshape and for him to have it as his first car when he passed his test.
    Originally posted by scotsman4th
    Aah what a lovely idea It really is a wonderful first car and has a bit of character as well. OH and I had a Toyota Starlet as a freebie for a short time but it blew up, and we had started to miss driving the nova already I'm certainly not going to scrap it, I'd rather sell it on ebay for less to know that it will be kept running in some form Interesting to hear about the veg oil!
    GC2012: Nov £130.52/£125
    GC2011:Sept:£215
    Oct:£123.98Nov:£120Dec:£138Feb:£94.72

    Quit smoking 10am 17/02/11 - £4315 saved as of Nov'12

    Engaged to my best friend 08/2012

    • Rolandtheroadie
    • By Rolandtheroadie 20th Feb 12, 10:41 AM
    • 4,864 Posts
    • 4,251 Thanks
    Rolandtheroadie
    Probably surprise you what you may get on ebay, workmate has one as a stock car, think they're quite popular for it.
  • CompBunny
    Yeah I heard one of the 3door petrol models was popular as a stock car but didn't think the diesels were really sought after by anyone, I'm most likely wrong though!
    GC2012: Nov £130.52/£125
    GC2011:Sept:£215
    Oct:£123.98Nov:£120Dec:£138Feb:£94.72

    Quit smoking 10am 17/02/11 - £4315 saved as of Nov'12

    Engaged to my best friend 08/2012

    • Rolandtheroadie
    • By Rolandtheroadie 20th Feb 12, 12:16 PM
    • 4,864 Posts
    • 4,251 Thanks
    Rolandtheroadie
    They just throw other engines in them. My last banger, a 1.7d Corsa 3 door is now a stockie somewhere and I've another 5 door with sunroof one on the drive that'll probably end up as a donor (apparently the suspension on the corsa b and novas the same or at least interchangeable).
  • Notmyrealname
    -Why buy a new car when you can run one successfully for the equivalent of two new car finance payments.
    Originally posted by worried jim
    Because some of us have had enough of...

    The bad bits about the car are-

    Electric aerial doesn’t retract (can’t use a carwash)
    Drivers seat lumber is worn
    Paint is faded on roof and boot lid.
    Radio is missing a button and unable to pick up many stations
    Small cigarette burn in rear passenger seat
    Driver’s seat belt doesn’t retract
    Not sure if Air con is fully working (suspect needs a re gas)
    Wind noise at speed from top right of driver door
    Both wing mirrors are tatty (held together with tape and a nylon tie)
    ...especially when you're doing in excess of 17,000 miles a year. Riding around in an old nail may be OK when you're doing 20-30 mile journeys (I've done plenty of years of bangernomics myself) but it gets old real quick when you're regularly doing 200+ mile journeys. I'd rather spend £4-£5k on a one owner 3-4 year old ex-company car with full main dealer service history for the 80-90k on the clock, have it for 4-5 years riding around in comfort knowing it'll get me there every time and not need a drop of oil between services.
    Last edited by Notmyrealname; 20-02-2012 at 1:54 PM.
  • mikey72
    The 600 is as comfortable as a Mondeo, maybe more so.

    And by the time you add on all the bits you've had done, it must have cost £1000 a year or so.


    As to reliabilty our bangers have been fine, we've had a banger that's done the same mileage in the same time, and had only a couple of hundered quid spent on it in four years, plus the normal service items.
    I tend to drive whichever car we have that'll do the job, so it normally tends to be the smallest.
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 20th Feb 12, 3:41 PM
    • 6,466 Posts
    • 2,985 Thanks
    LeeUK
    Bargain motoring at it's best. Why spend loads of money on a new car just to have it scratched at the supermarket car pack. My current car is over 10 years old and I will run it until the end then I'll be buying a bangernomics.
    • bluebluecow
    • By bluebluecow 20th Feb 12, 5:32 PM
    • 145 Posts
    • 101 Thanks
    bluebluecow
    we are banger running at the mo, after my 03 meriva engine management went. Last 2 cars where a N reg Astra, £200 with years MOT, went through one with little bit of welding needed, nextdoor neighbour did it for crate of beer lol. Had for almost 2 yrs, only sold it becuase fuel tank was leaking sold this Jan for £80.
    We also had a s reg almeria, £350 with 8mths mot, scraped when MOT ran out this jan as needed new cat convertor, and cost more then car worth, got £160 for scrap for it.
    So bangers we are running at mo are £350 03 reg suziki swift yrs mot, brought from above neighbour lol
    and a £200 s reg renault scenic 6 mths mot on it
    • Mankysteve
    • By Mankysteve 20th Feb 12, 6:00 PM
    • 4,115 Posts
    • 2,926 Thanks
    Mankysteve
    52 Corsa C Sxi 1.2 50000miles £300 no MOT or TAX

    Needed new brakes pads, front disks and gear linkage tax and mot to put back on the road that was about £300ish

    No other faults and everything else works.

    Parkers car guide values it £1800

  • Weird Nev
    BMW 328i Touring.

    Not your usual Banger - But £700 after spotting it on ebay locally. It sold for £840, buyer didn't collect, I did!

    Now, this car makes a strong case for "MPG is not the be all and end all!"

    So, bought with 162,000 miles on it:
    Dual Zone Climate Control, half leatehr Sports interior, Electric everything, all working
    193Bhp 2.8 Straight Six
    Traction control and ABS
    Really nice to drive.
    Exceptionally comfortable on long journeys.

    I ran it for 17,000 miles averaging 30mpg, and the average cost per mile was 28p.

    However, I did do a bit of upkeep, New rear dampers, new brakes all round, it needed new brake lines doing at one point. Thing was, it was such a good car that I couldn't ignore little faults, which is where it failed on true "bangernomics". However, sourcing parts myself and doing work myself meant that I Kept my hand in with mechanics and enjoyed working on the car. It did 1000 mile tours of Scotlands and a 2,000 mile european road trip with no bother whatsoever.

    You can read my blog here:



    I like to think of it as Bangernomics with a touch of class and pace.
    Sold it last month for £700! Depreciation (but not cost) free motoring!
    Last edited by Weird Nev; 20-02-2012 at 9:45 PM.
  • mikey72
    ..........................Thing was, it was such a good car that I couldn't ignore little faults, which is where it failed on true "bangernomics"............
    Originally posted by Weird Nev
    That's were I fail as well.
    The one I just bought, I had to change the oil, oil and air filter, plugs, antifreeze, I couldn't just leave them, knowing they needed doing.
    I enoy it, even though the neighbours think I'm mad at my age, and it should be down the garage.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 20th Feb 12, 10:16 PM
    • 37,628 Posts
    • 23,268 Thanks
    getmore4less
    What sort of insurance are these "quality" bangers costing

    On the drive costs for 1 year, tax, insurance, MOT if you keep it can be significant part of the cost for a low mileage user.
  • Weird Nev
    Mine was £295 fully comprehensive a year for the BMW. Male, 30, Parked on Drive, 4 years NCB no accidents, claims or points. Guess I must be blessed.

    It really, genuinely, honestly was NOT an expensive car to run! It beats out just about anything with any depreciation to it at all! It's left fighting it out with veg oil burning non common rail diesels, and ex taxi cabs! I know which I'd rather drive 1,000 miles in!
    • zenmaster
    • By zenmaster 20th Feb 12, 10:57 PM
    • 3,052 Posts
    • 3,281 Thanks
    zenmaster
    2.0 V reg Volvo V40, just about 100k on the clock - £700. I immediately bought new tyres for it, so another £200.

    It's not perfect - the remote packed up after a few months so I have to lock/unlock manually and one of the rear split/fold seats doesn't.

    I've spent about another £500 on servicing/MOT (including £140 for one switch which, had I known, I could probably have picked up from the breakers for a fiver). Oh - and another tyre when one of mine went "pop".

    I've had it for about 3 years and done 40k+ miles.

    I can honestly say it's one of the best cars I've ever had. Looks like a posh motor, feels like a posh motor and drives like a posh motor.

    I was intending to keep it another year but someone ran into the back of me just before Christmas and now the boot won't open. It's just one flaw too far as it's a pain to get the golf clubs in and out through the passenger door.

    Still, the insurance company gave me £1000 and let me keep the car so I shall probably chop it in just before the MOT runs out or send it to the auctions.

    I'll be sorry to see it go and will certainly try to find another similar.
    Last edited by zenmaster; 20-02-2012 at 11:00 PM.
  • mikey72
    What sort of insurance are these "quality" bangers costing

    On the drive costs for 1 year, tax, insurance, MOT if you keep it can be significant part of the cost for a low mileage user.
    Originally posted by getmore4less
    Same for any car though.

    Insurance for mine was about £150. Tax was £130.
    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 21st Feb 12, 7:20 AM
    • 10,915 Posts
    • 17,218 Thanks
    worried jim
    BMW 328i Touring.

    Not your usual Banger - But £700 after spotting it on ebay locally. It sold for £840, buyer didn't collect, I did!

    Now, this car makes a strong case for "MPG is not the be all and end all!"

    So, bought with 162,000 miles on it:
    Dual Zone Climate Control, half leatehr Sports interior, Electric everything, all working
    193Bhp 2.8 Straight Six
    Traction control and ABS
    Really nice to drive.
    Exceptionally comfortable on long journeys.

    I ran it for 17,000 miles averaging 30mpg, and the average cost per mile was 28p.

    However, I did do a bit of upkeep, New rear dampers, new brakes all round, it needed new brake lines doing at one point. Thing was, it was such a good car that I couldn't ignore little faults, which is where it failed on true "bangernomics". However, sourcing parts myself and doing work myself meant that I Kept my hand in with mechanics and enjoyed working on the car. It did 1000 mile tours of Scotlands and a 2,000 mile european road trip with no bother whatsoever.

    You can read my blog here:



    I like to think of it as Bangernomics with a touch of class and pace.
    Sold it last month for £700! Depreciation (but not cost) free motoring!
    Originally posted by Weird Nev
    Great blog Nev!
    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 21st Feb 12, 4:40 PM
    • 10,915 Posts
    • 17,218 Thanks
    worried jim
    Have just had an email from the scrappie around the corner-

    "Thank you for your enquiry about scraping your car ,at present we are paying one hundred and forty pounds a tonne,we would require the v five documents,an average car will give about one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty pounds."

    This is the best offer I have had so I will drive the astra down at the weekend. I also got a Haynes manual for £1.75 of ebay yesterday.
    Last edited by worried jim; 21-02-2012 at 4:44 PM.
  • Lindopski
    bangernomical
    Rover 420 SDI (1999) S-Reg

    Cost me £350 about 4 years ago
    Its done 157k and never fails to start, the only major bits to go are a piece of exhaust some small weld on the front outriggers and the battery - the rest is wear and tear stuff - brakes,tyres etc.

    It has been abused mercilessly and I have just done my first oil change on it since I got it 4 years ago - and its been doing about 18k a year.
    It was a cat-D right off that had been put back on the road when I got it so hardly well maintained then.
    Typical rover as the trim all falls off but other than that I know the car will not let me down.
    I couldn't walk in Jan due to a bad attack of gout and left the car in a side street in the frost for over two weeks. I went to it on the Sunday before going back to work when it was about -6 outside and it started on the first go.
    Its getting a new cambelt soon as a suprise gift and will get a proper service now
    its deserved it.

    Second best car is my old Citroen Xantia diesel (aka the worlds most comfy'est car) to be honest it felt more like a ship floating down the road on the big settee seats - another !!!!!! that would never stop going - only thing that scared me on it was the creaky suspension as its all hydro-god-knows-what so I got rid and got the Rover.
  • mikey72
    Have just had an email from the scrappie around the corner-

    "Thank you for your enquiry about scraping your car ,at present we are paying one hundred and forty pounds a tonne,we would require the v five documents,an average car will give about one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty pounds."

    This is the best offer I have had so I will drive the astra down at the weekend. I also got a Haynes manual for £1.75 of ebay yesterday.
    Originally posted by worried jim

    Have you had a quote from cartakeback.com?
    They were the best for me.
    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 22nd Feb 12, 5:22 PM
    • 10,915 Posts
    • 17,218 Thanks
    worried jim
    They have offered me £140 for collection. If I take it there it is £165 but it is £20 miles away. My local one is a 5 minute walk away, I didn't consider it first as it is not a car dismantlers but a true scrap metal yard (old skips, machinery etc). I drove past the other night and had a look through the fence and saw an email address for them on their enviromental details sign, sent of a message and hey presto. So for convience it will go there on Saturday morning- may stick some wmo in to see how it goes.
Welcome to our new Forum!

Our aim is to save you money quickly and easily. We hope you like it!

Forum Team Contact us

Live Stats

318Posts Today

4,366Users online

Martin's Twitter