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    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 20th Oct 19, 12:23 PM
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    Missed WS deadline N24 received
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    • 20th Oct 19, 12:23 PM
    Missed WS deadline N24 received 20th Oct 19 at 12:23 PM
    Hi Guys.I was just after some advice on here regarding an ongoing issue I have with Gladstones/UKCPM.Back in Dec 2107 I received 2 PCN invoices from UKCPM on my windscreen for parking outside of a marked bay on the estate where I live.We were not issued a permit as we were told we did not need one when signing our Tenancy agreement,which by the way mentions nothing about parking and parking restrictions at all.Well , cutting a long story short I ignored all following correspondence until I got a court summons from Northampron County Court saying I am being taken to court by Gladstones for 2 alleged breaches of parking on 2 separate occasions.At this point I responded to the directions questionnaire within the specified time frame and submitted it back to Northampton County Court with my defence statement.I also sent a copy of these to Gladstones.My case was due to be heard tomorrow 21 Oct at 10am but yesterday 19 Oct I received a N24 letter saying the claimant is debarred from defending the claim , the case due to be heard on 21 Oct be vacated and no order for costs. I am confused as to what this means. The form is titled 'General Form of Judgement or Order' basically saying that I didn't submit any evidence 14 days before the case was due to be heard. I thought when I submitted my defence with the directions questionnaire this would be sufficient enough.
    I have just come out of a bout of anxiety and depression for which I am taking medication so may have missed the deadline but was wondering if any of you good people had any advice on where I turn next?
    I am currently in an IVA for past debt which I am now dealing with as well. I also have another 2 court dates comkng up for the exact same reasons as stated above one on 11 Nov and one in Jan so would really appreciate some help if possible.
    Thank you all in advance
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    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 20th Oct 19, 12:26 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 12:26 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 12:26 PM
    Sorry I meant to put in there that the defendant is debarred from defending the claim
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 20th Oct 19, 12:48 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 12:48 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 12:48 PM
    Essentially you have lost from what you have said.
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 20th Oct 19, 12:53 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 12:53 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 12:53 PM
    Okay.Any advice on if I can get this set aside and when to submit my WS for the future cases I have coming up?
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 20th Oct 19, 1:19 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 1:19 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 1:19 PM
    No you have no case.
    No less then 14 days before the hearing date unless the court orders otherwise
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 20th Oct 19, 1:41 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 1:41 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 1:41 PM
    Sorry I meant to put in there that the defendant is debarred from defending the claim
    Originally posted by lolaive
    Hi Guys.I was just after some advice on here regarding an ongoing issue I have with Gladstones/UKCPM.Back in Dec 2107 I received 2 PCN invoices from UKCPM on my windscreen for parking outside of a marked bay on the estate where I live.We were not issued a permit as we were told we did not need one when signing our Tenancy agreement,which by the way mentions nothing about parking and parking restrictions at all.Well , cutting a long story short I ignored all following correspondence until I got a court summons from Northampron County Court saying I am being taken to court by Gladstones for 2 alleged breaches of parking on 2 separate occasions.At this point I responded to the directions questionnaire within the specified time frame and submitted it back to Northampton County Court with my defence statement.I also sent a copy of these to Gladstones.My case was due to be heard tomorrow 21 Oct at 10am but yesterday 19 Oct I received a N24 letter saying the claimant is debarred from defending the claim , the case due to be heard on 21 Oct be vacated and no order for costs. I am confused as to what this means. The form is titled 'General Form of Judgement or Order' basically saying that I didn't submit any evidence 14 days before the case was due to be heard. I thought when I submitted my defence with the directions questionnaire this would be sufficient enough.
    I have just come out of a bout of anxiety and depression for which I am taking medication so may have missed the deadline but was wondering if any of you good people had any advice on where I turn next?
    I am currently in an IVA for past debt which I am now dealing with as well. I also have another 2 court dates comkng up for the exact same reasons as stated above one on 11 Nov and one in Jan so would really appreciate some help if possible.
    Thank you all in advance
    Originally posted by lolaive
    Thanks for that.
    How do I know how much money I owe or how or when this all needs to be paid? The letter is very vague and mentions nothing about any of this.
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 20th Oct 19, 1:45 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 1:45 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 1:45 PM
    Post up a redacted copy
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 21st Oct 19, 11:50 PM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 11:50 PM
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    • 21st Oct 19, 11:50 PM
    Yes we need to see it - I wonder if the claimant also failed to file anything?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 22nd Oct 19, 11:53 AM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 11:53 AM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 11:53 AM
    Indeed

    You also need to please get your time line straight, and please please please use paragraphs. Long blocks of text dont help anyone.

    The usual timeline - as given in the NEWBIES THREAD, post TWO - is:
    1) You get a N1 claim form through, which you acknowledge online
    2) YOu file a defence
    3) Claimant says if they want to continue; they say yes meaning
    4) You THEN get a directions questionnaire wher you give your local court
    5) The CCBC allocates your claim to your local court
    6) Your local court sets a hearing date -> and in THIS LETTER they ALSO tell you when you need to file your WS and evidence by.

    It sounds like you did not read your hearing date letter properly, nor research.

    However as pointed out - its odd to see nothing about a judgement amount. If you cant defend a claim they would usually just award the entire amount the claimant asked for, but maybe your defence persuaded the court the claimant hadnt suffciiently stated their case? So we definitely need to see it
    Host it at an EXTERNAL site
    Copy the link here but change HTTP to say HXXP. Dont make any other changes.
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 25th Oct 19, 4:09 PM
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    Missed WS deadline N24 received
    Hi,
    Sorry its taken a while , I have been away with work.

    Here's the link to the defence

    Hi,

    Here's the link to the file:

    hxxps://1drv.ms/w/s!AjXDPvGPs8TcgRY5lcvio0OIqyn1

    Shared from Word for Android
    https://office.com/getwordhared from Word for Android
    https://office.com/getword
    Last edited by lolaive; 25-10-2019 at 4:47 PM. Reason: Advised
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 25th Oct 19, 4:19 PM
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    OK that defence gives your full real name so you should edit the link & redact personal details.

    What we need to see is this letter you talk about:
    yesterday 19 Oct I received a N24 letter saying the claimant is debarred from defending the claim , the case due to be heard on 21 Oct be vacated and no order for costs. I am confused as to what this means. The form is titled 'General Form of Judgement or Order' basically saying that I didn't submit any evidence 14 days before the case was due to be heard.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • 1505grandad
    • By 1505grandad 25th Oct 19, 5:08 PM
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    You have not redacted your name, ref.nos, etc. everything is visible.
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 25th Oct 19, 5:28 PM
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    https://i.postimg.cc/gjf1k0gN/20191025-172405.jpg
    Sorry.Hopefully this will suffice.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 25th Oct 19, 6:35 PM
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    As expected, you lost due to not filing any evidence or WS.

    They are free to enter a CCJ against you so you need to contact them to pay in full, sorry. If you pay in full (NOT instalments) within 30 days there will be no CCJ remaining on your file at all.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 25th Oct 19, 7:20 PM
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    Ok thanks for that. I have received a letter from the court some months back saying that they have received acknowledgement of my defence for which I submitted along with the directions questionnaire.As I am not really privvy to all this stuff I thought that would be enough.
    Also I am in an IVA at the moment and will be for the next 2 years and was wondering how this affects things if at all?
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 25th Oct 19, 7:22 PM
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    Surely I should get instructions from the court on how to make payment and a final amount of what is owed.
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 25th Oct 19, 7:25 PM
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    Also I am in an IVA at the moment and will be for the next 2 years and was wondering how this affects things if at all?
    Originally posted by lolaive
    The question you are now asking is well outside the scope of a parking tickets forum.

    There is a MSE board specifically for IVA issues:

    .
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 25th Oct 19, 7:26 PM
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    Ok and the rest?
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 25th Oct 19, 7:27 PM
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    Ok and the rest?
    Originally posted by lolaive
    I'm sorry, I only saw one question.
    .
    • lolaive
    • By lolaive 25th Oct 19, 7:51 PM
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    I will elaborate.If I received an acknowledgement of defence surely that means defence submitted , no?
    Also how will I know how much I need to pay and whether costs have been incurred and get instructions on this?
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